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Pilot to TSA: 'No Groping Me and No Naked Photos'

Discussion in 'General Topics' started by Rocky, Oct 18, 2010.

  1. Rocky Well-Known Member

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  2. jynxyjoe The Kickin' Chicken!

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    TSA

    Thousands
    Standing
    Around
  3. TopGunn Voted Off the Island

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    just follow the rules, save your job, 30 minutes of typing and my self 30 minutes of reading.
  4. esa17 Well-Known Member

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    I'm betting this is already on Snopes but I hope it's true. We never should have given up our liberties and it will take a great deal of civil disobedience to get them back.
  5. JumpWake Well-Known Member

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    He was following the established rules. You are allowed to opt-out of the image screening if you like, (which everyone should, but I digress). The IAH TSA went ballistic for no reason here it seems, and now the guys job is in jeopardy. They took his civil rights and flushed them there it seems, and good on him for standing up to them. Lots of people would fold after that much pressure on them.
  6. upup89 Well-Known Member

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    It sucks it came to that but the sad fact of the matter is there is sometimes no ryme or reason as to why TSA does some of the things it does. Everytime I take food in from outside security it irritates me so cadly that they make be put it on the belt. I just don't wanna X Ray anything 10 minutes before I eat it. It just can't be safe.
  7. Boris Badenov Put a stove on your foot

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    Paperz Please! Vy do you have ze problem if you have nossing to hide!?
  8. jynxyjoe The Kickin' Chicken!

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    Can we start this revolution already?
  9. surreal1221 Well-Known Member

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    Good on him.

    It's a real shame CREWPass hasn't exploded in access across the industry, would have saved this guy (and many more like him) this ridiculous headache.

    That said, my own personal thing is quite simple: If AIT is there, I'm declining. I'll take the secondary screening and be just as peaceful as I ever could. But they're not going to touch my body either. They can wand me during the standard secondary screening.

    If no AIT, I don't take off my shoes so if I beep more than twice, I request secondary screening so as to not keep the line backed up. Once again, they wand me, and I'm on my way.

    It's the smallest thing I can do. I'm going to work, not prison.

    I can hop on that plane naked and still kill people, so it's ridiculous any of us have to do the song and dance for the simple sake of appearence.

    The TSA lacks real HUMINT skills, so screw em'
  10. pilotmg1501 Well-Known Member

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    Heaven forbid any uniformed, badged pilot gain access to the cockpit and control of the aircraft...........




    CREW PASS NOW!!
  11. Rocky Well-Known Member

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    Exactly! Whether people like naked body scanners or not or TSA violating us or not, if people only take one thing from this story I hope it's this...That, agree with him or not, he felt like his civil liberties were being violated and he stood up and showed his backbone to the point that he will probably loose his job over it, where most other people, myself included, would have folded under the pressure. If we don't stand up and use our freedoms we will lose them. So well done to this model American.
  12. GaTechKid Well-Known Member

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    So is this guy suspended from work now or is he just going to try again next week and hope this scenario doesn't play out the same way?
  13. TallFlyer Well-Known Member

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    I don't really disagree with anything this guy has done, but it would be nice if he capitalized consistently and properly punctuate quotations.
  14. braunpilot What day is it?

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    On the actual website of the link. He does use proper punctuation.
  15. Mike H Well-Known Member

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    I prefer

    Tards
    Standing
    Around

    Seems more descriptive
  16. flyingmaniac Well-Known Member

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    Does TSA even know that most airliners have a crash axe in the cockpit, that can take out any pilot or damage any airplane?
  17. Okie_Pilot Super Senior Member

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    Congratulations, it looks like the TSA and the others have won you over. You didn't have to read this either.

    "We'll make it difficult so people like you will just give in."

    :yeahthat:

    :yeahthat: :clap:
  18. JamesD Well-Known Member

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    This is incomprehensible. I am hoping that he is only under some type of standard "paid leave of absence" that is company policy whenever anything happens.

    With that said if he looses his job over this then I would hope that others would cry foul in forms of petitions, letter writing etc... and certainly I would hope that his first item of business would be to get the ACLU on his side.

    He did absolutely nothing wrong and it gets me really PO'd hearing about this.

    In terms of legal help are if this guy is an AOPA member I would start there. They have aviation lawyers available to members. If not Google around for some.

    I think if he really looses his job over this there will be way too much outcry and support of him. He did nothing wrong and pilots are a close-knit brotherhood. I would be surprised if no one cared.
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    This might be the unpopular opinion around here, but its probably the most pragmatic.

    He elected to not go through screening, therefore he missed his commute, and got a missed trip. And he deserved the missed trip. Had that been the end of discussion, and he not aired all his dirty laundry ALL OVER the internet, with his companies name featured prominently in the discussion, he'd have the chance to go through the same TSA checkpoint next week, where EVERYONE knows his name and game. Of course will he ever go through the MEM checkpoint without secondary screening ever again? nope.

    Opt out of the neeked person peep-o-matic all you want, but the alternative has ALWAYS been a pat down. He had to have known that, and it seems like he wanted it to happen just to make a scene. I mean check out his e-mail address, He wanted whatever he will get out of this. What do I say, go through the security theater, however much it pains you, and go through the proper channels to get reform (crewpass) to happen. Congratulations Michael, you just fell on the sword for what? your 15 minutes and a pink slip.
  20. sr22driver Well-Known Member

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