Kalitta 727 FO

SJS = Shiny Jurrasic Syndrome? What do you think would be an appropriate starting salary for a CFI who jumped to the right seat of a 72?

Believe me, Im happy about having a job. Im just kind of shocked that flying big planes you can make so little. Its not just starting out pay. Their pay increases are less than inflation is. Which means that you actually take a paycut every year from your starting out pay if you take into account the current inflation rates this year (unlike AAL or Delta or Fedex).

IT seems to me that only CFI's will be applying for this job, not anyone with a decent amount of 727 experience.

Now this is just my opinion that pilots are paid to low in general. If you disagree then we will just have to agree to disagree.

There isn't anything shiny left on the 727's.

It is amazing you have quit flying already if you are in it just for the money.

The pay can always be better at any place you work. Kalitta isn't the best paying outline out there nor are they the worst. I bet you fly a lot more that 300-400 hours for that 45K as a CFI and put in a lot more hours out of the cockpit too.

Name another airline that buys commuting pilots hotels in base.

Very inexpensive and good health insurance.

And if you do your homeworkk you will find that:

Cappy FO's make less money for the first 5 years.
Amerijet FO's after 10 years are still paid less that a 1st year Kalitta FO
Evergreen pays FO's less on the 747
etc, etc

So has anybody got a call yet?

nope

Honestly a bump, but anybody heard back from them yet?

No I'm assuming they've already called people by now.

I haven't heard anything...

I just got the EEO form today..I must be at the bottom of the pile or something.

Resumes are still in review and calls should be going out soon.

What's upgrade time like?

I recieved a call yesterday. Debating what to do. Of it was 9-10 months ago I would have for sure taken it

Because of a current job? What are you doing now?

Yea current job with about two years or so til upgrade. I applied last year when I was looking at furlough from previous company

I hate to be "that guy," but what's the best guess at upgrade at Kalitta?

I didn't apply but I'm curious what competitive times are for the guys that got a response back? I was at a job fair about five years ago and chatted with the Kalitta rep, he was really friendly but said they wouldn't take anyone without 4000TT and 1000 jet for a 747 FO, how does this compare? I also have a friend that was hired at Amerijet into the 727 about 17 years ago, think he said he wasn't something like 3000TT... I just wonder how this one compares...

I am interested to see if anything has heard back yet. Would be a sweet job for sure. If I was at express or another company with a long upgrade I would have been all about it. I am just finished GS for Upgrade at C5 though, can't quit the PIC time.

Upgrade time has been running about 3-4 years and sometimes less depending on company need.

I had 5k+ with 4k+ turbine.

If I were to guess around 3000 TT with significant med to large jet time.

but you just never know