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Hero or zero? What say you....

Discussion in 'General Topics' started by rausda27, Mar 20, 2017.

  1. rausda27

    rausda27 Well-Known Member

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    Saw this today, seems like the inputs are pretty excessive but Ive never flown a 737...what say you 737 pilots?

     
  2. MikeOH58

    MikeOH58 Well-Known Member

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    Not a hero or a zero. Just a tool
     
  3. Derg

    Derg Naval Intelligence, MCRN Staff Member

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    That seems a little extreme. Now on the mad dog...
     
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  4. pullup

    pullup Homewrecker

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    Where are the gloves??


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  5. Cessnaflyer

    Cessnaflyer Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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    That's what I look like when I do the rowing machine at the gym!
     
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    bksslc Well-Known Member

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    Just playing devils advocate here, but maybe the winds/wind gusts were insane that day.
     
  7. Adler

    Adler How much cheese is too much cheese?

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    He likes dramatic control throws, and loud music.



    Maybe @CFI A&P can comment on his form.
     
  8. thevideographer

    thevideographer Well-Known Member

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    What on earth
     
  9. Cessnaflyer

    Cessnaflyer Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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    Oh god that mouth breather look.
     
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  10. NovemberEcho

    NovemberEcho Well-Known Member

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    Probably a standard landing on EWR 22L while the winds are 350@23G35 because tower doesn't like headwinds.
     
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  11. bimmerphile

    bimmerphile Open-Air Member

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    Gear down, smoke on

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  12. CFI A&P

    CFI A&P Well-Known Member

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    Although I have never met him, his is a friend of someone I know that flies in the same fashion, and another friend of mine did the instruction for his FAA rotorcraft-helicopter rating.

    As @Adler pointed out, he is boisterous with his control inputs and body language while flying. Some may even say a yoke pumper which is unnecessary for that airframe. Full aileron deflection in that XA41 can yield over 400 degrees per second. Rob Holland, Mike Goulian, Mélanie Astle and others fly so much smoother... Even Skip Stewart does impressive maneuvers with his modified S2Ss without looking like he is riding a bull inside the airplane.



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  13. Kingairer

    Kingairer Well-Known Member

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    Please don't make me fly that. Please
     
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    scooter2525 Very well Member

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    And from the other type.
     
  15. BigZ

    BigZ Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a big bird driver, yet
    However.. rumor has it, in Soviet Russia jerking the control column like that would cost you the annual bonus.
    I did that "just correcting the turbulence and gusts and stuff" dance too for the first hundred hrs or so, until my South African CFI said something along the "this $#&t is making me sick" lines and blocked my ailerons. I could pick the wing up with the rudder if it dropped, but for next however many flights the ailerons were blocked by him once on final regardless of the plane we flew. Hence I got into the habit of ignoring the small bumps and it appears the ride got better.
    I can attest to this on Van with xwinds up to 30kts and jets up to CJ2 and Ultra, no idea how the heavy iron is.
    Anyone else in this camp?
     
  16. sorrygottarunway

    sorrygottarunway Well-Known Member

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    THIS!!!!
     
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    Nark Well-Known Member

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    Arm chairing of course...
    Seems like a lot of excess movements
    It took a few approaches to learn: fly the bus like a helicopter, small inputs.
     
  18. pete2800

    pete2800 'Member?

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    Fixed.



    Holy mother of all over-controlling...

    I don't think my first OE flight in the 737 was that much of a crap-show. Scratch that, first V1 cut in the sim in the 737. What a wanker.

    I 100% guarantee that dude has never ridden a motorcycle. He'd be dead. Motorcycles and airplanes work on very much the same level. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. Eh, @milleR ?
     
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    milleR Well-Known Member

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    Truth.

    And fast hurts if you aren't smooth.

    Edit to add: there's an element of feel and understanding the machine and conditions that goes into smoothness. Maybe it's some combination of confidence, competence, training, experience, aptitude, lack of genetic defects, I don't know, "feel" is pretty hard to quantify. But every action causes a reaction and when you get on the backside of the "reaction curve" i.e. not predicting that reaction is when we get into the "over controlling" regime. Could be in a car, on a bike, in a plane, running a chainsaw, regardless, it's about predicting the reaction of the machine to your action that generates "smooth" in my opinion. Faster equipment requires better instinctive response and only experience and training gets us to that point.
     
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    pete2800 'Member?

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    Mechanical intelligence is definitely a thing. My father in law runs his own machine shop. Watching that man operate even a simple drill press is like watching someone play an instrument.
     
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