Do employers use flightaware to verify flights in logbooks?

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Yes, you are screwed.

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They do. If you think coming up with all of that P51 time was difficult, try figuring out what to erase! D'oh! :laff:

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What I heard from an old timer is that "you can't really get away with more than 10% of what your total time is, which doesn't really help you any, so don't bother."

That's not to say it isn't done.

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I've heard discussions pertaining to and actually been asked essentially how to Parker P-51 a logbook. I've heard comments ranging from taxing the aircraft around to leaving the country for a year and miraculously coming back with an extra 1000 hours to sitting in the jumpseat on an airliner and logging that time. I have no doubt that there are others.

What is really comes down to, to me, is that it's going to be pretty obvious (unless you're the next Buzz Aldrin) that if you put down 1000 hours of total flight time on an application, yet you only have 300, and you then get selected for an interview, that between the interview and the sim session it's going to be glaringly obvious that you don't have the experience that comes with 1000 hours. For this reason, I would agree that one could conceivably get away with pencil whipping an extra 10% of flight time in there, but for the little difference that would make, why bother?

As to the idea of using flight aware to verify flight times, I think that would highly depend upon the type of flight time that one was looking to verify. Any VFR flight training will not show up on flight aware, so that doesn't work. If one is looking to verify flight time at a previous 121 or 135 opertation, it is far easier to simply ask the previous company than to run the various tail #'s of aircraft that the applicant claims to have flown. Now yes, if in the previous 3 weeks to an interview an applicant claims to have flown 50 hours of cross country time in a twin, and one twin at that, that could easily be checked.

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I asked this on another thread and never saw the answer
Does experimental time count to TT?
I don't mean powered chutes, but would RV4 time for instance count?:dunno:

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Yes.

The only thing that doesn't count is part 103 ultralights.

Single seat, 254 lbs empty, 5 gal, 26 mph stall etc.

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I will fly vfr training flights and they will show up as 7 minute flights. If you leave a class c or d airport for vfr instance, your flight will show when radar picks up your transponder. If you fly to another airport for traffic pattern work and cancel services, your flight on flightaware "ends". So a 7 minute flight on flightaware was actually 2 hours

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VFR will only pop up when you pick up Flight Following, if the controller makes up a flight plan for you. If they just created a flight strip but no flight plan, it will not pop up.

RD

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That's why I would backup hard-copy logbooks with electronic ones that automatically do the calculations and breakdowns. I spent 10 hours converting my logbook to an electronic copy and can't tell you the number of simple math errors I found when I did a line-by-line audit of my logbook.

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If employers have such a concern that you may be padding your logbook that they would want to verify anything with anything in this environment they will just not hire you and move on to the other 50 applicants they have in the stack.

RV4 time definitely counts, its more of an airplane than many!

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Here is something else to think about. With the advent of flightaware, it would not be hard for someone to pad their logbook with time in an aircraft that has actually flown.

Track an aircraft, log the time. Not too difficult.

But the question is this: Why in the world would anyone do this?

For the life of me there is absolutely no good reason or motivation to falsify your times. Not even a job nor interview.

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They would only be able to look up IFR flights though...right? So if you don't file IFR then nothing shows up on record.

My thinking it would be pointless for them, unless they wanted to know how many times you've flown ifr.

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It's any flight that gets a squawk code.

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Not always.

Nice hair btw....

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From what i understand it's any flight that gets a "real" code...one that doesn't start with a 0, like you'd get from an approach facility for a short flight, or a code you get from center, i think that's the deal-io

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I recommend people just take care to ensure their flight times are 100% legit and as close to 100% accurate as possible. Then, there's no need to worry about what means, if any, a potential employer may use to validate the times in your logbook.

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I think it sucks if prospected employers actually verify log books. I now have to go back and remove my B-777 type and subsequent PIC time. And to think, I was this close to getting hired on at one of dem' top-notch Nigerian operations! Good thing I have a backup plan for employment over there... :yar:

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Again, not always.

Military and other public use flights are blocked, as are many civilian corporate operators who claim it's for "security" reasons (like not letting shareholders see how many trips to Aspen or Hawaii a company's jet makes).

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Bingo. That is the main reason a lot of corporate jets are blocked, which makes a spotters job difficult

RD

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If it saves corporate jet jobs who gives a ?

Why won't this ridiculous thread die?