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C90 horizontal stabilizer departs in flight.

Discussion in 'General Topics' started by Inverted, Jul 29, 2016.

  1. Inverted

    Inverted My captain doesn't have a degree, I'm scared....

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    So I had a guy call me up last week saying he needed spin recovery and upset training as a requirement for his job. When I asked him what he was doing he said "I'll tell you more in person." So I book him in the Super D to do what he wants and we conducted the flight a couple of days ago. When we sat down he told me that he was flying a King Air full of skydivers when he got slow, stalled and started to spin. The jumpers got out but he wasn't able to recover the spin until around 1,000 feet. When he landed he noticed the right horizontal stab was missing. I almost didn't believe the story until he showed me pics.

    Here is the NTSB prelim:
    http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief.aspx?ev_id=20160724X01920&key=

    I'll try to get pics of it missing the stab, it's pretty crazy.
     
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  2. SurferLucas

    SurferLucas Southern Gentleman

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  3. Roger Roger

    Roger Roger Navajo Whisperer

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    Honestly for a skydive airplane to still be that intact on landing is pretty good.
     
  4. Burrito

    Burrito I'll ask the stupid questions

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    Holy hell.
     
  5. NovemberEcho

    NovemberEcho Well-Known Member

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    Wonder if a chute or a jumper took it with them?
     
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  6. Grabo172

    Grabo172 Well-Known Member

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    Wow! Amazing he was able to recover!
     
  7. Inverted

    Inverted My captain doesn't have a degree, I'm scared....

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    That crossed my mind but jumpers exit on the opposite side.
     
  8. NovemberEcho

    NovemberEcho Well-Known Member

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    True but if he's in a spin that would put it on their side pretty quick. Pretty sure a jumper would have noticed doing that though.
     
  9. Finny

    Finny Well-Known Member

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    Jeez, I'm surprised he recovered as well!
     
  10. Tiptank

    Tiptank Well-Known Member

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    Man, way to get back on the horse! I may have needed a few days vacation after that event.
     
  11. T/O w/FSII

    T/O w/FSII Well-Known Member

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    Check this story out about a king air 200. I don't know if this makes me feel better or worse about flying the 350

    Video of the landing


    to Virginia from Arkansas when, at 27,000 feet, the left windshield shattered causing an immediate and rapid decompression. Given your useful consciousness at this altitude is measured in seconds, both pilots blacked out. (Fortunately, there were no
    passengers on board).

    Whether they initiated a rapid descent or lost control and ended up in a steep dive is not known as the two pilots have little recollection of the event both fading in and out of consciousness until shortly before landing.

    They took turns, unintentionally, of waking up and blacking out and fighting to regain control of the aircraft. One pilot stated "I remember thinking we'r e in a spin and seeing that the airspeed was pegged beyond indicated.
    I thought, wow, we're going too fast, reached up and pulled the power to idle, then blacked out again".

    Assume they were pretty much at terminal velocity headed straight down.

    At 13,000 feet, (give or take), they started fighting to pull the aircraft out of a dive.
    It took both of them.
    The stress on the airframe must have been unreal, as you will see.

    From that point, parts started leaving the aircraft until landing and they lost control of pitch.
    They went almost vertical again and it took both pilots pushing as hard as they could to get the aircraft to start descending.

    They regained some control around 7,000 feet and were close to cape where they diverted.

    It is fortunate that they did not have a tail stall as you will see, and I have no earthly idea how they controlled pitch.

    There is a God and sometimes he gets your attention to remind you how close we could all be to standing before him.
    There is no way this aircraft could have been flown and landed to a relatively uneventful landing and they walk away.
    I cannot explain it and I think you will see what I mean especially after viewing the empennage.

    According to the radar, they lost 20,000 feet in roughly a minute and a half.

    The aircraft is totaled, but again, they taxied to the ramp. Waited a few hours, and got a car and drove home.

    Fortunately, the windscreen did not come in completely, but still should have most likely been fatal at that altitude. [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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  12. exerauflyboy5

    exerauflyboy5 Well-Known Member

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    HOLY CHIT!!
     
  13. Itchy

    Itchy Well-Known Member

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    ^^^ IIRC, they dumped the cabin, which was entirely uncalled for...
     
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  14. Finny

    Finny Well-Known Member

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    And caused most of the problems. You want air pressure pushing back against that broken windscreen!
     
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    Itchy Well-Known Member

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    Helpful in staying conscious too!
     
  16. A Life Aloft

    A Life Aloft Well-Known Member

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    Damnation, what an experience! Look at the tail and the wings.... good grief. Helluva landing considering what they had endured physically and the issues with the plane. Wow.
     
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  17. gotWXdagain

    gotWXdagain Highly Visible Member

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    They intentionally dumped the cabin before they put on Oxygen?
     
  18. deadstick

    deadstick Well-Known Member

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    I wonder how many times somebody screws around on the descent after the jumpers depart. I'm not saying that particular pilot did, but what about all of the others? I believe the majority of airframe failures is a result of exceeding the negative load limit.

    As for that 200, that crew screwed that up before they started engines. That was a new >BB-1600 and had in the checklist what to do. Also, I know a guy who flies at CGI and said that plane flew out of there on a ferry permit.
     
  19. Finny

    Finny Well-Known Member

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    Yep...
     
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