Are these like GIA?

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Thanks Kell, you hit it on the nose as well. The, "wasting my time as a CFI" comment, was meant to be what you said. Its not wasting my time teaching, but wasting too much time on teaching, like spending longer than I may have to. I definately would like to hear what the others have to say about the subject.

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Well I don't feel it is worth it to buy 100 hours of multi time. First of all, it is a two pilot operation. I know you will learn a lot flying with another, but some of that time you aren't acting PIC. I have learned so much this past 7 months teaching people to fly, ie being the acting PIC. There is nothing you can do to replicate teaching besides by doing it.

I am a full time college student and have flown 250 hours in the past 7 months. Definitely not a lot but better than none. Of that 250, 60 have been in the seminole. I really wish sim time counted, because then I'd have around 250 more hours built (500 tt and 110 multi is where I'm at).

If your dead set on using papa's money, take a trip around the US by yourself in a high performance single. You will be flying in all sorts of airspace, weather, and be the acting PIC. That is one thing I wish I could do.

As for buidling multi time, there are only a few steps in multi pistion time (100, 200 and 500). Everything after that, companies are looking for turbine time, jet time, 121 time, etc. Point being, build total time and the multi requirement will be there in no time from instructing.

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If your dead set on using papa's money, take a trip around the US by yourself in a high performance single. You will be flying in all sorts of airspace, weather, and be the acting PIC. That is one thing I wish I could do.

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This is a great idea and I would recommend it to everyone "up and coming". Although, I would suggest doing this in a twin. Why not build the multi time (rhetorical question)?

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If your dead set on using papa's money, take a trip around the US by yourself in a high performance single. You will be flying in all sorts of airspace, weather, and be the acting PIC. That is one thing I wish I could do.


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Since I'm not doing anything like PFT/PFJ or SIC programs, I had planned on buying a chunk of multi time so I could take a cross country tour. In fact, I'm taking a trip to Chicago in about a month, in my flight school's Seminole. With a ME rating thats all PIC. But as I said before, I completely agree that teaching is crucial stepping stone in my career, and I look foward to doing it. However if I can fly 100hrs of multi time in a rental within a few months, that will be way more than I could average (judging by other CFIs posts) doing it as a MEI just starting out. Lastly, that 100hrs is 100hrs closer to the minimums at the regional level, so that quick 100 plus time as an MEI should help me acheive my goal (hopefully..I have 400tt, about 35hrs actual IFR with about 15multi at the moment). THanks for your input on the thread.

I definately appreciate when someone calls me out when I f#ck up, but it was the constant bashing that got me. Glad we're cool. Ask Captain Peaknuckle, if you ride/party wit' me, we'll hit the town hard. I'll come with new pickup lines too

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I know my ME instructor at Air Orlando was raking in the ME time there. A lot of how long you spend as a CFI depends on how hard you work to get students, the quality of instruction you give them and what school you instruct at.

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Was that BC? I haven't heard how much their new twins are flying, however, I would presume not much as that was the trend pre-Charley. I heard he went to expressjet along with a few others when they were hiring at 600/100.

My recommendation:

Option A) If it's multi time you're looking to build as an MEI, go to a school that has a lot of career-pilot people and that has an established multi-program (like Ari-Ben, ATP, or skymates). I'm doing about 10 -15 hours of multi a week here - not bad but I'm sure those multi-intensive schools do much more. I "eventually" opted for this route, and it does work with decent QOL (for a CFI).

Option B) Get your 1200 liquidy-split (sp?) and bolt for a 135 carrier with low multi requirements (Airnet/Ameriflight) with a chance for turbine time. It seems people who come out of those jobs are snatched by the regionals faster than you can blink. I wish I would've opted for this route (I still could, but I do want to go to a regional, and flying freight another year just doesn't turn me on right now, but it may change...).

~wheelsup

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However if I can fly 100hrs of multi time in a rental within a few months, that will be way more than I could average (judging by other CFIs posts) doing it as a MEI just starting out.

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Nole, I keep trying, but you keep missing the point. What is your hurry? Seriously, dude. You've said yourself that you wouldn't mind spending a year instructing. It's totally possible that you COULD build 100 hours ME time (counting in with the time taken to get you ME rating and your MEI) in a year. It depends on how hard you work at it and what school you get on with. You're in this rush, and I really don't understand why. Sure, you could buy 100 hours "just in case" or "because it's not happening fast enough" or whatever your reasoning. I think the trip to Chicago is a great idea, and it's an excellent way to build time. However, I still don't think blowing money on ME time just because you lack patience is a smart thing to do. I thought "sure, I'm ready to do this CFI thing," that was until I started studying for it and realized how much I DIDN'T know. Imagine how you would feel IF you passed the interview and got into ground school at a regional.

Seriously, I understand you're anxious, but the airline world isn't going to disappear overnight.....well, maybe not.

As far as multi time goes, I've picked up about 15 hours in the last 4 months without an MEI - just got the MEI so hopefully more is on the way. I'm instructing, making WAY more money then a first year FO, and picked up 40 hours in the last two weeks.

I'd also like to say that I learned more in the first two months instructing then the first two years of flying. It's a blast.

I gotcha Kell. That seems like a better course of action. That is why I talk to you guys! I'm gonna buy about 35hrs or so on the multi (I have time to kill in Tallahassee before I graduate), and hold of on dropping the 30K on time building. However, like you said, if the hours arent coming that fast while Im an MEI, then I'll look into buying some more hours.

And thanks Wheelsup, I'm definately gonna look into those 135 operators.


Also, to anyone: I have a couple friends whose families have private jets. One has a CL604 and a King200 and the other a Falcon 900 (I'd kill just to sit in the lav on them ). Do the ones who don't have a personal crew on salary go through companies which "stock" pilots, or is it more of a "here is my application, I'm type rated on your plane,can I have a job?" kind of thing? The 135 idea got me thinking about it. Also, if the families do hire on an individual basis, are there limitations as to who they can hire because of insurance reqs.,etc.? I asked my buddy about it and he just said they've used the same two pilots for the last 6 years or so but he didn't know where they came from. Lastly, is it worth it to even try, because I would assume I'd need to have a type rating on their aircraft before I would even apply...THoughts?

Well, Mike, I figure the fact that you fly an airplane that he can't see until it's dropped a GPS guided bomb down his exhaust fan when he's taking a dump probably had something to do with that.

Ya Tony, that's part of it. But it's the road to getting to fly that bad ass bird is what I was talking about. Not everyone gets to fly the F-117.
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I'd be happy to, starting rounds of drinks on me .. But are you sure you can handle drinkin with a college boy? We go through the stuff like water (Truth is, I'm not even a big drinker )

Anyway, my semester ends the 29th, so I was thinkin Id take the flight a week or so after. I have friends who go to Northwestern and had planned on meeting up with them. If anyone is in town I'd be happy to hang with them; I can talk planes with someone who doesn't think every jet is a 747

If you do something in Chicago let me and Emily know. We've got a crazy schedule the next few weeks, but if ya'll do something on an off weekend for us we'll drive out!

This has got to be some record for a new member with the most amount of replies per thread

THat's a negative, see Brian Jesus.