Are these like GIA?

I found this site tonight that directed me to companies that offer SIC and one that offered PIC time building in their aircraft. Some ran cargo, others were for non-profit orgs. The prices were pretty good, but I was wondering if these are kind of viewed as going the PFT/PFJ route. You can buy 50, 100, and 250hr blocks of time usually. I only wanted to buy about 50 hoursif I were to do a program similar to this. I figure its a good way just to get a nice chunk of time in about a month. I know about Skymates, but I just wanted to get everyones take on these kind of programs.

Here is a couple (I don't mean to advertise for them, I'm just using them as an example):

http://www.skyark.org/index.php?module=ContentExpress&func=display&ceid=5


http://www.keylimeair.com/SIC.asp

Come on, Nole.

Quit while you're behind. . .

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Come on, Nole.

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Listen to this man.

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I found this site tonight that directed me to companies that offer SIC and one that offered PIC time building in their aircraft. Some ran cargo, others were for non-profit orgs. The prices were pretty good, but I was wondering if these are kind of viewed as going the PFT/PFJ route. You can buy 50, 100, and 250hr blocks of time usually. I only wanted to buy about 50 hoursif I were to do a program similar to this. I figure its a good way just to get a nice chunk of time in about a month. I know about Skymates, but I just wanted to get everyones take on these kind of programs.

Here is a couple (I don't mean to advertise for them, I'm just using them as an example):

http://www.skyark.org/index.php?module=ContentExpress&func=display&ceid=5


http://www.keylimeair.com/SIC.asp

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Go ahead Nole...Buy your 50 hours!

Everything about Sky ark was ok until I read this:

All accepted pilots will need to make a donation of $3,995 for each 50 hour block to help defray costs.

Oh how nice PFT/PFJ disguised in a non-profit organization.

What's next...?

I don't know SteveC, Think about it.

You're already volunteering/donating your time/skills to fly the airplane, so why should you pay to fly it? It's non-profit they already have the airplane so what costs do they have to defray? Oh yeah it's expensive to fly an airplane around so let's make a time builder pay. Does Angel flight make you pay for donating your time?

Once again, someone reads into the threads, everyone BUT YOU Av8er got what I was talking about. You must be one of those guys that let the Marines "tweak" you a little too hard (and before you rip on me for that, I come from a military family).

But anyway, to the civilized guys, I guess while looking into it more with a sober head, it is a PFT/PFJ kind of thing. I didn't expect to work for these companies, just get my 50 and be gone. Good and quick multi time is hard to find, so that's why I wanted your opinions on it. Thanks for the info.

Doug, "Word" was way cooler than Prince Charles.

Oh, another question. Why isnt skymates looked at poorly at all? Is it just because they offer rental rates at a low cost when you buy a block? It almost seems to be the same thing as that non-profit pet place since all you're doing is dropping some cash for some twin time.

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Oh, another question. Why isnt skymates looked at poorly at all? Is it just because they offer rental rates at a low cost when you buy a block?

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Oh come on, dude. First off, don't call out Lloyd unless you've read most of his stuff. This guy's probably one of the best CFIs around, and you'd be wise to listen more and talk less. I cut you a lot of slack before, but now it looks like you're just trying to justify your decisions. Buying block time is like buying paper towels in bulk. The more ya buy, the less you spend. You're still flying the airplane, you're a required crew member and you're not paying for a seat that someone else should be paid to occupy. It's like calling one flight school PFJ because they charge $60/hr for a 152 when the school across the taxiway charges $80. Skymates offers low rates b/c they keep their costs low by operating older equipment instead of fancy 2001 Seminoles with GPS.

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It almost seems to be the same thing as that non-profit pet place since all you're doing is dropping some cash for some twin time.

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As Doug said, not even the same ballpark. The non-profit place charges you money to offset their costs, and the time you build shouldn't even be technically loggable. 1) how can an instructor instruct from the back seat and 2) what kind of instruction are you recieving? Spending 50 hours to get a BFR or IPC is kinda weird to me, so you can bet it would be at an interview.

Here is another one of the PFT/PFJ pop ups

http://www.alpine-air.com/fo/

Sleazy pricks

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[ Skymates offers low rates b/c they keep their costs low by operating older equipment instead of fancy 2001 Seminoles with GPS.

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Ooooohhhh Kells nice bitch slap at ATP....

-Matthew

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I cut you a lot of slack before, but now it looks like you're just trying to justify your decisions.

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Human nature is to always think you're right especially when things don't make sense with the "wealth of knowledge" you may already possess .
No one wants to be told they're wrong because of that "wealth of information" they possess. He still needs a little slack