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A new flavor of PFJ?

Discussion in 'Mind Numbing Topics' started by BrettInLJ, Jan 23, 2006.

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  1. meritflyer Well-Known Member

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    last thought..

    There are more ways than one to an airline job. I think the general idea portrayed on this website is you MUST

    1. Get your ratings (CMEL - CFIIME).
    2. Instruct, instruct, instruct.
    3. Apply, apply, apply.

    I think there is more than one way to achieve the ultimate goal of an airline job that is still challenging and effective. Its as if you dont go the through the steps I listed above - you suck! I think that there are MANY extraordinary pilots who dont follow this route. The type programs seem like one of them.
  2. Derg Major Domo

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    Are you 'trolling'?

    If so, you really don't want to troll. It's not pretty and very humiliating.
  3. mtsu_av8er Well-Known Member

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    Merit - don't forget Lloyd's "Beat Feet to The Right Seat" program!!!

    I might have to go ferry an Aztec from Little Rock in a week or so - For $1200, you can ride along, talk to ATC, fly, and watch for traffic!!
  4. Derg Major Domo

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    Lloyd, don't be so Wal Mart about it. Gotta think like "Sharper Image", bro!

    I'll offer the program for $1,500, I'll keep $300 as a 'administrative fee' and then forward you $1,200 free 'n clear. So when our customer gets himself burned, I have deniability because I only acted as an agent and you'll have protection because you're simply a sub-contractor.
  5. IrishSheepdog Neighborhood Watch

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    Yes, it seems with "meritflyer" we have a rolling trend here with posts.
  6. meritflyer Well-Known Member

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    ok. ok. what is "trolling" and "rolling"? Its as though there is only one right door around here.
  7. wheelsup Well-Known Member

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    You should post this "job opening" on climbto350 or similar job site, but prominently state that the "pilot" is required to pay $1200 for a "training fee" for this flight. You can seal the deal by saying "this is a great opportunity for a low Multi time pilot to get some real world experience and log some quality time for cheaper that it costs to rent a 172!"

    Then post the replied, without names. It'd be hilarious!! Call it an "indsutry study" or something :eek:

    ~wheelsup
  8. wheelsup Well-Known Member

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    Trolling is intentionally getting the "community" feathers in a ruffle by posting things that you know will drive people nuts and increase their blood pressure. It's the same as antagonizing kids in school just to get a reaction.
  9. Derg Major Domo

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    There's no single 'right door' anywhere.

    We're a guidance-based website. An interface between professional pilots and those interested in learning about professional aviation.

    I went thru great lengths to write a professional pilots perspective on the issue because it came up time and time again and I feel, correct me if I'm wrong, that I did a pretty good job explaining why things like PFT/PFJ have a direct impact on why an average new hire CRJ pilot with a family is on welfare.

    I like analogies.

    You're basically coming to the "Dr. Phil" show asking "Why develop a healthy relationship with a lady when I can just get a hooker?"
  10. meritflyer Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the explanation. No, I am not "trolling" at all. I am trying to get a grasp of what is generally acceptable and what isnt. I am reasonably new to the aviation thing. I would hate to be one of those "dumb pilots" that PFT/PJFs out of not knowing what is kosher in the aviation world.

    I guess the type programs are PFJ.
  11. Derg Major Domo

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    That page hasn't been 'hit' in the last 10 minutes. I at least expect to see at least *one* after reading this thread, MeritFlyer!
  12. wheelsup Well-Known Member

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    There's a little voice inside everybody called the "conscience" that tells you if something is right or wrong. Use it, it won't steer you in the wrong direction :)!

    ~wheelsup

    Edit: I clicked the link to just see what was there :). It's good stuff - take a gander merit.
  13. Chris_Ford Suspended

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    This is a much more important question and requires an immediate answer :)
  14. mtsu_av8er Well-Known Member

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    See, you are the man!! All this talk about a flight school - I'll sub-contract as the "Airline Pilot Advanced Right-Seat Hiring" program!! This is obviously where the money is!!
  15. Derg Major Domo

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    But we need a spokesrapper to give us "street cred" though.
  16. mtsu_av8er Well-Known Member

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    SWEET!!!!! It's just been submitted!!

    Looks like I'll be making rent this month after all . . . :rawk:
  17. Chris_Ford Suspended

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    I'll do it for $100/customer.


    Seriously, look at that avatar. If it doesn't scream street cred, nothing will.
  18. mtsu_av8er Well-Known Member

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    Come on, Chris - look at our business model and tell me if you think we need anybody on our payroll!!! I'll just let somebody fly with me once or twice and that should be payment enough!!!:)
  19. Chris_Ford Suspended

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    See, but here's the thing. I make brands explode. And "fast feet to the right seat" or whatever it's called can be one of those brands, if you pay me $100 per customer.

    Example: Fubu was nothing until I started hawking it. Neither was Avirex. Or perhaps you might've heard of Nike "Air Force Ones"... Some of the most popular apparel of its time, all thanks to me. Notice in my avatar how I am wearing a sports jersey? I started that trend too.
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    "I think that there are MANY extraordinary pilots who dont follow this route"

    There may be but I'd bet the number that do it the traditional way is exponentally larger. But hey, go to RAA and let us know how it works out.

    You talk about seniority numbers in your last year? That only works if you stay with the same airline from 600 total to retirement. What are the odds of that? When you leave your first job for your second job, you start over.

    There are too many variables over the course of a career to give the "get on quick for the seniority" agrument to hold water.
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