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7 Types of Class E??

Discussion in 'CFI Corner' started by cfii2007, Dec 6, 2007.

  1. cfii2007 New Member

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    My student today told me there are "7" types of Class E Airspace:

    1) Class E Surface
    2) Class E starting at 700'
    3) Class E starting at 1200"
    4) Class E with differentiated floors
    5) Class E above Class B
    6) Class E above Class C
    7) Class E above Class D

    Is he correct?
  2. bdhill1979 Gone West

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    all seven are class Echo, they are not different types.

    Don't let students make stuff up.
  3. bdhill1979 Gone West

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  4. jrh Well-Known Member

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    Well...ummm...if it helps him remember it better, I guess that works, but it's not really different types. Class E is Class E, simple as that.

    You could say all of those same things about Class B airspace if you wanted to, but the fact is, it's still just Class B.
  5. cfii2007 New Member

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    I agree...they just have different floors.
  6. bdhill1979 Gone West

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    Dont forget the floor of the Echo airspace above Alpha airspace that starts at 60,001

    Or the Echo airspace between 14,500 and 17,999

    So that makes Nine.
  7. cfii2007 New Member

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    There's E above A????
  8. bdhill1979 Gone West

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    Read the FAR I posted
  9. cfii2007 New Member

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    Yes.......................
  10. NickH Well-Known Member

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    Which pilot mill do you CFI at?
  11. jrh Well-Known Member

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    Good grief man, cut the guy some slack.
  12. jawright New Member

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    I just remember "SET VODA":

    Surface area
    Extension to a surface area
    Transition area

    Victor Airway
    Offshore (controlled airspace beyond 12 NM from the coast of the US)
    Domestic Enroute areas
    Above class A (above FL600)
  13. embraer07 Well-Known Member

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    So there are CFIs out there that don't know little things like Class Echo at 60,001??

    That makes me feel better... My CFI checkride is next week and I have never been this nervous. As a result I have been studying and eating up information round the clock for the past month. I currently have 5 different books that I study everyday including the FAR/AIM and the Private and Instrument/Commercial Jepp books. A question like this about Class E would roll right off the tip of my tounge including all the altitudes, visibilty & clould distance requirments, etc...

    So maybe I am actually ready for this checkride? I just wish it was over with! The horror stories of the FSDO examiners and that 80% fail rate I hear about is making me lose sleep and encouraging me never to put a book down. Seriously last night I had a dream (nightmare?) that involved a page with Part 61.87 on it floating in front of my eyes...:confused:
  14. NickH Well-Known Member

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    I think there's been far too much slack cut for him along the way.
  15. cfii2007 New Member

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    Well, sorry there are some things I don't know...........
  16. jrh Well-Known Member

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    There's nothing wrong with telling a person they need to understand a particular area of knowledge better.

    Making cracks about being from a pilot mill is unnecessary and out of line, in my opinion.

    It'd be nice if every CFI had flawless knowledge the day after they passed their CFI checkride, but the world doesn't work that way. This is a classic example of why being a CFI is valuable...it makes one dig deeper in to the FARs than they would as just a regular pilot.

    I know I haven't been a perfect CFI all along, and I'm still not, for that matter. Quiz me long enough and you're guaranteed to find something I don't know. I suspect you'd be the same.

    So to say, "As a CFI you ought to know this stuff better," that's one thing, but to come out with jabs about being from a pilot mill...I'd take that as a straight out insult.
  17. exleardriver New Member

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    keep posting, brother..i've been teaching since the mid-90's and still have to study/review every week to stay abreast of all the myriad questions people ask of a cfi. aeronautical knowledge is like a '500-lb gorilla'..you can never learn and retain it all in absolute..can only try your best. i can strive for excellence, but perfection is 'god's realm'. at least you take an active interest in learning like the rest of us on this forum. i still get surprised from time to time myself on material i thought i knew cold.:bandit:
  18. cfii2007 New Member

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    I agree...the more I teach....the more I learn.

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