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Old April 29th, 2009, 16:00   #26
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Old April 29th, 2009, 16:36   #27
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Okay, well the situation is this.

I fly the owner of that airplane (Piper Matrix) around and he sits in the left seat while I sit in the right. He's a student pilot, so I guess that would make us legal being that he is a "pilot'.

Thanks for the input guys.
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Okay, well the situation is this.

I fly the owner of that airplane (Piper Matrix) around and he sits in the left seat while I sit in the right. He's a student pilot, so I guess that would make us legal being that he is a "pilot'.

Thanks for the input guys.
Are you a current CFI? I would say you are probably safe since it does not say PIC/SIC, it just says pilot in the left seat. A Stud pilot is a pilot...

On the other hand, how are you guys logging it and what are your ratings?
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Old April 29th, 2009, 19:07   #29
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Are you a current CFI? I would say you are probably safe since it does not say PIC/SIC, it just says pilot in the left seat. A Stud pilot is a pilot...

On the other hand, how are you guys logging it and what are your ratings?
I have an ATP and my CFI is not current. I'll be doing a reinstatement ride for my CFI next month.

The owner is not logging any of the time we spend flying.
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That's the exact layout as the POH I listed. So you're saying because no PFD panel on the right side? I don't know about that. What about all the GA aircraft with only a six pack on the left side?
In some cases the screen of a PFD difficult to see from an angle. In other cases it might be the location of certain controls which would make reaching over from the right difficult.
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Old April 29th, 2009, 23:27   #31
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I have an ATP and my CFI is not current. I'll be doing a reinstatement ride for my CFI next month.

The owner is not logging any of the time we spend flying.
I'd say until you reinstate your CFI the owner shouldn't be in the left seat.

The Caravan has the same limitation as the one you highlighted earlier on the Matrix. All the switches and all the CB's are on the left side and would be all but impossible to reach from the right seat if someone tried to solo from the right seat.
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In other cases it might be the location of certain controls which would make reaching over from the right difficult.
Citation emergency brake handle location is an example.

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Old April 30th, 2009, 09:42   #33
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Thanks for the input guys. We probably wont fly together until I reinstate my CFI. We only fly the Matrix about once a month. He also has a King Air I fly, which I fly from the left seat.

As far as not being able to perform any functions from the right seat. The standby instruments are way over on the left side. If the PFD failed in IMC, I'd have the owner switch places with me as they are hard to read from the right seat.

Come to think of it, the King Air I fly has several switches on the left side that can only be operated from the left seat and yet no limitation in the POH.
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