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Old December 8th, 2006, 13:45   #1
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Default Logbooks, does it add up?

When interviewing for airlines, I know many look at your logbook and make sure it adds up, left, right, backwards and foward and upside-down. In checking mine, my day and night time don't add up. One CFI forgot to add it once and another time, I have Level D sim time, and didnt' know what what counted as. So I'm only about 2 hours off. Would this raise a flag? Should I take a line to make a "records" correction. Or should I leave it? Also during my internship I logged a little Sim time. I guess since it was a 737 sim it counts as multi or what??
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Old December 8th, 2006, 13:55   #2
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Should I take a line to make a "records" correction.
That would probably be your best bet, and according to an airline recruiter that I talked with, it is a perfectly accaptable (and preferred) way to make corrections.
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Old December 8th, 2006, 14:48   #3
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Sax, just had the same problem...spent a few hours going through every line of my log just to find some stupid mistakes from back when i started flight training.

also, i've got the same question about the level D sim time, have about 25 hours from my Kingair 200 training down at simuflite...can't figure out how to log it...is it just sim time, or should i log it as total time 'cause it was level C???
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Old December 8th, 2006, 20:53   #4
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I don't think you log any sim time as total time or multi-engine. Just log it as sim time. I have no sim time in an actual "simulator" but in my logbook I actually have "FTD" written under "Flight Simulator" just to clarify that fact.

I also don't think being off by 2 hours (in how many) is going to make that big of a deal... as long as you have all the mins, maybe with those two missing!
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I don't think you log any sim time as total time or multi-engine. Just log it as sim time. I have no sim time in an actual "simulator" but in my logbook I actually have "FTD" written under "Flight Simulator" just to clarify that fact.
Actually this time was not FTD time. This was a full motion level D simulator. I have lots of FTD time, and I never counted that toward total time, as you're not suppose to. But a simulator is different and I'm wondering who would know.
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despite the fact that you're not supposed to, lots of people at a place i "work" log the level C and level D stuff in their logbooks as total time, multi-engine, and turbine. most of them get jobs flying learjets and citations from this program and the employers don't seem to question the logging of sim as TT. personally, i keep a seperate logbook for my learjet sim time. for $10 it's easier to keep the real flight time and sim seperate. you should log something though because if it's under part 142 100 hours counts toward ATP and you can use the approaches and landings for currency.
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Old December 12th, 2006, 13:50   #7
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When interviewing for airlines, I know many look at your logbook and make sure it adds up, left, right, backwards and foward and upside-down. In checking mine, my day and night time don't add up. One CFI forgot to add it once and another time, I have Level D sim time, and didnt' know what what counted as. So I'm only about 2 hours off. Would this raise a flag? Should I take a line to make a "records" correction. Or should I leave it? Also during my internship I logged a little Sim time. I guess since it was a 737 sim it counts as multi or what??
I log my sim. time as sim. time and leave it at that. However know I'm not logging it correctly, because some of the commercial training operations have this "buddy" program where you get checked out as SIC on one (or perhaps many) of their sims. and then when they need a customer who needs another pilot to round out the crew you get to come in and fly the sim. with them. I worked with a guy who had compiled a ton of hours doing that and that's how he got his Part 135 PIC IFR mins., but I never really dug into how he'd logged the time.

Anyway - 2 hours - especially if it's sim. time you logged more conservatively than you needed to shouldn't be a problem, and even if it's logged wrong it's such a far end of the spectrum issue I can't imagine most airlines would care. Now if you had 500 hours of sim. time, then.....
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