Piper or Cessna

SeanD · April 20th, 2006, 13:29

Im just curious on some of your thoughts on what you prefer to fly. I like the Piper because Im not a fan of the high wing design and the Piper doesnt seem to have as many blind spots. Anyone?

ASpilot2be · April 20th, 2006, 13:33

Cessna. Oh, and wrong forum

Champcar · April 20th, 2006, 14:06

In a nut shell they're about the same. The wing placement doesnt make much of a differance. There are pluses and Negitives to both. I like the control feel of the Warriors, its not a musshy as the Cessnas. Try both out and see what one you like.

Dont read into the whole low wing, high wing thing too much. I laugh when I hear a "low wing" check out.

SeanD · April 20th, 2006, 14:11

I have tried both. Cessna seems a bit sluggish on climouts. Im taking up the Warrior for a few this Saturday, love that airplane.

Champcar · April 20th, 2006, 14:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanD

I have tried both. Cessna seems a bit sluggish on climouts. Im taking up the Warrior for a few this Saturday, love that airplane.

The more I fly the 172 the more I dont like it. With that thing the challenge of flying is all but gone. Slow, sluggish, Massive Flaps. The high wing blind spot make me nervous in the pattern because when you are wing up your blind to all traffic. And when ATC sends an Aircraft your way on accident it almost made me crap my pants.

MidlifeFlyer · April 20th, 2006, 15:46

I wouldn't be at all surprised that in most cases, the configuration you learned in (high or low) is the one you like the best.

Champcar's experience is a good example. I learned in a Tomahawk and the first time I turned downwind to base I thought, "where the heck did the runway go?" I'm sure that Cessna learners who make that first PA-28 transition after being able to look out the window during the flare and see =exactly= how high the wheels are off the ground can't figure out how the heck you can =possibly= land the beast properly.

Assuming you stay with flying light aircraft, the preference probably follows along. In my area, the flight schools tend to be heavily Cessna, so I now have a lot more experience in that line than in the Pipers. Nevertheless, despite the passage of time (and a bit of type rust), those low wings still just feel better.

MikeD · April 20th, 2006, 15:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanD

I like the Piper because Im not a fan of the high wing design and the Piper doesnt seem to have as many blind spots. Anyone?

Prefer Northrop.

Am used to both actually. Really no preference over high or low wing, and both companies put out a good product IMO.

Like the Cessna 207/208 and O-2 series; as well as the Piper Cherokee 6/Lance series.

meritflyer · April 20th, 2006, 16:15

Piper is a much better airplane IMO.

SteveC · April 20th, 2006, 16:44

I'm currently flying a Cessna low wing.

MikeD · April 20th, 2006, 16:47

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Originally Posted by SteveC

I'm currently flying a Cessna low wing.

Piper makes some good high wing's too! lol

mastermags · April 20th, 2006, 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeD

Piper makes some good high wing's too! lol

Touche. Can't beat the cub!

desertdog71 · April 20th, 2006, 23:56

I fly mostly 172's. I did fly a Cherokee 140 a few days ago, and noticed that it was a bit more responsive. It was also a BIOTCH! to get in and out of. It also took to crosswinds a whole lot easier that the Cessna. Seemed to float a little less on flare as well.

Having only that to judge from, I don't see much difference. I am sure that in higher performance types there may be a huge difference.

Red5xwingdriver · April 21st, 2006, 15:21

I started out on cessnas early in my training, and I ended up instructing at a school that also had pipers. I must say that I luv BOTH. The highwings are good for when on a cross-country you would be able to see your checkpoint almost straight down, just pop the window open and look

. But I also agree that the piper low wings have a control feel that's better (at least a little) than the cessnas (especially the ARCHER). After that, it comes down knowing the blindspots and personal preference.

jtrain609 · April 21st, 2006, 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveC

I'm currently flying a Cessna low wing.

Quote from a center controller to a Citation driver:

"I'll stop calling you twin Cessna when you stop calling me approach"

CRJ700 · May 2nd, 2006, 00:13

My opinion is that Piper's are easier to land, but Cessnas are easier to fly with the right amount of rudder. Cessnas are my vote. I like the view down below.

roundout · May 2nd, 2006, 09:23

whichever is cheaper.

JDE · May 2nd, 2006, 10:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Herreshoff

Quote from a center controller to a Citation driver:

"I'll stop calling you twin Cessna when you stop calling me approach"

Reminds me of something I heard the other day...

ATC: "Citation XXX, say mach number"
Pilot: ".63"
(silence)
ATC: "You can only do .63?"
Pilot: "Yeah, we're in a toy jet."

As far as Piper v Cessna...I've flown both quite a bit, and I like the low wing planes better, but that's just personal preference. After I finished my private, I did everything else in a low wing (Beechcraft, however).

adreamer · May 2nd, 2006, 11:57

Quote:

Prefer Northrop.

MikeD, just wondering F-5 series? F-20?

About Cessna vs. Piper....both of them are good planes to fly.

adreamer

JaceTheAce · May 2nd, 2006, 15:31

Hmm... I think Cessna 172's are easier to land but Warriors are more stable and require less rudder input to make a coordinated turn (maybe because of the wing has a larger angled dihedral?).

I like both just as much.

Champcar · May 2nd, 2006, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaceTheAce

Hmm... I think Cessna 172's are easier to land but Warriors are more stable and require less rudder input to make a coordinated turn (maybe because of the wing has a larger angled dihedral?).

I like both just as much.

Yeah, I dont think the 172 has any dihedral. The 380 has some pretty serious dihedral though.

Stonefly · May 2nd, 2006, 21:41

I prefer mid-wing Lockheeds!

I did my training in Pipers, but did all of my instructing in Cessnas. I don't think that one is clearly superior to another. I have noticed that many people like the "look" of a low wing, as a high wing Cessna screams trainer.

Flying single engine over the rocks, I'll take a high wing. It will land anywhere a low wing will, but the same can not be said the other way around. Plus, I'm constantly looking for places to put down for when (if) the engine coughs or sputters, and the high wing facillitates that as your best spot for landing may be abeam or even behind you.

Just my $.02

Stonefly

mtsu_av8er · May 3rd, 2006, 05:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stonefly

I have noticed that many people like the "look" of a low wing, as a high wing Cessna screams trainer.

Like the idiots that choose DA-20s because they "look cool".

Silly people . . .

SeanD · May 3rd, 2006, 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtsu_av8er

Like the idiots that choose DA-20s because they "look cool".

Silly people . . .

I saw a DA-20 the other day and I was not to impressed. It doesnt look to stable to me. There are some wicked updrafts from the ridges here in Vegas.

slushie · May 4th, 2006, 02:45

Cessna:
Smooth
easier for Slushie to get in and out of
better for pictures.
Hard to fuel if they dont have a step.
bungee nosewheel steering

Piper:
Crappy panel layouts
Ugly little lines on the rudder
"Alright, [insert girl's name here], I have to get in first",
Hard to sump under the wings.
fuel pumps.
need to wear a hat in Vegas summers.
I still can't land the Arrow.

JDE · May 5th, 2006, 15:38

The REAL DA-20 is a pretty cool lookin bird!

April 20th, 2006, 13:29	#1
SeanD Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KLAS Posts: 3,356	Piper or Cessna Im just curious on some of your thoughts on what you prefer to fly. I like the Piper because Im not a fan of the high wing design and the Piper doesnt seem to have as many blind spots. Anyone? __________________ JoBama 08

April 20th, 2006, 13:33	#2
ASpilot2be Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: Paradise:) Posts: 4,511	Cessna. Oh, and wrong forum __________________

April 20th, 2006, 14:06	#3
Champcar Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ROC Posts: 2,211	In a nut shell they're about the same. The wing placement doesnt make much of a differance. There are pluses and Negitives to both. I like the control feel of the Warriors, its not a musshy as the Cessnas. Try both out and see what one you like. Dont read into the whole low wing, high wing thing too much. I laugh when I hear a "low wing" check out. __________________

April 20th, 2006, 14:11	#4
SeanD Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KLAS Posts: 3,356	I have tried both. Cessna seems a bit sluggish on climouts. Im taking up the Warrior for a few this Saturday, love that airplane. __________________ JoBama 08

April 20th, 2006, 15:46	#6
MidlifeFlyer Old Skool Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver Colorado Posts: 2,974	I wouldn't be at all surprised that in most cases, the configuration you learned in (high or low) is the one you like the best. Champcar's experience is a good example. I learned in a Tomahawk and the first time I turned downwind to base I thought, "where the heck did the runway go?" I'm sure that Cessna learners who make that first PA-28 transition after being able to look out the window during the flare and see =exactly= how high the wheels are off the ground can't figure out how the heck you can =possibly= land the beast properly. Assuming you stay with flying light aircraft, the preference probably follows along. In my area, the flight schools tend to be heavily Cessna, so I now have a lot more experience in that line than in the Pipers. Nevertheless, despite the passage of time (and a bit of type rust), those low wings still just feel better. __________________ Mark www.midlifeflight.com "I don't understand" doesn't mean it's gray

April 20th, 2006, 16:15	#8
meritflyer Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Winchestertonfieldville Posts: 6,608	Piper is a much better airplane IMO. __________________ The simplest answer tends to be correct.

April 20th, 2006, 16:44	#9
SteveC Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: GRR Posts: 8,483	I'm currently flying a Cessna low wing. __________________ . If life gives you lemons, throw 'em into a quart of vodka. ~Red Green

April 20th, 2006, 23:56	#12
desertdog71 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: KIDP/KCNU Posts: 3,006	I fly mostly 172's. I did fly a Cherokee 140 a few days ago, and noticed that it was a bit more responsive. It was also a BIOTCH! to get in and out of. It also took to crosswinds a whole lot easier that the Cessna. Seemed to float a little less on flare as well. Having only that to judge from, I don't see much difference. I am sure that in higher performance types there may be a huge difference. __________________ www.flywhiteair.com http://www.myspace.com/desertdog71 Following message is for SkyCougar. Took my chances on a big jet plane, Never let them tell you that they're all the same.

April 21st, 2006, 15:21	#13
Red5xwingdriver Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brooklyn, NY BABY! Posts: 56	I started out on cessnas early in my training, and I ended up instructing at a school that also had pipers. I must say that I luv BOTH. The highwings are good for when on a cross-country you would be able to see your checkpoint almost straight down, just pop the window open and look . But I also agree that the piper low wings have a control feel that's better (at least a little) than the cessnas (especially the ARCHER). After that, it comes down knowing the blindspots and personal preference. __________________ __________________________________ If the blue side is down, the green side is up, and the altimeter is counting down from 200 feet.......there is something VERY wrong! __________________________________ IF the beauty of flying is Marylin Monroe, then the knowledge and skill to fly competently and safely is Joe DiMaggio....BEFORE their divorce;-)

May 2nd, 2006, 00:13	#15
CRJ700 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: BOS/GFK Posts: 297	Re: Piper or Cessna My opinion is that Piper's are easier to land, but Cessnas are easier to fly with the right amount of rudder. Cessnas are my vote. I like the view down below.

May 2nd, 2006, 09:23	#16
roundout Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: kads Posts: 806	Re: Piper or Cessna whichever is cheaper. __________________ http://www.m-w.com/dictionary.htm this reference tool contains examples of the proper spellings and usages of the following words: your, you're, there, their, they're, than, then

May 2nd, 2006, 15:31	#19
JaceTheAce Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Most of the time in the air Posts: 7,345	Re: Piper or Cessna Hmm... I think Cessna 172's are easier to land but Warriors are more stable and require less rudder input to make a coordinated turn (maybe because of the wing has a larger angled dihedral?). I like both just as much. __________________ "Time spent flying is not deducted from one's lifespan." Free The Grapes!

May 2nd, 2006, 21:41	#21
Stonefly Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 55	Re: Piper or Cessna I prefer mid-wing Lockheeds! I did my training in Pipers, but did all of my instructing in Cessnas. I don't think that one is clearly superior to another. I have noticed that many people like the "look" of a low wing, as a high wing Cessna screams trainer. Flying single engine over the rocks, I'll take a high wing. It will land anywhere a low wing will, but the same can not be said the other way around. Plus, I'm constantly looking for places to put down for when (if) the engine coughs or sputters, and the high wing facillitates that as your best spot for landing may be abeam or even behind you. Just my $.02 Stonefly

May 4th, 2006, 02:45	#24
slushie Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Vegas Posts: 2,022	Re: Piper or Cessna Cessna: Smooth easier for Slushie to get in and out of better for pictures. Hard to fuel if they dont have a step. bungee nosewheel steering Piper: Crappy panel layouts Ugly little lines on the rudder "Alright, [insert girl's name here], I have to get in first", Hard to sump under the wings. fuel pumps. need to wear a hat in Vegas summers. I still can't land the Arrow. __________________ There is not much at lushaviation.com

May 5th, 2006, 15:38	#25
JDE Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 1,516	Re: Piper or Cessna The REAL DA-20 is a pretty cool lookin bird! __________________ Jason Last edited by JDE; January 29th, 2008 at 00:25.

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