Canadian-isms

mrivc211 · September 30th, 2009, 22:26

So what gives? Why is there different terms between the US and CA?

Line up and wait vs position and hold

thats correct vs nothing

cleared to 9000 vs descend and maintain 9000

and why the heck does it always sound like ya'll are talking from a bi-plane?

ps. whats the hoopla over Tim Hortons? lol

BobDDuck · September 30th, 2009, 23:37

And god forbid you call it a ramp in Toronto. The controller wouldn't answer me until I said "Apron Control".

Ah, I miss flying to the woolly white north.

Gonzo · October 1st, 2009, 00:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobDDuck

And god forbid you call it a ramp in Toronto. The controller wouldn't answer me until I said "Apron Control".

Ah, I miss flying to the woolly white north.

On IOE I must have call them ramp 10 time with the CA looks at me and goes try calling them Apron. Then the a-hole comes back with "There you are Eagle I was wondering when you where going to contact me?"

clestudentpilot · October 1st, 2009, 00:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrivc211

So what gives? Why is there different terms between the US and CA?

Line up and wait vs position and hold

thats correct vs nothing

cleared to 9000 vs descend and maintain 9000

and why the heck does it always sound like ya'll are talking from a bi-plane?

ps. whats the hoopla over Tim Hortons? lol

Line up and wait is ICAO, and have heard some rumors that eventually we will have to say it too.

zmiller4 · October 1st, 2009, 01:01

Tim Horton's is better than anything down here except Dunkin Donuts. I've never seen a DD in an airport, though, and there's like 5 Horton's in every Canadia aerodrome.

You should here some of the terminology/accents in the Caribbean.

RobertB · October 1st, 2009, 01:05

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Originally Posted by clestudentpilot

Line up and wait is ICAO, and have heard some rumors that eventually we will have to say it too.

I will never say that crap... Position and hold works just fine as does measuring everything in feet and miles.

stuckingfk · October 1st, 2009, 01:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by zmiller4

Tim Horton's is better than anything down here except Dunkin Donuts. I've never seen a DD in an airport, though, and there's like 5 Horton's in every Canadia aerodrome.

You should here some of the terminology/accents in the Caribbean.

PHL RSW MIA FLL

I'm sure there are a few others with DD inside the terminal.

TXTBOOK · October 1st, 2009, 01:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertB

I will never say that crap... Position and hold works just fine as does measuring everything in feet and miles.

+1

CN94559 · October 1st, 2009, 01:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertB

I will never say that crap... Position and hold works just fine as does measuring everything in feet and miles.

+2

the only other thing I would say is pause and hold, although maybe I'm biased cause for the Blue Angels its...

"Boss cleared to taxi pause and hold runway 17/35"

"Thanks MO, pause and hold"

mrivc211 · October 1st, 2009, 02:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobDDuck

And god forbid you call it a ramp in Toronto. The controller wouldn't answer me until I said "Apron Control".

Ah, I miss flying to the woolly white north.

I noticed that too. LOL. We were once parked at gate 33 in YYC and couldn't get a hold of ops,(needed a fuel truck, which was fueling our company over at gate 28) so we used Apron frequency to call our company to try and tell him to switch to ops frequency. The Apron guy went nuts about other people using his frequency. We couldnt walk over to their airplane because of customs issues.

Didn't want this turning into a US vs CAN thread, but I was just curious why there were such differences.

mrivc211 · October 1st, 2009, 02:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by zmiller4

Tim Horton's is better than anything down here except Dunkin Donuts. I've never seen a DD in an airport, though, and there's like 5 Horton's in every Canadia aerodrome.

You should here some of the terminology/accents in the Caribbean.

Actually, that is true. No that I think of it. It beats starbucks hands down. Their pastries are harder than.....a rock?

mrivc211 · October 1st, 2009, 02:21

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Originally Posted by clestudentpilot

Line up and wait is ICAO, and have heard some rumors that eventually we will have to say it too.

Oh and the other that gets me every time is when they tell us to contact departure airborne. I forget to do it every time. I'm just so used to being told to do it.

mrivc211 · October 1st, 2009, 02:22

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Originally Posted by stuckingfk

PHL RSW MIA FLL

I'm sure there are a few others with DD inside the terminal.

I see your part of my club too. That is the fat boy club

rjmore · October 1st, 2009, 05:45

When in Rome er...Canada...do as the Canadians do it. It's their country and they can do it however they want. It's up to you to conform to the country you're flying in not the other way around. If you don't like it, work for a company that doesn't leave the CONUS.

RobertB · October 1st, 2009, 10:33

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Originally Posted by mrivc211

Oh and the other that gets me every time is when they tell us to contact departure airborne. I forget to do it every time. I'm just so used to being told to do it.

That doesn't sound as safe to me. If you contact departure airborne, how am I supposed to potential separate you from other traffic if you are no longer on my frequency?

KLB · October 1st, 2009, 11:09

I flown up there so much that I've gotten it down! I'll be flying up there in a few hours actually.

Line up and wait
Decend to 8000ft when ready.
Checking in with the current weather with center instead of Approach er...I mean terminal.

Some of their approach charts look funky also. NBD approaches are going strong up there!

Doug Taylor · October 1st, 2009, 11:19

Gander...

Jpax · October 1st, 2009, 12:54

Canada, eh?

Baronman · October 1st, 2009, 13:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by zmiller4

Tim Horton's is better than anything down here except Dunkin Donuts. I've never seen a DD in an airport, though, and there's like 5 Horton's in every Canadia aerodrome.

You should here some of the terminology/accents in the Caribbean.

ding ding ding! We have a winner.

S.T.Aviator · October 1st, 2009, 13:57

Tim Hortons has crossed over to WNY as well.
The Canadian military has a Tim Hortons
trailer in Afghanistan!

Toria · October 1st, 2009, 14:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrivc211

I was just curious why there were such differences.

It is like a Mormon family living next door to the Osbournes.

Of course there will be differences.

O Canada! Our home and native land
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise
The true north, strong and free
From far and wide, O Canada
We stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free
O Canada! We stand on guard for thee
O Canada! We stand on guard for thee.

cmill · October 1st, 2009, 14:42

yeah, its a beer truck, I can drive a beer truck.

Roger, Roger · October 1st, 2009, 15:12

It's Canada.....on strike!

Cptnchia · October 1st, 2009, 17:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by zmiller4

I've never seen a DD in an airport,

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuckingfk

PHL RSW MIA FLL

I'm sure there are a few others with DD inside the terminal.

ATL Concourse A. Best use of retail space besides Popeye's since Mo' Better Chicken closed.

"Wha yo wan Babee?"

EDIT: Terminal 3 in JFK has one also.

mrivc211 · October 1st, 2009, 18:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by zmiller4

I've never seen a DD in an airport, though, .

Come to SNA, you'll see plenty of DD's

.

September 30th, 2009, 22:26	#1
mrivc211 Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: USA Posts: 2,492 Blog Entries: 1	Canadian-isms So what gives? Why is there different terms between the US and CA? Line up and wait vs position and hold thats correct vs nothing cleared to 9000 vs descend and maintain 9000 and why the heck does it always sound like ya'll are talking from a bi-plane? ps. whats the hoopla over Tim Hortons? lol

September 30th, 2009, 23:37	#2
BobDDuck Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Left Seat Posts: 7,047	Re: Canadian-isms And god forbid you call it a ramp in Toronto. The controller wouldn't answer me until I said "Apron Control". Ah, I miss flying to the woolly white north. __________________ The Gear Monkey The Gear Monkey Store

October 1st, 2009, 01:01	#5
zmiller4 Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,703	Re: Canadian-isms Tim Horton's is better than anything down here except Dunkin Donuts. I've never seen a DD in an airport, though, and there's like 5 Horton's in every Canadia aerodrome. You should here some of the terminology/accents in the Caribbean. __________________

October 1st, 2009, 05:45	#14
rjmore Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 458	Re: Canadian-isms When in Rome er...Canada...do as the Canadians do it. It's their country and they can do it however they want. It's up to you to conform to the country you're flying in not the other way around. If you don't like it, work for a company that doesn't leave the CONUS.

October 1st, 2009, 11:09	#16
KLB Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: DFW Posts: 4,437	Re: Canadian-isms I flown up there so much that I've gotten it down! I'll be flying up there in a few hours actually. Line up and wait Decend to 8000ft when ready. Checking in with the current weather with center instead of Approach er...I mean terminal. Some of their approach charts look funky also. NBD approaches are going strong up there! __________________ "Never miss a good chance to shut up!" ATP ASEL AMEL CFI CFII MEI Single Pilot Part 135 Freight Current SA227 and BE99 Former Chieftan 2100+ TT B.S. Commercial Aviation: Flight Operations

October 1st, 2009, 11:19	#17
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 50,368 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Canadian-isms Gander... __________________ Doug Taylor PPL-SEL PA-38 Typed

October 1st, 2009, 12:54	#18
Jpax Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: BLM & MLB Posts: 223	Re: Canadian-isms Canada, eh? __________________ "Let me introduce myself to you, my name is pilot, I'm a pilot, that's what I do. You can ask me lots of questions about that, if you want to, oh yeah!" --The Jet Pilot Song

October 1st, 2009, 13:57	#20
S.T.Aviator Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Western New York Posts: 611	Re: Canadian-isms Tim Hortons has crossed over to WNY as well. The Canadian military has a Tim Hortons trailer in Afghanistan! Last edited by S.T.Aviator; October 1st, 2009 at 13:59.

October 1st, 2009, 14:42	#22
cmill Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: DFdub Posts: 239	Re: Canadian-isms yeah, its a beer truck, I can drive a beer truck.

October 1st, 2009, 15:12	#23
Roger, Roger Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Lone Star Executive Posts: 2,642	Re: Canadian-isms It's Canada.....on strike! __________________ Current A&P. Occasional CFI. Still wannabe Freight Dog.

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