Canadian-isms

[Table Two]

It always sounds like they are talking into a Dixie cup, just like ORF approach. Maybe its one of those David Clark headsets with the protective cup looking microphone?

[BobDDuck]

Originally Posted by Cptnchia

ATL Concourse A. Best use of retail space besides Popeye's since Mo' Better Chicken closed.

"Wha yo wan Babee?"

First time I went to Popeye's in (I think) B Concourse the gal behind the counter said something like "bo wa yu wa?" Thank god the ASA captain behind me in line translated for me.

[Douglas]

How about crossing the boarder back into the US at 6-9,000 feet and Canadian Center telling you that Cleveland can't see you on their radar yet. Wat?
And here I thought Drug smugglers had to fly at tree top level.

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- Radar Identified.
- Cleared off enroute frequency.

And the lack of tell you to contact departure. :radar:

[n6149s]

Originally Posted by Jpax

Canada, eh?

aye?

[HeimerPilot]

Originally Posted by RobertB

I will never say that crap... Position and hold works just fine as does measuring everything in feet and miles.

The metric system is the tool of the devil! My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead, and thats the way I likes it!

[canadian_atc]

Originally Posted by mrivc211

So what gives? Why is there different terms between the US and CA?

Line up and wait vs position and hold

thats correct vs nothing

cleared to 9000 vs descend and maintain 9000

and why the heck does it always sound like ya'll are talking from a bi-plane?

ps. whats the hoopla over Tim Hortons? lol

Alright lemme clarify a few things.

The "correct" phraseology in Canada is (for each example)

"Line Up and Wait" This is an ICAO standard, and met resistance, but is the phraseology that's supposed to be in use in Canada, and according to ICAO and NavCanada the world over?

"That's Correct" Um... well as I've stated before we have to by our rules acknowledge a readback, it's a layer of safety... but "That's Correct" isn't "Correct" phraseology really, "Roger" (Hence the Roger fights of great fame)

"Cleared to 9000" This is old phraseology, we're not supposed to say this anymore either unless I missed a memo, but it's supposed to be "Descend to 9,000 or Climb to flight level 3 5 0"

On the note about the bad radios, please for GOD SAKE write somebody at NavCanada and KEEP writing. We know the radios are terrible but they still work well enough I guess?? A few hundred pilots writing to complain about the "service" (ATC in Canada is a public company serving customers don't forget)

On the note about Tim Hortons.... well I think enough's been said but man I gotta add that it's 0447 right now, and I'm almost out the door to work, and without my Large One and One with Milk Tim Hortons Crac...er coffee my day would not start... it gives you horrid gut rot for the first 5-10 times you drink it, after that the cocaine they mix in with the sugar starts to give you the addicition you just can't shake.

I don't even know why these people advertise, from 6AM-10AM any morning of the week at ANY Tim Hortons in the Country, there's a line-up of 15-20 cars constantly in the drive-thru, not to mention try taking a morning flight at any Airport in Canada and getting a muffin and a coffee a make your flight.

My advice to you is not to drink it, you'll become addicted and you will be saying "Aboot" "Eh?" and "THAT WAS ICING YA HOSER!".

[ChasenSFO]

Originally Posted by RobertB

I will never say that crap... Position and hold works just fine as does measuring everything in feet and miles.

Hell Yeah!

[S.T.Aviator]

[S.T.Aviator]

Originally Posted by canadian_atc

On the note about Tim Hortons.... well I think enough's been said but man I gotta add that it's 0447 right now, and I'm almost out the door to work, and without my Large One and One with Milk Tim Hortons Crac...er coffee my day would not start... it gives you horrid gut rot for the first 5-10 times you drink it, after that the cocaine they mix in with the sugar starts to give you the addicition you just can't shake.

I don't even know why these people advertise, from 6AM-10AM any morning of the week at ANY Tim Hortons in the Country, there's a line-up of 15-20 cars constantly in the drive-thru, not to mention try taking a morning flight at any Airport in Canada and getting a muffin and a coffee a make your flight.

My advice to you is not to drink it, you'll become addicted and you will be saying "Aboot" "Eh?" and "THAT WAS ICING YA HOSER!".

So true about it being addictive. Rumor has it that the cups are lined with an addictive substance in the wax cuz no one can really explain the phenomena.
I used to live in Southern Ontario and yes those line up's at the drive through's were ridiculous. You used to be able to pick up a franchise for a couple hundred thousand dolars but now it's well over the mill mark with a huge waiting list.
Oh well, Gretzky and Tim Hortons, that's what we're known for!

[bksslc]

Originally Posted by Toria

It is like a Mormon family living next door to the Osbournes.

Of course there will be differences.

[Old Pete]

Originally Posted by Toria

It is like a Mormon family living next door to the Osbournes.

Of course there will be differences.

You know, if Canadians would just try a little harder to assimilate...

O Canada! Our home and native land
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise
The true north, strong and free
From far and wide, O Canada
We stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free
O Canada! We stand on guard for thee
O Canada! We stand on guard for thee.

Every time I hear that being sung, I think it sounds more like a dirge than a National Anthem. Come on, pick up the pace.

[mrivc211]

Thats correct. Thats correct. Thats correct. Thats correct. Thats Correct.

[OhioStatePilot]

I have a feeling someone's going to hate me for this, but I don't like Tim Horton's. I don't like the pastries or their coffee. Neither's very addictive to me!

[The G-Man]

Originally Posted by stuckingfk

PHL RSW MIA FLL

I'm sure there are a few others with DD inside the terminal.

Seen them in LGA and EWR too.

[PA44-LUV]

So why didn't ICAO make holding patterns termed "waiting patterns."

"Line up and wait" just sounds, so,

[canadian_atc]

I don't understand what's hard about "position and hold" either, but who knows... they put "Kick in those spurs, and slap that ass on up to Flight Level 350" into our manuals I'll say it. We don't have much choice in the matter once it gets into our "MANOPS"

[Doug Taylor]

Hey, what did you think about Delta 99 asking for PVD when he first entered your airspace?

[mrivc211]

Originally Posted by OhioStatePilot

I have a feeling someone's going to hate me for this, but I don't like Tim Horton's. I don't like the pastries or their coffee. Neither's very addictive to me!

Its way better than starbucks. I loved Deidrich's stuff until the evil starbucks bought them out.

[gne in prog]

Gander.

[Firebird2XC]

I remember my first time getting taxi instructions to de-ice in Montreal.

"Taxi to Say and call Iceman"..

Er.. "Taxi to say.. Say what?"

"Taxi via Say."

I have no idea how to spell it, but the controller was using the French word for the letter 'S', aka 'Sierra'.

If she just went ICAO standard, I'd have understood her. She got testy that I don't speak French. I resisted the urge to laugh at her.

[canadian_atc]

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Hey, what did you think about Delta 99 asking for PVD when he first entered your airspace?

I thought (as it often happens)

"He doesn't think controllers talk to each other"

In fact on more than one occasion a pilot would request something with one controller, be denied, then on check-in with me request it again

"United 123, he's sitting right beside me you know?"

[canadian_atc]

Originally Posted by Firebird2XC

I remember my first time getting taxi instructions to de-ice in Montreal.

"Taxi to Say and call Iceman"..

Er.. "Taxi to say.. Say what?"

"Taxi via Say."

I have no idea how to spell it, but the controller was using the French word for the letter 'S', aka 'Sierra'.

If she just went ICAO standard, I'd have understood her. She got testy that I don't speak French. I resisted the urge to laugh at her.

Possibly a trainee, but there's no excuse for anything but english on the frequency IMO.

[Doug Taylor]

I know the guy too, that's the funny part. I'm going to give him crap tomorrow when I go to work.

"There he goes, asking the woman that just worked the previous frequency!"

I'm working 80 on tuesday if you're around!

[canadian_atc]

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

I know the guy too, that's the funny part. I'm going to give him crap tomorrow when I go to work.

"There he goes, asking the woman that just worked the previous frequency!"

I'm working 80 on tuesday if you're around!

I won't be on tommorow, I am working tonight actually in an hour and a half, midnight overtime (nothing like getting paid double time to watch the frieght jockeys and the "Tel-Aviv's" fly along)

[Doug Taylor]

Cool!

Ok, 81 on the 9th if you're around!

I'll uhh, be asking for direct to TRAIT when handed off from Gander Center!