Cleared to Land, Runway 19L. - Page 2

cloudman · May 26th, 2009, 21:06

Re: Cleared to Land, Runway 19L.
Quote:
Originally Posted by N519AT

I've always been taught that your way is correct. The other guy's way opens the door up to a whole slew of other problems (landing on the wrong runway, to name one) , because there's no redundancy in the readback.

As a 121 guy, I have to agree. I read back everything, unless told to respond with a callsign only. Why? I want it on the tape. It's a CYA both for the controller and me to catch any discrepencies. If people think it's too anal, too bad.

I have to agree, it covers everyone.

Maximillian_Jenius · May 26th, 2009, 21:27

. . .why do alot of 121 guys/gals simply key the mike twice as a sign of compliance!

genot · May 26th, 2009, 23:46

This reminds me of a funny exchange I had not long ago. 2 airplanes on freq a PC12 and an MD80 late one dead weekend night. "Hey approach, question if you have time (no callsign given)" Me: "XYZ1234 go ahead" XYZ1234 "Yeah I was just wondering if...wait, how'd you know it was me?" Me: "XYZ1234 I've got two airplanes, a PC12 and an MD80 on frequency and you don't sound like there is a prop in front of you". Moments later with a funny sound in the background and this time a different voice "Approach are you showing any weather on our route?" Me: "Negative XYZ1234". XYZ1234 "Howd you know it was me?" Me: "The PC12 pilot is a woman sir, by the way what was that funny sound in the background?" XYZ1234 "I put my FO to work." Thats when I realized the funny sound was a person flapping their lips imitating a prop spinning.

braunpilot · May 27th, 2009, 10:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by genot

This reminds me of a funny exchange I had not long ago. 2 airplanes on freq a PC12 and an MD80 late one dead weekend night. "Hey approach, question if you have time (no callsign given)" Me: "XYZ1234 go ahead" XYZ1234 "Yeah I was just wondering if...wait, how'd you know it was me?" Me: "XYZ1234 I've got two airplanes, a PC12 and an MD80 on frequency and you don't sound like there is a prop in front of you". Moments later with a funny sound in the background and this time a different voice "Approach are you showing any weather on our route?" Me: "Negative XYZ1234". XYZ1234 "Howd you know it was me?" Me: "The PC12 pilot is a woman sir, by the way what was that funny sound in the background?" XYZ1234 "I put my FO to work." Thats when I realized the funny sound was a person flapping their lips imitating a prop spinning.

That's awesome!

kosmotheoria · June 16th, 2009, 04:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClearedToTakeoff

Am I in the wrong? I just feel that at a training airport more positive confirmation on what is to be performed the better, since it's not just the pilots that might make a mistake, but also the training contollers. But I've now been dragged in twice by this gentleman in about 6 weeks about my students radio technique.

Sounds like he doesn't like the check/double check procedures, either. I wonder if he'll be dragging you in next week to ask you why your students are walking around the plane and inspecting it before they fly.

Table Two · June 16th, 2009, 08:45

Read back all hold short instructions and runway assignments. Advise on initial contact you have information Delta.

swinte00 · June 16th, 2009, 17:08

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Originally Posted by Table Two

Read back all hold short instructions and runway assignments. Advise on initial contact you have information Delta.

Your avatar makes me want to punch myself in the face

May 26th, 2009, 21:06	#26
cloudman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 327	Re: Cleared to Land, Runway 19L. Re: Cleared to Land, Runway 19L. Quote: Originally Posted by N519AT I've always been taught that your way is correct. The other guy's way opens the door up to a whole slew of other problems (landing on the wrong runway, to name one) , because there's no redundancy in the readback. As a 121 guy, I have to agree. I read back everything, unless told to respond with a callsign only. Why? I want it on the tape. It's a CYA both for the controller and me to catch any discrepencies. If people think it's too anal, too bad. I have to agree, it covers everyone. __________________

May 26th, 2009, 21:27	#27
Maximillian_Jenius Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: KPHX, KFFZ, KIWA Posts: 21,864	Re: Cleared to Land, Runway 19L. . . .why do alot of 121 guys/gals simply key the mike twice as a sign of compliance! __________________ Rear Admiral www.gayviator.com Maximillian Pegasus

May 26th, 2009, 23:46	#28
genot Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 84	Re: Cleared to Land, Runway 19L. This reminds me of a funny exchange I had not long ago. 2 airplanes on freq a PC12 and an MD80 late one dead weekend night. "Hey approach, question if you have time (no callsign given)" Me: "XYZ1234 go ahead" XYZ1234 "Yeah I was just wondering if...wait, how'd you know it was me?" Me: "XYZ1234 I've got two airplanes, a PC12 and an MD80 on frequency and you don't sound like there is a prop in front of you". Moments later with a funny sound in the background and this time a different voice "Approach are you showing any weather on our route?" Me: "Negative XYZ1234". XYZ1234 "Howd you know it was me?" Me: "The PC12 pilot is a woman sir, by the way what was that funny sound in the background?" XYZ1234 "I put my FO to work." Thats when I realized the funny sound was a person flapping their lips imitating a prop spinning.

June 16th, 2009, 08:45	#31
Table Two Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Killadelphia Posts: 73	Re: Cleared to Land, Runway 19L. Read back all hold short instructions and runway assignments. Advise on initial contact you have information Delta.

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