MAALS intersection

Orange Anchor · June 6th, 2008, 17:50

Yesterday coming of KTEB, we get a re-route. TEB 5 dept to ELIOT and then ETX and then the MAALS intersection. We try to load the FMS. No MAALS. I return to CLR and ask for spelling of intersection. Mike alpha alpha lima sierra. FMS still won't take it. Checking the chart HIGH and LOW, NO MAALS. Nothing even close to MAALS.

Back to CLR and they say it is ETX 249/31. We check and find SUZIE and it is a JET ROUTE but nothing at 31 DME. We use an alternate method in the FMS and load the definition (ETX 249/31) but later checking the nav data base at a few flight planning sites, no MAALS.

So, the question is where did MAALS come from?

nathanw · June 6th, 2008, 18:05

I found it on H-10 chart on J80 (ETX to KIPPI) 16nm SW of SUZIE (31 from ETX, as stated)

nathanw · June 6th, 2008, 18:09

Check the date on your chart... new H10 (& H12) effective 5 June 2008.

upstateNY · June 7th, 2008, 07:16

According to www.fltplan.com...

Fix Name: MAALS
Identifier: MAALS
Lat/Long: 40-19-18.860N / 076-16-10.800W
State Name: PENNSYLVANIA
Fix Category: Civil
Charts: ENROUTE HIGH
Fix/Rad/Dist:
ETX/249.12/31

Fix Use: REP-PT
ARTCC: ZNY
Pitch: No
Catch: No

Orange Anchor · June 7th, 2008, 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by nathanw

I found it on H-10 chart on J80 (ETX to KIPPI) 16nm SW of SUZIE (31 from ETX, as stated)

Must be new.. not in our FMS database but we were able to build it once we got the definition.

Thanks

AUPilotAU · June 7th, 2008, 22:58

Well...it's in my Flight Simulator FMS for the PSS which has been out of business for a while now...so who knows

Cptnchia · June 7th, 2008, 23:13

I've seen it on a SID for EWR, LGA, or JFK. I just can't remember which.

Fox Xray · June 8th, 2008, 09:48

FYI - June 5th had a big update as far as waypoints, routes, etc. Oceanic saw a huge change going to RNP10, I think the dual J80 was just published as well.

Orange Anchor · June 8th, 2008, 11:51

Interesting also that the intersection does show up on some on-line nav sites but not on others.

Word of caution and that is that MAULL is also in the area and one could be tempted to put that one in. On that same flight, we were cleared to another fix and our FMC said we would exhaust all fuel. ??? Two similar sounding intersections and the controller had misspelled it. BUBAA and BUBBA. The latter is, as one would expect, in South Carolina. The one we needed was the first one.

Fly and learn...

June 6th, 2008, 17:50	#1
Orange Anchor Old Skool Join Date: May 2008 Location: ATL Posts: 2,335	MAALS intersection Yesterday coming of KTEB, we get a re-route. TEB 5 dept to ELIOT and then ETX and then the MAALS intersection. We try to load the FMS. No MAALS. I return to CLR and ask for spelling of intersection. Mike alpha alpha lima sierra. FMS still won't take it. Checking the chart HIGH and LOW, NO MAALS. Nothing even close to MAALS. Back to CLR and they say it is ETX 249/31. We check and find SUZIE and it is a JET ROUTE but nothing at 31 DME. We use an alternate method in the FMS and load the definition (ETX 249/31) but later checking the nav data base at a few flight planning sites, no MAALS. So, the question is where did MAALS come from? __________________ Nobody told me there'd be days like this... strange days indeed! Strange days indeed!

June 6th, 2008, 18:05	#2
nathanw Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SEA Posts: 1,220	Re: MAALS intersection I found it on H-10 chart on J80 (ETX to KIPPI) 16nm SW of SUZIE (31 from ETX, as stated) __________________ NW Professional masticator

June 6th, 2008, 18:09	#3
nathanw Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SEA Posts: 1,220	Re: MAALS intersection Check the date on your chart... new H10 (& H12) effective 5 June 2008. __________________ NW Professional masticator

June 7th, 2008, 07:16	#4
upstateNY Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Glens Falls Posts: 76	Re: MAALS intersection According to www.fltplan.com... Fix Name: MAALS Identifier: MAALS Lat/Long: 40-19-18.860N / 076-16-10.800W State Name: PENNSYLVANIA Fix Category: Civil Charts: ENROUTE HIGH Fix/Rad/Dist: ETX/249.12/31 Fix Use: REP-PT ARTCC: ZNY Pitch: No Catch: No

June 7th, 2008, 22:58	#6
AUPilotAU Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ft. Myers, FL Posts: 170	Re: MAALS intersection Well...it's in my Flight Simulator FMS for the PSS which has been out of business for a while now...so who knows __________________ Applied: 2/2007 AT-SAT: 10/2007 Interview: 1/2008 Physical, Psyc exam, drug test, fingerprinting: 2/2008 Arrived at Academy: 4/18/2008 Departing Academy: 7/14/2008 First day at RSW: 7/21/2008

June 7th, 2008, 23:13	#7
Cptnchia Old Skool Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Mecca Posts: 1,759	Re: MAALS intersection I've seen it on a SID for EWR, LGA, or JFK. I just can't remember which. __________________ "Blew out my flip flops."

June 8th, 2008, 09:48	#8
Fox Xray ATC Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 461	Re: MAALS intersection FYI - June 5th had a big update as far as waypoints, routes, etc. Oceanic saw a huge change going to RNP10, I think the dual J80 was just published as well.

June 8th, 2008, 11:51	#9
Orange Anchor Old Skool Join Date: May 2008 Location: ATL Posts: 2,335	Re: MAALS intersection Interesting also that the intersection does show up on some on-line nav sites but not on others. Word of caution and that is that MAULL is also in the area and one could be tempted to put that one in. On that same flight, we were cleared to another fix and our FMC said we would exhaust all fuel. ??? Two similar sounding intersections and the controller had misspelled it. BUBAA and BUBBA. The latter is, as one would expect, in South Carolina. The one we needed was the first one. Fly and learn... __________________ Nobody told me there'd be days like this... strange days indeed! Strange days indeed!

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