Captain Al Haynes, United 232 Will Be In Attendance

Doug Taylor · April 15th, 2008, 23:53

Details coming up!

ILSstud · April 16th, 2008, 01:35

That is awesome! He came to my school to give a presenation. Very, very interesting.

staplegun · April 16th, 2008, 03:58

WhenI was still in the Navy Reserve Jan Brown Lohr, the Senior Flight Attendant on board, came to talk to us about that day.

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From Wikipedia:

United 232's Senior Flight Attendant. She was forced by regulation to ask parents with "lap babies" (children without seats) aboard flight 232 to place their children on the cabin floor during the flight's final moments before impact. Upon impact one of four children was killed. The deceased child's mother came to her at the crash site and stated "You told me to put my baby on the floor and now he's gone." Since then, Lohr has tirelessly lobbied in Washington D.C. to promote the safety of children on all civilian aircraft and airlines, asking that federal regulations require all children to have a seatbelt on every flight.

I'll never forget the haunted look on her face as she described the "baby-on-the-floor" incident. All because she was doing what she was trained to do...

(Kinda like the crews on 9/11 who were doing what their training told them to do...)

Kevin

MQAAord · April 16th, 2008, 12:40

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Originally Posted by staplegun

WhenI was still in the Navy Reserve Jan Brown Lohr, the Senior Flight Attendant on board, came to talk to us about that day.

I'll never forget the haunted look on her face as she described the "baby-on-the-floor" incident. All because she was doing what she was trained to do...

(Kinda like the crews on 9/11 who were doing what their training told them to do...)

Kevin

And that is part of the reason why I am so very opposed to the concept of "lap children".

sorry for the thread hijack......

ILSstud · April 17th, 2008, 02:07

I just can't understand how the FAA could have possibly believed that a human alone could restrain a child like that in the event of a potential crash situation. I mean it was common knowledge (at least I am assuming it was) that the "mother-hand-across-the-chest" during a car crash is inconsequential. Sad that it took such an event for them to realize this requirement was ridiculous. I suppose that is how the FAA usually works though..

N826AW · April 17th, 2008, 02:24

Doug, any luck on getting someone from ALPA to attend and maybe host a roundtable or do a presentation for us?

Kristie · April 17th, 2008, 12:27

We're working on getting an ALPA rep to do a roundtable.

skidz · April 17th, 2008, 12:41

Wow. that's bad azzz....

sdfcvoh · April 19th, 2008, 22:49

What, so I guess you weren't able to get Jesus.

Kristie · April 19th, 2008, 23:23

awww, we've got him scheduled for next year... we thought Capt Haynes was a little higher priority.

DE727UPS · April 19th, 2008, 23:40

What are you guys trying to do? JC used to be a nice little website. You get Capt Haynes and you'll be on par with the AOPA convention...

Congratz on going big time.

Doug Taylor · April 20th, 2008, 00:37

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Originally Posted by DE727UPS

What are you guys trying to do? JC used to be a nice little website. You get Capt Haynes and you'll be on par with the AOPA convention...

Congratz on going big time.

Trying to merge "Top Gun", "Airplane", "The Right Stuff" and "Old School" in one delicious stew!

JEP · April 20th, 2008, 01:21

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Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Trying to merge "Top Gun", "Airplane", "The Right Stuff" and "Old School" in one delicious stew!

..... And if you screw up just this much, you'll be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog #### out of Hong Kong!

Polar742 · April 20th, 2008, 01:25

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Originally Posted by JEP

..... And if you screw up just this much, you'll be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog #### out of Hong Kong!

HEY!!!! I RESEMBLE THAT REMARK.

JEP · April 20th, 2008, 01:27

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Originally Posted by Polar742

HEY!!!! I RESEMBLE THAT REMARK.

...And just a little more proof that I spend an inordinate amount of time on JC............

My first thought when posting the quote was....

Polar is going to see this and respond with...

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Why are you talkng about me....

Polar742 · April 20th, 2008, 01:32

Oh, come on.

I won't even respect you in the AM

Doug Taylor · April 20th, 2008, 01:47

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Originally Posted by Polar742

HEY!!!! I RESEMBLE THAT REMARK.

Sadly, rubber dog shizzle will pay what it costs to be transported from point-a to point-b whereas the average "joe" wants an act of congress to keep airfares artificially low! DOH!

Polar742 · April 20th, 2008, 01:53

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Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Sadly, rubber dog shizzle will pay what it costs to be transported from point-a to point-b whereas the average "joe" wants an act of congress to keep airfares artificially low! DOH!

It IS pretty sad when people will pay $14/lb for a letter, and less than that for their butt ro arrive safely.

If the gramma, spelling or typing is bad, blame Kona Longboard. I'm having a "ME" night....

Doug Taylor · April 20th, 2008, 01:56

...because if we pay the cheapest price, the government will assure our safety, right? RIGHT?

Bumblebee · April 20th, 2008, 02:48

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Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

...because if we pay the cheapest price, the government will assure our safety, right? RIGHT?

riiiight

Kristie · April 20th, 2008, 11:45

take it to a new thread boys

kellwolf · April 20th, 2008, 21:54

CRM class in upgrade focused a lot on Al Haynes. Got me pumped about going to NJC this year.

April 15th, 2008, 23:53	#1
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,236 Blog Entries: 1	Captain Al Haynes, United 232 Will Be In Attendance Details coming up! __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

April 16th, 2008, 01:35	#2
ILSstud Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 613	Re: Captain Al Haynes, United 232 Will Be In Attendance That is awesome! He came to my school to give a presenation. Very, very interesting.

April 17th, 2008, 02:07	#5
ILSstud Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 613	Re: Captain Al Haynes, United 232 Will Be In Attendance I just can't understand how the FAA could have possibly believed that a human alone could restrain a child like that in the event of a potential crash situation. I mean it was common knowledge (at least I am assuming it was) that the "mother-hand-across-the-chest" during a car crash is inconsequential. Sad that it took such an event for them to realize this requirement was ridiculous. I suppose that is how the FAA usually works though..

April 17th, 2008, 02:24	#6
N826AW Old Skool Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mesa Oeste Posts: 1,707	Re: Captain Al Haynes, United 232 Will Be In Attendance Doug, any luck on getting someone from ALPA to attend and maybe host a roundtable or do a presentation for us? __________________

April 17th, 2008, 12:27	#7
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 18,781 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Captain Al Haynes, United 232 Will Be In Attendance We're working on getting an ALPA rep to do a roundtable. __________________ Wife of a Delta B767 ER F/O jetgirls.net

April 17th, 2008, 12:41	#8
skidz Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: N'awlinz Posts: 1,804	Re: Captain Al Haynes, United 232 Will Be In Attendance Wow. that's bad azzz.... __________________ Private pilot, instrument Embry-Riddle Alumnus USN Active http://forums.jetcareers.com/changin...nfessions.html

April 19th, 2008, 22:49	#9
sdfcvoh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson Posts: 960	Re: Captain Al Haynes, United 232 Will Be In Attendance What, so I guess you weren't able to get Jesus. __________________ I want to die like my grandfather did, peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

April 19th, 2008, 23:23	#10
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 18,781 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Captain Al Haynes, United 232 Will Be In Attendance awww, we've got him scheduled for next year... we thought Capt Haynes was a little higher priority. __________________ Wife of a Delta B767 ER F/O jetgirls.net

April 19th, 2008, 23:40	#11
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,550	Re: Captain Al Haynes, United 232 Will Be In Attendance What are you guys trying to do? JC used to be a nice little website. You get Capt Haynes and you'll be on par with the AOPA convention... Congratz on going big time. __________________ Click here to see how I became a UPS pilot http://www.jetcareers.com/content/view/65/132/

April 20th, 2008, 01:32	#16
Polar742 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rockledge Posts: 1,299	Re: Captain Al Haynes, United 232 Will Be In Attendance Oh, come on. I won't even respect you in the AM __________________ Hey! It's all ball bearings nowadays. Now you prepare that Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads. - Irwin M Fletcher

April 20th, 2008, 01:56	#19
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,236 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Captain Al Haynes, United 232 Will Be In Attendance ...because if we pay the cheapest price, the government will assure our safety, right? RIGHT? __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

April 20th, 2008, 11:45	#21
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 18,781 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Captain Al Haynes, United 232 Will Be In Attendance take it to a new thread boys __________________ Wife of a Delta B767 ER F/O jetgirls.net

April 20th, 2008, 21:54	#22
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 13,879	Re: Captain Al Haynes, United 232 Will Be In Attendance CRM class in upgrade focused a lot on Al Haynes. Got me pumped about going to NJC this year. __________________ "I'm The Doctor, by the way. Run for your life!"

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