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April 1st, 2003, 16:21
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington, DC
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|  Hiring Process I was wondering exactly what impact other pilot "connections" have on your being hired. How does the process work and do pilots with higher seniority have a greater say in your being hired. Also, who does the hiring? I've heard some companies use a computer database while others have a hiring board of pilots that "flag" your application. |
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April 2nd, 2003, 16:01
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: KATL, Georgia, Tennessee
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| Re: Hiring Process I think that nothing will beat having a company pilot walk your resume in. |
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April 2nd, 2003, 16:24
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| Agent Smith  | Re: Hiring Process Whenever I dropped into Plato Rhyne's office to forward a reccomendation, he just wanted to briefly talk about the pilot, if I've flown with him and get his SSN number to flag his application in the UPAS database. Once he got flagged, in general he got a phone call a few weeks later for the interview. Pretty simple process, involved no cover letters not even a resume. When I got my pal Joe hired at Skyway, I went into the chief pilots office during one of his tirades about not being able to find pilots, dialed Joe's number and handed the chief pilot the telephone and said, "It's 5:40AM in California, he won't mind, talk to him". There is absolutely no better way of getting an interview than having a company pilot you personally know and have flown with physically walk-in your resume to the person in charge of pilot selection. Works better than career services, seminars, presentations, conventions, etc. And it's free! Well, if you don't bribe the guy with a 12-pack of Labatt's Blue Label. |
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April 3rd, 2003, 07:44
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Let me look, I forgot.
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| Re: Hiring Process Doug, I'll keep that in mind down the road...want a lifetime supply?  |
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April 4th, 2003, 00:58
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Denver, CO
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| Re: Hiring Process Hey Doug, Next time I'm in Arizona I'll be sure to stop by with a 12-pack of Labatt's Blue Label. No particular reason, just thought I might. LOL |
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April 4th, 2003, 01:00
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| Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Denver, CO
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| Re: Hiring Process Come to think of it Doug, now you'll probably end up with Labatt's Blue Label comming out you ass in short order. |
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April 4th, 2003, 16:31
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| Junior Member  Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA
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| Re: Hiring Process I'll buy you a kegorator of Sam Adams in that case. |
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April 8th, 2003, 03:26
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| Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Denver, CO
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| Re: Hiring Process Doug, don't ever invite anyone from the FAA over to your house. If you've got thousands of jetcareer guys bringing you beer, that could look disasterous to a pilot's career. Maybe you should just ask us for money...Um, I mean maybe we'll just happen to stop by and bring you money. No reason, we're just generous like that. Oh, and make sure your address book has plenty of extra paper. No reason. |
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April 13th, 2003, 22:19
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| Administrator  Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark
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| Re: Hiring Process [ QUOTE ] Ack! I don't even like Labatt's Blue Label!  However, Dos Equis lager or Samuel Adams IPA is a different story! [/ QUOTE ] How 'bout some Colt 45, like I used to pound in college? |
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April 16th, 2003, 11:53
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Santa Clarita, CA
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  | Re: Hiring Process Don't think you may be above working the line for larger FBO's. I recently decided to start working for an FBO that services mainly corporate jets, since there is more personal interaction than say a Southwest, etc and more turbo-prop, jet connections than a small FBO. A co-worker is about to get hired on with a charter company. I personnally have many corporate and charter contacts. On top of that I am known in some front offices by their chief pilots. I still have my commercial to complete and many can't wait until I get it(hopefully to hire me). Seriously, if you guys can sacrifice at $9.00 an hour for a few months to a year(depending on how you network), the line can be your ticket. |
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May 10th, 2003, 10:13
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| Old Skool  Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the O-zone
Posts: 5,807
| Re: Hiring Process I totally agree with you Doug. (commercial solicitation edited pending review) we teach the value of NEVER burning a bridge and ALWAYS maintain the networking contacts you have. There's lots more of course, but the key thing is to get a pilot you have flown with to walk in your resume. Otherwise 99% of resumes go right to the trash! |
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August 3rd, 2003, 19:49
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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| Re: Hiring Process [ QUOTE ] Gack! Hell Mike, you were too cheap for the Keystone that Joe and I would buy! "It's the can, man!" [/ QUOTE ] Keystone Ice was the drink in college! Dirt cheap and 5% alcohol per can -- more bang for your buck! |
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August 3rd, 2003, 20:53
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| Junior Member  Join Date: May 2003 Location: Northeast Philly
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| Re: Hiring Process PBR is where its at!!! (Pabst Blue Ribbon)   |
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August 4th, 2003, 14:03
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: CVG
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| Re: Hiring Process Natural Ice is way cheaper then Keystone. I remember when I was stationed in Norfolk, there was this bar, and every Monday they had $.25 drafts. Of course it was Natural Ice on tap. Can't beat that! Of course we wished it could have been on a weekend due to one hell of a hangover on Tuesday morning! |
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August 5th, 2003, 19:36
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001
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| Re: Hiring Process Milwakee's Best (aka The Beast) is about the bottom the of the cheap beer market. Only thing worse I can think of is a small Wisconsin bewery called Huber Beer. That stuff is swill....  |
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August 10th, 2003, 18:41
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| Senior Member  Join Date: May 2003 Location: Home Sweet Home!
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| Re: Hiring Process I am shocked and sorely dissapointed that such an innocent question about the hiring process so quickly turned into a discussion on Beer. I thought more of the professional pilots than what I have seen here. I think Doug should set a better example than this. NOT Put me in for a case of Yingling lager |
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August 10th, 2003, 21:48
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago
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| Re: Hiring Process As I pop an ice cold Old Milwaukee... "America's Best Tasting Beer", it says so on the can. keepin' the cheap beer network alive, Dave p.s. don't even get me started on Schlitz! |
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August 10th, 2003, 21:54
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| Old Skool Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the O-zone
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| Re: Hiring Process I've always been fond of Rolling Rock myself. We used to buy it by the case in Upsate NY. On another thought line: I did a bass guitar gig for the Hard Rock Cancun back in 1990. A whole month surrounded by spring breakers and horny mexicans. We found that Corona helped you "hold it together" a bit during attacks of Dysentery. (Famous quote from our drummer Paul: "I love the smell of dysentery in the morning.") Not a great month, BUT: I did acquire a taste for Dos Equis  "Senorita, Tres Cerveza por favor!" |
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August 11th, 2003, 10:44
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| Agent Smith | Re: Hiring Process [ QUOTE ] I did acquire a taste for Dos Equis [/ QUOTE ] Oh yes. There's always a few green-bottled Dos Equis lagers keeping themselves ice cold in the Taylor family refridgerator. Tastiest beer on earth! 9:42am in the morning and dammit you're making me jones for a brew! |
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August 11th, 2003, 11:55
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| Old Skool Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the O-zone
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| Re: Hiring Process I never developed the morning brew habit, thank God |
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August 13th, 2003, 23:00
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Northwest State of Mind, WA
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| Re: Hiring Process When i lived in Tacoma, WA one of the nastiest beers around was Ranier beer. That stuff was cheap and could gag a maggot. I used to put the finest Kamchata Vodka in it to be able to swallow that sutff down. |
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March 13th, 2005, 21:52
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ohio, no, Florida, Michigan, Atl, no, Cape Cod, LA, no I am in DC now!!!
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| Re: Hiring Process If your ever on an overnite in cincinnati... there are two great cheep beers (local brew)... "Burger Beer" thats actually the name of it. and "Hudy delight" or Hudepohl. You can get them still in some hole in the walls for less then a buck a beer. ---On the good side though - MAGIC HAT #9  |
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