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[Seggy]

When reading these boards people have two simple choices.

A) Listen to those who 'made it' and take their advice and see where their career goes...

or

B) Listen to what they want to hear from marketing departments at major flight training corporations (JetU and GIA) and see where their career goes...



Thank God I chose option 'A'

[Captain_Bob]

Don,

I see nothing wrong with the way I posted and phrased my response. Truly ,there is no reason for anyone to apologize for their opinions on here... and I'm not telling him that his opinion is "inappropriate" for the board. I simply stated that what he said "is not a direction I think this board needs to take."

Which of course... is my opinion. I'm not a moderator... I don't drive the direction of the board... I just give my opinion, experience, and advice whenever it is either asked of me or when the mood strikes me to post.

See... that's the way this board works... it's an amagulm of opinion with a good bit of fact & experience mixed in from time to time. Most times the facts favor the majority... but sometimes the facts favor the minority but the majority tend to be more vocal... either way, folks see and hear what they want to from time to time... just as you did when you thought I was telling Kell that his opinion was inappropriate for the board.

Bob

[Murdoughnut]

Originally Posted by Bandit_Driver

the same pilots that take shortcuts in their careers are the same pilots willing to work for peanuts.

Isn't any pilot who accepts a job as a regional FO admitting that they're willing to work for peanuts?

[Doug Taylor]

Originally Posted by Murdoughnut

Isn't any pilot who accepts a job as a regional FO admitting that they're willing to work for peanuts?

Honey or dry roasted. There's a difference there. Or the "party" peanuts, that's a whole different nutritional dilemma.

[BobDDuck]

I just spoke with somebody in our training department (not the guy on this board who should really be posting something in the Announcements section soon) who said we had 2 JetU guys in our latest class. Apparently they both didn't make it through training at 9E. That tells me two things. First, even with a "pre training" for training, some people still just don't have what it takes and two, this airline is so desperate it will take anybody. I don't think they are into systems yet, but he said they didn't do that great through indoc. Umm... Indoc? You talk about bloodborn pathogens and stuff like that in indoc. Very little airplane talk. How do you do bad on that sort of stuff?

[DE727UPS]

Indoc? How can you wash out of indoc? Cripes....

[Cruise]

Originally Posted by DE727UPS

Indoc? How can you wash out of indoc? Cripes....

Easy!




Yes, if you're not making it through indoc, you're certainly in for a very long difficult 'systems' road.
Or not, 'cause you aren't gonna be there long enough to find out!

[KLB]

Maybe it's because they think that since they took the JetU course, they've got it made.

[Tuckster]

You guys are very confusing .... I look at JetU as a school. They make advertising claims just like all the others. I have looked closely at several schools .... I'm looking for a school that will best prepare me for a job with a regional. To say if I can't make it without schooling to chose another profession is arrogant at best. Pinnacle has a jump start program and lists JetU as another route. Are you saying Pinnacle is a bad way to go ???There seem to be some on this topic that try and give good advice and others that have a problem with the people that are willing to spend extra $$ in schooling..... And then there are those that must have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express recently.

[FlyChicaga]

Originally Posted by Captain_Bob

Scheduling called me last night while in Tuscon... made me a deal I couldn't refuse. Fly the SMF flight back to SAT (They were missing an FO) last night and get the add-pay for the flight in addition to the rest of my 4-day dropped and pay protected...

2 extra days off... Not a bad gig...

Bob

That's funny... that was my FO who flew the airplane into SMF from ABQ. He was "stolen" because another FO was stuck in DAL trying to get to ABQ, who was supposed to fly ABQ-SMF-SAT. So you went TUS-SMF-SAT in place of him, because my original FO couldn't fly the SMF-SAT leg.



It's funny... the branded side is such a small world. I dig it.

[KLB]

I think what most people on here are trying to get you to understand is that it might be, not only a waste of money, but down right negligent.

Heres an example. AMF and Airnet operate piper chieftans. Our flows, power settings, profiles and etc... are totally different even though we fly the same aircraft. If I went over to Airnet and started there training, I might have a tougher time learning to fly the chieftan "the airnet way". By learning to fly an RJ the JetU way, you might screw up trying to fly the plane the XXX airlines way in training.

I wouldn't waste my money on those programs. XXX airlines will have a specific way the will want you to learn and do things. You have to have faith in there training process. I am 99 percent sure that if you go into training with a positive attitude, good basic IFR skills, good knowledge of things that you should already know before getting there, and good study habits...you will be alright.

Oh and its always good to have sharp study buddys.

[Captain_Bob]

Originally Posted by FlyChicaga

It's funny... the branded side is such a small world. I dig it.

LOL! That is funny... That's twice now that you and I have been seperated by less than 6 degrees on the branded side!

Bob

[montanapilot]

Originally Posted by Tuckster

You guys are very confusing .... I look at JetU as a school. They make advertising claims just like all the others. I have looked closely at several schools .... I'm looking for a school that will best prepare me for a job with a regional. To say if I can't make it without schooling to chose another profession is arrogant at best. Pinnacle has a jump start program and lists JetU as another route. Are you saying Pinnacle is a bad way to go ???There seem to be some on this topic that try and give good advice and others that have a problem with the people that are willing to spend extra $$ in schooling..... And then there are those that must have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express recently.

why don't you help yourself by studying and working hard rather than expecting some school to hold your hand. most of the people on this board never had any of this "CRJ snakeoil" or "work the streetcorner for an ERJ" programs and they made it just fine. But in the words of PT Barnum "Theres a sucker born every minute"

[Doug Taylor]

I went from experienced to hilarious! That, in itself, IS hilarious!

[Tuckster]

I wouldn't waste my money on those programs. XXX airlines will have a specific way the will want you to learn and do things. You have to have faith in there training process. I am 99 percent sure that if you go into training with a positive attitude, good basic IFR skills, good knowledge of things that you should already know before getting there, and good study habits...you will be alright.

Oh and its always good to have sharp study buddys.[/quote]


Study buddys is another positive to a school however I do see what you're saying about specific info and basics. Maybe if I just invest in study materials and a sim that will help me learn the glass cockpit & FMS etc. I'm just real uncomfortable going from an older Seneca to all this new stuff. I want to go into company training as prepared as possible.

[Doug Taylor]

To be really honest, if I went to an American Airlines MD-80 school before I went to a Southernjets Inannashnul MD-88 school (they're both DC-9's), I'm not sure if it would have been an advantage worth spending thousands of dollars on.

Different airlines fly the same aircraft different ways and look at systems, memorization items and procedures different ways.

By all means, do what you want, but be cognizant that you may have to spend as much time learning systems than you're spending "unlearning" the way a specific course taught.

I learned that the hard way when I tried to learn an American Airlines 727 manual before Southernjets 727 initial. Actually, in some respects, did more harm than good.

[GlenWimpy]

Pinnacle , has JetU listed on there website as a flight school bridge for Pinnacle Airlines , that being the case , I would assume , that JetU s training is somewhat in Line with Pinnacle.

[Doug Taylor]

-2 points for using the word "assume" with anything involving aviation and money.

But have fun. Seriously. I wouldn't do it but knock yourself out!

Matter of fact, pay me 1/2 of what you're going to pay, I'll let you sit down with a real Pinnacle pilot and real guaranteed manuals. Then you win and I win too.

[Captain_Bob]

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Matter of fact, pay me 1/2 of what you're going to pay, I'll let you sit down with a real Pinnacle pilot and real guaranteed manuals. Then you win and I win too.

Trying to nudge in on Kellwolf's turf I see!

Originally Posted by kellwolf

If you feel like you still need it. Don't make them fat on cash....give it to me. I'll teach it.

[MusketeerMan]

Originally Posted by Captain_Bob

I was earlier this morning...

Right now I'm at AA Gate 37 in SAT... trying to get on the FLT 1072 home to DFW... 30 standby's and 2 AA pilots/jumpseaters in the wings... not looking good since the MD80 only has 1 JS.

Well... there's always the 7:10am, 8:00am, 9:10am, 10:00am, etc...

Scheduling called me last night while in Tuscon... made me a deal I couldn't refuse. Fly the SMF flight back to SAT (They were missing an FO) last night and get the add-pay for the flight in addition to the rest of my 4-day dropped and pay protected...

2 extra days off... Not a bad gig...



Bob

Bob-

SMF as in Sacramento?? If you ever have a trip here...I demand you let me know so I can buy you a cold one!!! I'd love to pick your brain for an hour!!

MM

OK...hijack over.

[Ian J]

Originally Posted by GlenWimpy

Pinnacle , has JetU listed on there website as a flight school bridge for Pinnacle Airlines , that being the case , I would assume , that JetU s training is somewhat in Line with Pinnacle.

I tend to go with the experts. If a majority of major and regional pilots currently in the biz tell me something, I'll tend to give it some consideration.

[Captain_Bob]

Originally Posted by MusketeerMan

Bob-

SMF as in Sacramento?? If you ever have a trip here...I demand you let me know so I can buy you a cold one!!! I'd love to pick your brain for an hour!!

MM

OK...hijack over.

I'm actually there quite a bit... I'll have to remember to let you know!! I'm just always looking for a reason to get my fix of "The Govenator" Bobbleheads, T-shirts, & mugs at the SMF gift shops!

Bob

[KLB]

Originally Posted by Ian J

I tend to go with the experts. If a majority of major and regional pilots currently in the biz tell me something, I'll tend to give it some consideration.

Don't forget freight pilots. OOTSK

[kellwolf]

Bob, I don't consider ATP or JetU PFJ. In fact, my post says I DON'T put them in the same realm as GIA. They're schools just like most schools, I just don't agree with their marketing.

I still stand by my statement that if you don't have the confidence that you can make it through an airline ground school without doing a pre-ground school, you probably don't belong there. I don't see anyone lining up to sign a deal with XJT to give people a copy of their ground school, and people are getting through training just fine there.....and just about every other airline out there. In fact, our washout rate has actually gone UP in recent months.

[Captain_Bob]

Originally Posted by kellwolf

Bob, I don't consider ATP or JetU PFJ. In fact, my post says I DON'T put them in the same realm as GIA. They're schools just like most schools, I just don't agree with their marketing.

Kell,

I guess I misunderstood this statement...

Originally Posted by kellwolf

Okay, here's my take. I don't put JetU in the same boat as GIA since you're not buying a job off a guy who should be paid for it. Sorry, Bob. I DO put ATP in with them.

I'd be more worried about Dough cashing in your your personal CRJ school offers!

Bob