Random Question

[mdc92003]

Is it true that the flight training earned in the USAF does not earn FAA Ratings??? I have heard you do in the Navy and Army but the not the AF. Just a random question, thought someone may know. Thanks.

[USMCmech]

Originally Posted by mdc92003

Is it true that the flight training earned in the USAF does not earn FAA Ratings??? I have heard you do in the Navy and Army but the not the AF. Just a random question, thought someone may know. Thanks.

Not automaticly, in any of the branches.

Once you have been "winged" you can take a test and you will be given a Comercial certificate in the appropriate catagory and class of aircraft.

[fish314]

Originally Posted by USMCmech

Not automaticly, in any of the branches.

Once you have been "winged" you can take a test and you will be given a Comercial certificate in the appropriate catagory and class of aircraft.

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The test is the MCA (military competency-aircraft) or the MCH (military competency-helicopter). I took it about 5 years ago or so, and it was really easy. I think I studied a couple of hours over the course of a weekend and took it monday morning, and aced it in about 10 minutes.

Anyhow, you take the test and you get your commercial, multi-engine license and your instrument rating (for Air Force UPT, anyway). You will also get a type rating in the Beech 400 and the Mitsubishi Diamond Jet if you take it right out of UPT and you went T-1 track. If you take it from the C-12/T44 track I think you will get typed in King Airs, but I'm not entirely sure about that. If you go -38 track you will also be commercial multiengine, but it will be centerline thrust limited. Not sure about a type rating for those guys, either.

I waited a couple of years until I was in the KC-135 and my T-1 stuff was no longer valid, so I got my type in the B-707 when I did mine.

No matter what, you'll still need to get a single-engine add-on or get transfered to a single engine aircraft if you want to fly single engine airplanes on the civilian side.

BTW, there is also a new rule which lets us military instructor-types take a second "military equivalency" test and get your CFI, CFII, and MEI tickets, but I haven't done that one yet... so no intel.

[USMCmech]

Originally Posted by fish314

No matter what, you'll still need to get a single-engine add-on or get transfered to a single engine aircraft if you want to fly single engine airplanes on the civilian side.

A few years back a retired O-5 B-1 pilot applied for a job at Martinaire. He didn't understand why he was unqualified to fly the Caravan.

[rpfeif]

And just to confirm, the hours accumulated in the military don't count in the civilian world to towards ratings (ATP, part 135 min.), right?

[MDPilot]

Originally Posted by rpfeif

And just to confirm, the hours accumulated in the military don't count in the civilian world to towards ratings (ATP, part 135 min.), right?

Wrong