Back from Air Force Basic Training!

Kato · November 8th, 2003, 22:32

Hey all, Just wanted to drop a line and say what a relief it is to be back in the real world! I've spent the last 6.5 weeks at Lackland AFB in San Antonio Texas for BMT. For all those that dont know, AF basic training is not too tough, just a constant headache. Anyway, I don't go to loadmaster school for another couple of months, so I get to enjoy some home cooked meals and waste time on this site for a while!

Take care everybody,

Kato

shooter13 · November 8th, 2003, 22:51

Its only 6.5 weeks? Wow! Congrats. Wecome back.

JEP · November 9th, 2003, 07:56

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so I get to enjoy some home cooked meals and waste time on this site for a while!

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Doug is not going to be happy with that statement. I would hope that you were being sarcastic, but if you cannot learn something from this site, something must be wrong. If one finds it a waste, then why stop and look.

Anyway, enjoy those homecooked meals.

viper548 · November 9th, 2003, 14:33

What plane are you gonna be on? I'm a C-5 loadmaster at Travis.

Kato · November 10th, 2003, 01:29

fly4free,

Relax bud, I was being sarcastic. You are right, this is a wonderful site with a lot of valuable information.

viper548,

I will be on the C-130 down at Channel Islands. How long have you been a load?

viper548 · November 10th, 2003, 01:59

4 years. It's one of the best enlisted jobs. Even as an airman people listen to what you say. Not many jobs get that kind of respect. Trips are awesome. The more countries you go to, the more you will realize how awesome this country is. C-130's a good plane. It must be nice to be able to load the plane from one K-loader. It takes 6 to load the c-5 full of pallets.

Hootie · November 10th, 2003, 16:47

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so I get to enjoy some home cooked meals and waste time on this site for a while!

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Doug is not going to be happy with that statement. I would hope that you were being sarcastic, but if you cannot learn something from this site, something must be wrong. If one finds it a waste, then why stop and look.

Anyway, enjoy those homecooked meals.

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Oh man! fly4free, don't forget to mention that you are a dork.

Congrats Kato! I was supposed to leave this wednesday for lackland but I will be having surgury instead to reattach the ulner nerve in my left elbow. Yeah the dates people weren't too happy that I waited 3 months to get looked at because I hate going to the doctor. How much sleep did you average a night?

And viper do you still have all your fingers? how about the guys in your unit? That might just be some made up bs that gets thrown out there (loads losing fingers) but I was wondering if that is true? Also could you tell me what a flying crew chiefs duties are during flight (if any)?

Kato · November 10th, 2003, 18:15

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How much sleep did you average a night?

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"lights out" was scheduled for 2100 during the week and 2200 for the weekend, and we were supposed to wake up every morning at 0430. Seems like we normally woke up at 0400 unless of course we had details like "kp duty" - then we were up at 0230! We managed to lose sleep almost every other night but you will never EVER make it up. It's not that bad, you will become fully adjusted to the schedule after the first week. Any Idea on when you leave now?

ShoreFly · November 10th, 2003, 18:45

Hootie,

As for the flying crew chief question, they have no inflight duties (except for sleeping), on the KC-10 and KC-135. There are a few that are certified to be passenger handlers, but it's like being an underqualified flight attendant.

viper548 · November 11th, 2003, 00:20

Loads losing fingers? I haven't heard of any. They make us take off all rings and jewlery before going on the plane. I hear that once a guy fell, the ring got caught on something and ripped the finger off. I dont know of any loads getting hurt since I came in. I hear it's the crew chiefs that die on the jets. A C-5 at dover is supposedly haunted by a crew chief that died on the plane (don't know how). There are many stories of strange stuff happening in that plane such as an APU starting itself. A guy died in a fuel tank he was fixing. They are supposed to go in pairs, he went by himself, got knocked out by the fumes. The found the body after he clogged a fuel line in flight. A guy fell down the stairs and died, on the C5 that's about 15 feet. I hit my head on a piece of cargo and had to get 2 medical staples. BE CAREFUL ON THE PLANE!!

Hootie · November 11th, 2003, 10:20

I love how military people make up all sorts of crazy bull#### about other jets and jobs. I was under the impression that loads are half crazy with all sorts of missing extremities. Like caged freaks that are locked up permanently in the back of a cargo jet. I think I would have really liked to be a load or a boom but those type units are an extra 3 hours over my 2 hour (not bad at all) viper commute. But I like the crew chiefs and we have awesome 1992-93 block 42 vipers that we have owned since birth and I love the unit. But you are right about crew chiefs getting killed. I was out around the jet last drill and they were showing me how to change a tire and they were saying how it can kill you if you aren't careful. I wasn't too sure I believed them so they take me inside and go to some dod network webpage on how to kill yourself around the jet and sure enough , graphic pics of some dude split in half by a tire rim coming off like a sidewinder. crazy.

JEP · November 11th, 2003, 11:24

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Oh man! fly4free, don't forget to mention that you are a dork.

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Someone is showing there age... What are you 17 or 18?. I used to hear that in high school.

Well excuse me ! I am not the one that made the comment about wasting time. Like I said, I would hope that you are being sarcastic. but one would not know without leaving some sarcastic tags. Like I said the first time, if you feel like you are wasting time, then don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Herkyload1 · November 11th, 2003, 20:55

Congrats on finishing basic.
Have fun at the 'Rock, I know quite a few of the guys at the School House. One of the IL's was at the Island's Guard for a while. Enjoy your time flying on the E's at school, you'll enjoy those J's a little better!

Praise The Load!

CaptainMatt · November 11th, 2003, 22:03

I live 20 minutes south from Channel Islands...I know someone that is a Loader with them that came from moorpark. His name is Brett.

Kato · November 11th, 2003, 23:16

Thanks Herkyload1, I heard that tech school should be a good time. Although I am pretty excited to get all the training over with and to get out into the operation. It will probably be some time until I get to fly on the 'J' ( being the new guy and all) - it also doesn't help that we will be in transition from the 'E' to 'J' until at least 2008.
How's the life of a loadmaster treating you?

CaptainMatt,

I might know who that is - I am not yet on a "first name" basis with all the guys there. Soon though. He is not in Iraq is he?

CaptainMatt · November 12th, 2003, 20:32

Not sure...He went to basic training last december and then headed to tech school after that...I have no Idea where he is...The last I heard from him was last Dec.

Avi8er10 · November 14th, 2003, 22:06

Hey Kato, what squadron were you in for BMT? I was in 331st, 24 Jul 02- 09 Sep 02. You going to Sheppard for your tech school?

Kato · November 14th, 2003, 22:34

Avi8er10, I was in the 322nd - 09sep03- 27oct03. I will be going to Little Rock Ark. for tech school. How have you enjoyed the Air Force? What's your job?

viper548 · November 18th, 2003, 20:43

Does the 322 still have the scottish TI w/ the shaved head?

Kato · November 18th, 2003, 21:57

That doesn't ring a bell - Do you know his last name?

viper548 · November 19th, 2003, 12:59

Not off hand. That was 4 years ago. I was there Nov-Dec 1999. You would know if he was still there.

El_Cid_Av8or · December 28th, 2003, 06:35

Kato: Congrats on finishing BMT. I was at basic in the 323 TRS during the same time period your were. Like you, I'd say it wasn't all that hard-just got to keep a clean slate and shut up and color. At age 32 (now 33) with a degree from The Citadel, I had a head start on most folks there. I am off to tech school at Sheppard in Wichita Falls, TX (a.k.a. middle of nowhere) on 04 Jan for F-16 Crew Chief training. Have fun in Little Rock, AR!

Kato · December 30th, 2003, 13:52

El_Cid_Av8or - Congrats to you too! F-16 crew chief - what a cool job, I am sure you are looking forward to that. I don't go to loadmaster school until June '04

so in the mean time I will finish another semester at school. Were you by chance a dorm chief?

El_Cid_Av8or · December 30th, 2003, 21:43

Nope, not a dorm chief, just an element leader. How about you?

I'm busting my tail to make sure I have everything ready to go on Sunday. Can't forget that Lackland Light Saber!

USAFplt · February 7th, 2004, 23:32

congrats dude

November 8th, 2003, 22:32	#1
Kato Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vance, AFB... for now Posts: 78	Back from Air Force Basic Training! Hey all, Just wanted to drop a line and say what a relief it is to be back in the real world! I've spent the last 6.5 weeks at Lackland AFB in San Antonio Texas for BMT. For all those that dont know, AF basic training is not too tough, just a constant headache. Anyway, I don't go to loadmaster school for another couple of months, so I get to enjoy some home cooked meals and waste time on this site for a while! Take care everybody, Kato

November 8th, 2003, 22:51	#2
shooter13 Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,952	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! Its only 6.5 weeks? Wow! Congrats. Wecome back.

November 9th, 2003, 07:56	#3
JEP Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Eden Prairie, MN (KFCM) (KMSP) Posts: 10,887 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! [ QUOTE ] so I get to enjoy some home cooked meals and waste time on this site for a while! [/ QUOTE ] Doug is not going to be happy with that statement. I would hope that you were being sarcastic, but if you cannot learn something from this site, something must be wrong. If one finds it a waste, then why stop and look. Anyway, enjoy those homecooked meals.

November 9th, 2003, 14:33	#4
viper548 Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 818	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! What plane are you gonna be on? I'm a C-5 loadmaster at Travis.

November 10th, 2003, 01:29	#5
Kato Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vance, AFB... for now Posts: 78	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! fly4free, Relax bud, I was being sarcastic. You are right, this is a wonderful site with a lot of valuable information. viper548, I will be on the C-130 down at Channel Islands. How long have you been a load?

November 10th, 2003, 01:59	#6
viper548 Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 818	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! 4 years. It's one of the best enlisted jobs. Even as an airman people listen to what you say. Not many jobs get that kind of respect. Trips are awesome. The more countries you go to, the more you will realize how awesome this country is. C-130's a good plane. It must be nice to be able to load the plane from one K-loader. It takes 6 to load the c-5 full of pallets.

November 10th, 2003, 16:47	#7
Hootie Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Zona Posts: 1,182	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] so I get to enjoy some home cooked meals and waste time on this site for a while! [/ QUOTE ] Doug is not going to be happy with that statement. I would hope that you were being sarcastic, but if you cannot learn something from this site, something must be wrong. If one finds it a waste, then why stop and look. Anyway, enjoy those homecooked meals. [/ QUOTE ] Oh man! fly4free, don't forget to mention that you are a dork. Congrats Kato! I was supposed to leave this wednesday for lackland but I will be having surgury instead to reattach the ulner nerve in my left elbow. Yeah the dates people weren't too happy that I waited 3 months to get looked at because I hate going to the doctor. How much sleep did you average a night? And viper do you still have all your fingers? how about the guys in your unit? That might just be some made up bs that gets thrown out there (loads losing fingers) but I was wondering if that is true? Also could you tell me what a flying crew chiefs duties are during flight (if any)?

November 10th, 2003, 18:15	#8
Kato Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vance, AFB... for now Posts: 78	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! [/ QUOTE ] How much sleep did you average a night? [/ QUOTE ] "lights out" was scheduled for 2100 during the week and 2200 for the weekend, and we were supposed to wake up every morning at 0430. Seems like we normally woke up at 0400 unless of course we had details like "kp duty" - then we were up at 0230! We managed to lose sleep almost every other night but you will never EVER make it up. It's not that bad, you will become fully adjusted to the schedule after the first week. Any Idea on when you leave now?

November 10th, 2003, 18:45	#9
ShoreFly Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: EWR Posts: 164	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! Hootie, As for the flying crew chief question, they have no inflight duties (except for sleeping), on the KC-10 and KC-135. There are a few that are certified to be passenger handlers, but it's like being an underqualified flight attendant.

November 11th, 2003, 00:20	#10
viper548 Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 818	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! Loads losing fingers? I haven't heard of any. They make us take off all rings and jewlery before going on the plane. I hear that once a guy fell, the ring got caught on something and ripped the finger off. I dont know of any loads getting hurt since I came in. I hear it's the crew chiefs that die on the jets. A C-5 at dover is supposedly haunted by a crew chief that died on the plane (don't know how). There are many stories of strange stuff happening in that plane such as an APU starting itself. A guy died in a fuel tank he was fixing. They are supposed to go in pairs, he went by himself, got knocked out by the fumes. The found the body after he clogged a fuel line in flight. A guy fell down the stairs and died, on the C5 that's about 15 feet. I hit my head on a piece of cargo and had to get 2 medical staples. BE CAREFUL ON THE PLANE!!

November 11th, 2003, 10:20	#11
Hootie Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Zona Posts: 1,182	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! I love how military people make up all sorts of crazy bull#### about other jets and jobs. I was under the impression that loads are half crazy with all sorts of missing extremities. Like caged freaks that are locked up permanently in the back of a cargo jet. I think I would have really liked to be a load or a boom but those type units are an extra 3 hours over my 2 hour (not bad at all) viper commute. But I like the crew chiefs and we have awesome 1992-93 block 42 vipers that we have owned since birth and I love the unit. But you are right about crew chiefs getting killed. I was out around the jet last drill and they were showing me how to change a tire and they were saying how it can kill you if you aren't careful. I wasn't too sure I believed them so they take me inside and go to some dod network webpage on how to kill yourself around the jet and sure enough , graphic pics of some dude split in half by a tire rim coming off like a sidewinder. crazy.

November 11th, 2003, 11:24	#12
JEP Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Eden Prairie, MN (KFCM) (KMSP) Posts: 10,887 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! [ QUOTE ] Oh man! fly4free, don't forget to mention that you are a dork. [/ QUOTE ] Someone is showing there age... What are you 17 or 18?. I used to hear that in high school. Well excuse me ! I am not the one that made the comment about wasting time. Like I said, I would hope that you are being sarcastic. but one would not know without leaving some sarcastic tags. Like I said the first time, if you feel like you are wasting time, then don't let the door hit you on the way out.

November 11th, 2003, 20:55	#13
Herkyload1 Newbie Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 16	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! Congrats on finishing basic. Have fun at the 'Rock, I know quite a few of the guys at the School House. One of the IL's was at the Island's Guard for a while. Enjoy your time flying on the E's at school, you'll enjoy those J's a little better! Praise The Load!

November 11th, 2003, 22:03	#14
CaptainMatt Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Space Shuttle Posts: 620	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! I live 20 minutes south from Channel Islands...I know someone that is a Loader with them that came from moorpark. His name is Brett.

November 11th, 2003, 23:16	#15
Kato Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vance, AFB... for now Posts: 78	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! Thanks Herkyload1, I heard that tech school should be a good time. Although I am pretty excited to get all the training over with and to get out into the operation. It will probably be some time until I get to fly on the 'J' ( being the new guy and all) - it also doesn't help that we will be in transition from the 'E' to 'J' until at least 2008. How's the life of a loadmaster treating you? CaptainMatt, I might know who that is - I am not yet on a "first name" basis with all the guys there. Soon though. He is not in Iraq is he?

November 12th, 2003, 20:32	#16
CaptainMatt Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Space Shuttle Posts: 620	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! Not sure...He went to basic training last december and then headed to tech school after that...I have no Idea where he is...The last I heard from him was last Dec.

November 14th, 2003, 22:06	#17
Avi8er10 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Live in the Chicago Burbs. Posts: 68	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! Hey Kato, what squadron were you in for BMT? I was in 331st, 24 Jul 02- 09 Sep 02. You going to Sheppard for your tech school?

November 14th, 2003, 22:34	#18
Kato Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vance, AFB... for now Posts: 78	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! Avi8er10, I was in the 322nd - 09sep03- 27oct03. I will be going to Little Rock Ark. for tech school. How have you enjoyed the Air Force? What's your job?

November 18th, 2003, 20:43	#19
viper548 Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 818	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! Does the 322 still have the scottish TI w/ the shaved head?

November 18th, 2003, 21:57	#20
Kato Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vance, AFB... for now Posts: 78	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! That doesn't ring a bell - Do you know his last name?

November 19th, 2003, 12:59	#21
viper548 Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 818	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! Not off hand. That was 4 years ago. I was there Nov-Dec 1999. You would know if he was still there.

December 28th, 2003, 06:35	#22
El_Cid_Av8or Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Goose Creek, SC, USA Posts: 29	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! Kato: Congrats on finishing BMT. I was at basic in the 323 TRS during the same time period your were. Like you, I'd say it wasn't all that hard-just got to keep a clean slate and shut up and color. At age 32 (now 33) with a degree from The Citadel, I had a head start on most folks there. I am off to tech school at Sheppard in Wichita Falls, TX (a.k.a. middle of nowhere) on 04 Jan for F-16 Crew Chief training. Have fun in Little Rock, AR!

December 30th, 2003, 13:52	#23
Kato Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vance, AFB... for now Posts: 78	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! El_Cid_Av8or - Congrats to you too! F-16 crew chief - what a cool job, I am sure you are looking forward to that. I don't go to loadmaster school until June '04 so in the mean time I will finish another semester at school. Were you by chance a dorm chief?

December 30th, 2003, 21:43	#24
El_Cid_Av8or Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Goose Creek, SC, USA Posts: 29	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! Nope, not a dorm chief, just an element leader. How about you? I'm busting my tail to make sure I have everything ready to go on Sunday. Can't forget that Lackland Light Saber!

February 7th, 2004, 23:32	#25
USAFplt Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 350	Re: Back from Air Force Basic Training! congrats dude

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