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January 1st, 2007, 01:21
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| Old Skool  |  U.S. to fly controversial Osprey in combat U.S. to fly controversial Osprey in combat SAN DIEGO, Dec. 28 (UPI) -- The U.S. Pentagon is forging ahead with plans to get the MV-22 helicopter-aircraft into combat, despite a controversial and deadly performance history. The Boeing Co. and the Bell Helicopter's aircraft takes off vertically as a helicopter and the engines rotate forward to fly as a turboprop plane. The craft is used primarily as a troop transporter. But six years ago, two crashes of the Osprey killed 19 Marines, and the project was shelved. Now, the Pentagon has ordered 458 of the $70 million craft, most of which will go the Marines Corps, although those destined for the Air Force will cost $89 million each because of enhanced electronic combat features, the Escondido (Calif.) North County Times reported. Marine Lt. Col. Rick A. Pagel, the station operations officer at Miramar Air Base in San Diego, said he expected the Osprey would be deployed to Iraq in 2007, although it was ultimately up the secretary of Defense.
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January 1st, 2007, 02:56
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alpha Tango Lima
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 | Re: U.S. to fly controversial Osprey in combat Ah, another Fraud, Waste, and Abuse complaint that will never be answered. |
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January 1st, 2007, 12:26
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| Re: U.S. to fly controversial Osprey in combat I have friend that I went to Aircrew school with and he's an instructor in the MV-22. He said he used to be so scared to fly in the thing, but after they were grounded and the cuprits were identified and fixed he's had no problems and is enjoying it. Though we did SAR for them on the Saipan and the Bataan. Those things a scary coming in to land witht hose huge blades. The AF is flying them out of Kirtland AFB in ABQ. The Marines are ready to stand up the first deployable unit. Their training squadron is at Cherry Point, NC. |
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January 2nd, 2007, 01:59
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| Old Skool  | Re: U.S. to fly controversial Osprey in combat Maybe the Air Force will look to cut its budget somewhere other than the F22/F35. Cut that beeyatch and let the Marines deal with it. Get us some more C17s and the above!
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January 2nd, 2007, 13:01
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| Re: U.S. to fly controversial Osprey in combat I see em taking off from the Bell labs at GKY sometimes, it's pretty cool!! I think the civilian version is what they're working on here. |
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January 3rd, 2007, 17:57
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| Old Skool | Re: U.S. to fly controversial Osprey in combat Quote:
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January 3rd, 2007, 19:03
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| Old Skool  Join Date: May 2006 Location: Live in Temple, TX - From Ithaca, NY - Wish I was on an island in Fiji
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| Re: U.S. to fly controversial Osprey in combat Quote:
Yeah Baby! More Globemaster III's!! 458 seems like an awful lot of aircraft no matter what. | |
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January 3rd, 2007, 19:38
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| Re: U.S. to fly controversial Osprey in combat So the AF is getting rid of two years worth of LTs, a number of Majors and Captains, as well as another enlisted force shaping later this spring. . . so they can pay off the debt to Boeing for some Osprey? Sad. |
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January 3rd, 2007, 20:48
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| Old Skool | Re: U.S. to fly controversial Osprey in combat Quote:
Seriously though, F' the V-22. Let the army and marines F with them.
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January 4th, 2007, 00:15
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| Old Skool | Re: U.S. to fly controversial Osprey in combat Quote:
hmmmmmmmm
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January 4th, 2007, 00:31
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January 4th, 2007, 00:35
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| Old Skool | Re: U.S. to fly controversial Osprey in combat Quote:
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January 4th, 2007, 01:17
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January 4th, 2007, 01:34
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January 5th, 2007, 12:30
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| Re: U.S. to fly controversial Osprey in combat Quote:
 I should show you the logbooks of the aircraft I flew in and show you how much of a lickin' they took and continued flying. You could throw a stone at a blackhawk to bring it down. Last edited by H46Bubba; January 5th, 2007 at 13:43. | |
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January 5th, 2007, 13:13
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| Old Skool | Re: U.S. to fly controversial Osprey in combat Quote:
.. I think it was in Blackhawk Down, but leave it to Hollywood to make something up like RPGs.....
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January 5th, 2007, 13:40
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| Old Skool  | Re: U.S. to fly controversial Osprey in combat Quote:
 Most Chinooks I have flown started out as A - models. | |
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January 6th, 2007, 03:01
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| Re: U.S. to fly controversial Osprey in combat I have a good friend slotted to fly the Osprey. I knew one of those 19 Marines killed some years ago. Remember, just because an aircraft has a bloody start doesn't mean that it's of no use. Does anybody remember the wire chaffing problem in the F-16 (those of you old enough to, that is . . . )? How about the early problems with the Harrier? If we'd "Cut and Run" at the first sign of problems then, where would we be now? We're not talking about Cessna here, these are killing machines - there are some risks. If you can't deal with that, you probably won't have to worry about flying in my beloved Corps.
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January 6th, 2007, 12:17
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| Re: U.S. to fly controversial Osprey in combat Well said Lloyd. |
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