Question for the military/ex military pilot's...

[skywestseth]

What happens when you get out of the service with your rating's, what has to be done....as far as continuing civilian side....conversions ,checkrides...

If i had my PPL already can i log military flight time?

Thanks in advance...

-Seth

[mtsu_av8er]

Originally Posted by skywestseth

What happens when you get out of the service with your rating's, what has to be done....as far as continuing civilian side....conversions ,checkrides...

Your answer lies here!

If i had my PPL already can i log military flight time?

If you don't have your PPL, you can log military flight time!!

It's flight time!!!

[skywestseth]

Cool thanks for the info...

But since all the aircraft are either turbines and a few are over 12,500
are military type ratings honored by the FAA?

-Seth

[mtsu_av8er]

Originally Posted by skywestseth

But since all the aircraft are either turbines and a few are over 12,500
are military type ratings honored by the FAA?

More than a few are over 12,500!! Your flight time in the military will be honored.

With regards to type ratings - they're not an issue. Whether or not you have an F-16 type rating won't matter to American Airlines. They'll still value the flight time.

For more info on aircraft type ratings, read Advisory Circular 61-89E.

[skywestseth]

cool thanks....in regards to the flight time what impact will army rotorcraft time have on my civilian flight ambitions...in regards to the airlines or corporate....

-Seth

[slowandlow]

I have heard from former Army helo pilots that when they tried to get a job for a airline they only counted the helicopter time as single engine. I.E chinook, blackhawk. I don't know why, but hopefully you can find someone who can explain better

[skywestseth]

I will take any time...i wonder if it counts as single engine turbine time though...heck ill take anything i can get...i better stop worriying for now about this and just worry about the officer board...i need to get in first...


-Seth

[slowandlow]

You should be fine. It sounds like you have good scores, and as long as you don't look like a total dork in your DA photo you might make it in. J/k. Good luck to you...Are they still hurting pretty bad for pilots?

[skywestseth]

from what i hear they are taking them in....the last 6 or so boards it look like they are taking about 50% or so....but who is to say whether or not the non-selects were qualified......hopefully


-Seth

[BCTAv8r]

Would I have a better chance of flying in the AF through officer school after college? I don't want to do ROTC because I don't want to change my mind later during college and be too late. At least when I graduate college I think I'll be able to make a more responsible decision on wether I want to go to officer training or not. I've been in JROTC for 3 years and had made it to Staff Sargeant last year but when I changed schools they started me as a Seaman as anything higher had responsibilities that had already been filled. If I can't make it in JROTC I wonder where that puts me in the real thing? I know you guys have beaten this horse to it's death already, but I was just wondering. The only people who make it to the top in this program are the ones in the drill teams which I can't join because I work.

I have my vision problem too but that ain't stopping me.

[Mike Lewis]

Originally Posted by BCTAv8r

Would I have a better chance of flying in the AF through officer school after college?

The number of slots at OTS are based on the number that aren't filled through the Academy and ROTC. So, if the bulk of the slots are filled by the Academy and ROTC, very few slots will fall to OTS. It's not impossible, but it's very difficult.

I don't want to do ROTC because I don't want to change my mind later during college and be too late.

If you are at all hesitant, I wouldn't plan on going into the military. It's a HUGE commitment, and if you aren't in it 100%, you will be miserable.

At least when I graduate college I think I'll be able to make a more responsible decision on wether I want to go to officer training or not. I've been in JROTC for 3 years and had made it to Staff Sargeant last year but when I changed schools they started me as a Seaman as anything higher had responsibilities that had already been filled. If I can't make it in JROTC I wonder where that puts me in the real thing? I know you guys have beaten this horse to it's death already, but I was just wondering. The only people who make it to the top in this program are the ones in the drill teams which I can't join because I work.

I have my vision problem too but that ain't stopping me.

JROTC is nothing like the real ROTC, which is, itself, absolutely nothing like the Air Force.

It's all a game; play the game, win the prize. If you use that mentality in ROTC, you'll have no problem.

[aloft]

When there is a civilian version of an aircraft, USAF pilots upgrading to aircraft commander will usually also get the FAA type rating. (e.g., KC-135 ACs get B-707/720 typed, VC-20 ACs get G-III/IV typed, VC-21 ACs get Learjet 35 typed, etc).

FWIW, I think you'd have a better shot at getting a pilot slot through an Air National Guard or Air Force Reserve unit.

[BCTAv8r]

Originally Posted by Mike Lewis

The number of slots at OTS are based on the number that aren't filled through the Academy and ROTC. So, if the bulk of the slots are filled by the Academy and ROTC, very few slots will fall to OTS. It's not impossible, but it's very difficult.



If you are at all hesitant, I wouldn't plan on going into the military. It's a HUGE commitment, and if you aren't in it 100%, you will be miserable.



JROTC is nothing like the real ROTC, which is, itself, absolutely nothing like the Air Force.

It's all a game; play the game, win the prize. If you use that mentality in ROTC, you'll have no problem.

Well I'm only 16 which is why I am hesitating. I am however turning 17 in May and going to college in the fall. The school I am going to has only Army ROTC, the school 10 minutes away with an aviation program has AFROTC. Can I go to a school and be part of another school's ROTC?

[Mike Lewis]

Originally Posted by BCTAv8r

Well I'm only 16 which is why I am hesitating. I am however turning 17 in May and going to college in the fall. The school I am going to has only Army ROTC, the school 10 minutes away with an aviation program has AFROTC. Can I go to a school and be part of another school's ROTC?

You'd have to ask the school which owns the program.

For example, they were discussing closing my detachment at ERAU Prescott. If that happened, we would have had to attend AFROTC classes at Northern Arizona University, which was about 2 hours away.

Yavapai College had an ROTC agreement with our school, although I don't know of any students who came to our attachment via that school.

So, in answer to your question, yeah, they'll probably open it up, but it all depends on the credit-sharing agreement with your schools.

[usnseallt82]

Originally Posted by BCTAv8r

Well I'm only 16 which is why I am hesitating. I am however turning 17 in May and going to college in the fall. The school I am going to has only Army ROTC, the school 10 minutes away with an aviation program has AFROTC. Can I go to a school and be part of another school's ROTC?

Don't limit yourself to just one branch because your school only offers that ROTC program. There are officer recruiters in your area from all branches that have other programs available for you. But, like another member said, if you aren't dedicated to being in the military, don't go that route.

Also, on the Navy side of things, pilot slots are becoming fewer and fewer because of so many furloughed from the airlines and others that came back after Sept. 11. The trend is slowing, but the competition will be extremely difficult for some years to come. From what I understand, the other services are in the same position, except for the Army.....who is apparently begging for pilots. My advice would be to look into each branch and see what appeals to you. Military commitments are nothing to play around with, so you need to make sure you're excited about which branch you're going into. If the military doesn't appeal to you, it might be best to stick to civilian flying.

Either way, best of luck to you and make sure you look around and talk with the recruiters in your area. If you want it bad enough, there is a program out there somewhere to help you get it.