HIRED

USMC-SGT · September 14th, 2007, 20:34

hey everyone I have two gouges here for ya.

1. the ATP, ATP test prep delivers what it promises. A little pricey but for me it fit my schedule perfectly and I do not reqret it. You will get there at 8 and they will sit you in front of a computer with a 518 question test bank and you will go at them alone until 6 at night when you take the test. They also had a gouge for us that give you hints like if they are all weights then it is always the middle number (just an example, dont try it). I scored a 91 and had not even cracked an ATP prep book at all.

Negatives, dont actually expect to really learn much because all it does is teach you to pass the test in one day which it does, but you will really not learn much.

Colgan,
Got there at 9am and went to the break room for a few and talked to a Colgan CA and FA that were there, both good people who enjoy what they do. About 15 minues later they were ready for us and we went to the classroom. 10 minutes of paperwork, 10 minutes of Colgan history, 10 minutes of sim profile. After that we were all given the written which was 50 questions. Written had an enroute chart and an approach plate and an airport info page. It was weather heavy, Jepp chart and plate heavy and had some questions about visual illusions (flight into fog, narrow runway) There were a few tricky ones but overall not a big deal.

During your written you may or may not finish at one time because you are pulled out as you needed to do the sim or the HR. You have 45 minutes to do the written and need a 70 but it is not timed because of the situation, it will not take more than 45 minutes anyway.

I finished the written and got pulled out for the HR with Mr Colgan and an FO and was asked. Why Colgan, What was the hardest training you have ever done, Which twin do you want to talk about. I picked the Seminole because it is my most recent twin but also mentioned I could talk about the duchess because I have a bit of time in that as wel. He asked what is different about the engines in the Seminole over the duchess, I said nothing, he said what is different about the gear in the seminole over the duches, I said nothing and that was more or less it. I went into detail about the engines and the gear though since there was really nothing to talk about with them. I asked one question and that was the end of the HR. They seemed happy when asked about my hardest training I had and I mentioned Water survival instructor (http://www.marines.cc/content/view/50/2/) and bootcamp and he seemed confident I guess that I would pass training.

Then the Sim,
I went in with a group of three and he asked who would go first and I said I would (mistake) I got in the seat and took off from HPN 16 and flew runway heading to 800 feet then a turn to 320. I leveled of at 3000 and was given direct carmel VOR. On the way there I was told to hold on the 030 radial left turns and I told him the entry and briefed it (initial heading, time, then turn to what, and then what etc) He was ok with that and was told to go direct to the LOM using the ADF (if you havent used an adf before dont sweat it, it is on a rotating card that is like a backup directional gyro so you just turn to the heading the arrow is pointing to, idiot proof) Once you get closer you will turn to 340 (downwind) and then get vectored for the LOC. Once you are vectored you are cleared for the approach and you just track it (you are about 12 miles from FAF on intercept) and fly it to mins and we didnt land if you were curious.

The sim is sensitive as you all know and it took me flying through my alt of 3000 by a bit to get it back down and set up and get the feel of it, some may not have that problem but I did. As for the ILS, I chased it around a bit but not too bad, small corrections were key. I didnt feel I did well in the sim at all.

I got back to the room and had a slice of pizza (thanks Colgan!) and was fingerprinted and sent to the urinalysis. When I got back there was no one there and Mr. Colgan and his assistant pulled me into a back room and told me I did great on the sim (I think they were trying to make me feel good) and they told me I would be a great fit and offered me a job. They are going to call me and let me know which airframe I will get. I want the SAAB but there is a possibilty of the Q, they are going to figure that out.

It was a great experience and I had a great time, everyone I met was great and It was the only company I wanted to work for and applied to so it worked out well.

I have lots of more information on the interview including specifics and profiles and power settings but there is no need to post them here since they are all on aviationinterviews.com.

oh yea times...1015/176

and if any of my students are reading this...dont worry, im still instructing until late Oct

ASpilot2be · September 14th, 2007, 20:42

Congrats

phoenix 23684 · September 14th, 2007, 21:26

Congrats, I just finished initial training, wow can't believe they may offer you the Q, pretty cool.

GreenDayPilot · September 14th, 2007, 21:50

Congrats!

Snuggle · September 14th, 2007, 22:06

Congrats! Good job!

Seggy · September 14th, 2007, 23:08

Congrats!

dc3flyer · September 14th, 2007, 23:17

CoNGRADS!!!!!!

Captain_Bob · September 14th, 2007, 23:41

WooHoo! Congrats!!

Sounds like a long day!

sdfcvoh · September 14th, 2007, 23:49

YEAH!

unclenobby · September 15th, 2007, 12:51

Congratulations.....that's awsome

.....(and a Big phew that you'll be around for a little longer !!! )

jima7011 · September 15th, 2007, 13:12

Uhrah! and congrats--

falconvalley · September 15th, 2007, 13:17

Congrats!

SmitteyB · September 15th, 2007, 13:25

Welcome tO CJC.

MusketeerMan · September 15th, 2007, 16:48

Congratulations!!! Good luck in training!!

Aero_Engineer · September 15th, 2007, 16:54

Congrats man!!

mtsu_av8er · September 15th, 2007, 16:57

Oohrah, Marine. Good job!

Now get up there and teach those kids some discipline!

USMC-SGT · September 15th, 2007, 19:18

Ill do my best mtsu...It was interesting when they asked "what is the hardest training you have ever done?"

You know the feeling...You just smile and say, where do you want me to start and should I list them in alphabetical order?

Man I love the Corps...Im going to really miss my big gun club

USMC-SGT · September 15th, 2007, 20:07

Hey fellow future Colgan brothers,

I dont want to start a whole new thread for this but do you guys know what the class dates are?

I know the Saab is having a class I think they said Oct 22nd because that would work with my schedule possibly although a few weeks later may be a little better (which is when they suggested the Q class in Nov) I do not want the Q but I also do not want to wait forever for a Saab class...do any of you know when the next class after the 22nd of Oct is? If it is not until Dec/Jan then it looks like 10/22 here I come

also, bonus points if you know where it will be..I hear the have Miami every now and again which would be great since my sister and her husband live there

Seggy · September 15th, 2007, 20:13

Take the first class offered. Does not matter if it is the Q, Saab or Beech.

TRUST ME.

USMC-SGT · September 15th, 2007, 20:23

I was not offered the Beech, just the saab and they are considering the Q but will call me on that. The reason I have to wait until that date is because I am closing on a house on Oct 1st and I need to be here to make sure the few things we are having done the week after I close get taken care of and then to move in so I figure that may put me late oct or so, so I cant start until then anyway. I do not want the Q because it has no base in MHT (30 miles from my house) so my QOL would be exponentially worse that is why I want the SF.

I understand that it will suck being 50 lower on the seniority list but it is something I have to do, I have been away for every move for the past four years because of the military and I owe it to my wife to be here for the whole process of this one.

Thank you for the information though I appreciate it

Seggy · September 15th, 2007, 20:35

The only class date I know about is on September 24th because my buddy I was talking to today is going down to teach it. He actually posts on here as well.

They might put you in the Q anyway, who knows.

I understand what you are saying, but 50 numbers could be a BIG determinant for your QOL down the road when you are actually flying the line.

There are no guarantees MHT will be around forever as a crew base.

Welcome again to the fun at Colgan!

USMC-SGT · September 15th, 2007, 20:49

Thanks for the info Seggy, I appreciate it.

I guess I will know further what is going on when they call me next week I was just trying to get ahead of the game and see if anyone knew off chance what some of the class dates were. Seniority is everything but you want to see bad QOL...try my angry wife when I go to training and she has to move on her own...now that will be some bad QOL. I think id rather take my chances with a lower seniority number, the couch is uncomfortable

Cruise · September 15th, 2007, 21:25

Congrats on the job offer. As far as class schedules go.....I'd venture to guess Colgan doesn't even know that far out yet. A bit ridiculous....but I'm quite certain you're familiar with 'Standby to standby.' There's your answer and that phrase should be the CJC motto.

Good idea helping your wife with the move....your marriage will thank you later.

Congrats again and welcome.

USMC-SGT · September 16th, 2007, 05:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruise

but I'm quite certain you're familiar with 'Standby to standby.'

now you are speaking my language...no one can standy to standby like I can!

what is cjc...I figure one of the C's is Colgan

Cruise · September 16th, 2007, 11:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by USMC-SGT

now you are speaking my language...no one can standy to standby like I can!

what is cjc...I figure one of the C's is Colgan

Yeah, I had a sneaky suspicion you'd know what I was talking about.

CJC = Colgan's ATC identifier.

September 14th, 2007, 20:34	#1
USMC-SGT Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: East Posts: 1,019	HIRED hey everyone I have two gouges here for ya. 1. the ATP, ATP test prep delivers what it promises. A little pricey but for me it fit my schedule perfectly and I do not reqret it. You will get there at 8 and they will sit you in front of a computer with a 518 question test bank and you will go at them alone until 6 at night when you take the test. They also had a gouge for us that give you hints like if they are all weights then it is always the middle number (just an example, dont try it). I scored a 91 and had not even cracked an ATP prep book at all. Negatives, dont actually expect to really learn much because all it does is teach you to pass the test in one day which it does, but you will really not learn much. Colgan, Got there at 9am and went to the break room for a few and talked to a Colgan CA and FA that were there, both good people who enjoy what they do. About 15 minues later they were ready for us and we went to the classroom. 10 minutes of paperwork, 10 minutes of Colgan history, 10 minutes of sim profile. After that we were all given the written which was 50 questions. Written had an enroute chart and an approach plate and an airport info page. It was weather heavy, Jepp chart and plate heavy and had some questions about visual illusions (flight into fog, narrow runway) There were a few tricky ones but overall not a big deal. During your written you may or may not finish at one time because you are pulled out as you needed to do the sim or the HR. You have 45 minutes to do the written and need a 70 but it is not timed because of the situation, it will not take more than 45 minutes anyway. I finished the written and got pulled out for the HR with Mr Colgan and an FO and was asked. Why Colgan, What was the hardest training you have ever done, Which twin do you want to talk about. I picked the Seminole because it is my most recent twin but also mentioned I could talk about the duchess because I have a bit of time in that as wel. He asked what is different about the engines in the Seminole over the duchess, I said nothing, he said what is different about the gear in the seminole over the duches, I said nothing and that was more or less it. I went into detail about the engines and the gear though since there was really nothing to talk about with them. I asked one question and that was the end of the HR. They seemed happy when asked about my hardest training I had and I mentioned Water survival instructor (http://www.marines.cc/content/view/50/2/) and bootcamp and he seemed confident I guess that I would pass training. Then the Sim, I went in with a group of three and he asked who would go first and I said I would (mistake) I got in the seat and took off from HPN 16 and flew runway heading to 800 feet then a turn to 320. I leveled of at 3000 and was given direct carmel VOR. On the way there I was told to hold on the 030 radial left turns and I told him the entry and briefed it (initial heading, time, then turn to what, and then what etc) He was ok with that and was told to go direct to the LOM using the ADF (if you havent used an adf before dont sweat it, it is on a rotating card that is like a backup directional gyro so you just turn to the heading the arrow is pointing to, idiot proof) Once you get closer you will turn to 340 (downwind) and then get vectored for the LOC. Once you are vectored you are cleared for the approach and you just track it (you are about 12 miles from FAF on intercept) and fly it to mins and we didnt land if you were curious. The sim is sensitive as you all know and it took me flying through my alt of 3000 by a bit to get it back down and set up and get the feel of it, some may not have that problem but I did. As for the ILS, I chased it around a bit but not too bad, small corrections were key. I didnt feel I did well in the sim at all. I got back to the room and had a slice of pizza (thanks Colgan!) and was fingerprinted and sent to the urinalysis. When I got back there was no one there and Mr. Colgan and his assistant pulled me into a back room and told me I did great on the sim (I think they were trying to make me feel good) and they told me I would be a great fit and offered me a job. They are going to call me and let me know which airframe I will get. I want the SAAB but there is a possibilty of the Q, they are going to figure that out. It was a great experience and I had a great time, everyone I met was great and It was the only company I wanted to work for and applied to so it worked out well. I have lots of more information on the interview including specifics and profiles and power settings but there is no need to post them here since they are all on aviationinterviews.com. oh yea times...1015/176 and if any of my students are reading this...dont worry, im still instructing until late Oct __________________ .....i have two speeds, walk and kill

September 14th, 2007, 20:42	#2
ASpilot2be Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: Paradise:) Posts: 4,427	Re: HIRED Congrats __________________

September 14th, 2007, 21:26	#3
phoenix 23684 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 136	Re: HIRED Congrats, I just finished initial training, wow can't believe they may offer you the Q, pretty cool.

September 14th, 2007, 21:50	#4
GreenDayPilot Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 905	Re: HIRED Congrats! __________________ "Love, Fly, Live, and Die"

September 14th, 2007, 22:06	#5
Snuggle Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 531	Re: HIRED Congrats! Good job!

September 14th, 2007, 23:08	#6
Seggy Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Somewhere in the Northeast Posts: 4,942	Re: HIRED Congrats! __________________ www.alpa.org

September 14th, 2007, 23:17	#7
dc3flyer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Everywhere Posts: 1,108	Re: HIRED CoNGRADS!!!!!! __________________ Paid to wait.... Fly for fun!

September 14th, 2007, 23:41	#8
Captain_Bob Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: DFW, based in ONT, wishing I was in Maine Posts: 3,852	Re: HIRED WooHoo! Congrats!! Sounds like a long day! __________________ My head is in the clouds and my heart is still in Maine... but my devotion and love belong to my wife and children. Pics!

September 14th, 2007, 23:49	#9
sdfcvoh Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: That one Posts: 872	Re: HIRED YEAH! __________________ I want to die like my grandfather did, peacefully in his sleep. Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

September 15th, 2007, 12:51	#10
unclenobby Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Beantown Posts: 88	Re: HIRED Congratulations.....that's awsome .....(and a Big phew that you'll be around for a little longer !!! )

September 15th, 2007, 13:12	#11
jima7011 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cleared for the ILS Rwy 4 Approach Posts: 166	Re: HIRED Uhrah! and congrats--

September 15th, 2007, 13:17	#12
falconvalley Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KMKE Posts: 1,924	Re: HIRED Congrats! __________________ British Airways flight asks for push back clearance from terminal. Control Tower replies: "And where is the world's most experienced airline going today without filing a flight plan?"

September 15th, 2007, 13:25	#13
SmitteyB Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ithaca, NY Posts: 1,942	Re: HIRED Welcome tO CJC.

September 15th, 2007, 16:48	#14
MusketeerMan Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 1,881	Re: HIRED Congratulations!!! Good luck in training!!

September 15th, 2007, 16:54	#15
Aero_Engineer Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: California, USA Posts: 2,033	Re: HIRED Congrats man!!

September 15th, 2007, 16:57	#16
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,403	Re: HIRED Oohrah, Marine. Good job! Now get up there and teach those kids some discipline! __________________ ------- "Sadness bears no remedy for the problems in your life."

September 15th, 2007, 19:18	#17
USMC-SGT Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: East Posts: 1,019	Re: HIRED Ill do my best mtsu...It was interesting when they asked "what is the hardest training you have ever done?" You know the feeling...You just smile and say, where do you want me to start and should I list them in alphabetical order? Man I love the Corps...Im going to really miss my big gun club __________________ .....i have two speeds, walk and kill

September 15th, 2007, 20:07	#18
USMC-SGT Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: East Posts: 1,019	Re: HIRED Hey fellow future Colgan brothers, I dont want to start a whole new thread for this but do you guys know what the class dates are? I know the Saab is having a class I think they said Oct 22nd because that would work with my schedule possibly although a few weeks later may be a little better (which is when they suggested the Q class in Nov) I do not want the Q but I also do not want to wait forever for a Saab class...do any of you know when the next class after the 22nd of Oct is? If it is not until Dec/Jan then it looks like 10/22 here I come also, bonus points if you know where it will be..I hear the have Miami every now and again which would be great since my sister and her husband live there __________________ .....i have two speeds, walk and kill

September 15th, 2007, 20:13	#19
Seggy Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Somewhere in the Northeast Posts: 4,942	Re: HIRED Take the first class offered. Does not matter if it is the Q, Saab or Beech. TRUST ME. __________________ www.alpa.org

September 15th, 2007, 20:23	#20
USMC-SGT Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: East Posts: 1,019	Re: HIRED I was not offered the Beech, just the saab and they are considering the Q but will call me on that. The reason I have to wait until that date is because I am closing on a house on Oct 1st and I need to be here to make sure the few things we are having done the week after I close get taken care of and then to move in so I figure that may put me late oct or so, so I cant start until then anyway. I do not want the Q because it has no base in MHT (30 miles from my house) so my QOL would be exponentially worse that is why I want the SF. I understand that it will suck being 50 lower on the seniority list but it is something I have to do, I have been away for every move for the past four years because of the military and I owe it to my wife to be here for the whole process of this one. Thank you for the information though I appreciate it __________________ .....i have two speeds, walk and kill

September 15th, 2007, 20:35	#21
Seggy Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Somewhere in the Northeast Posts: 4,942	Re: HIRED The only class date I know about is on September 24th because my buddy I was talking to today is going down to teach it. He actually posts on here as well. They might put you in the Q anyway, who knows. I understand what you are saying, but 50 numbers could be a BIG determinant for your QOL down the road when you are actually flying the line. There are no guarantees MHT will be around forever as a crew base. Welcome again to the fun at Colgan! __________________ www.alpa.org

September 15th, 2007, 20:49	#22
USMC-SGT Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: East Posts: 1,019	Re: HIRED Thanks for the info Seggy, I appreciate it. I guess I will know further what is going on when they call me next week I was just trying to get ahead of the game and see if anyone knew off chance what some of the class dates were. Seniority is everything but you want to see bad QOL...try my angry wife when I go to training and she has to move on her own...now that will be some bad QOL. I think id rather take my chances with a lower seniority number, the couch is uncomfortable __________________ .....i have two speeds, walk and kill

September 15th, 2007, 21:25	#23
Cruise Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SYR, ABE Posts: 2,153	Re: HIRED Congrats on the job offer. As far as class schedules go.....I'd venture to guess Colgan doesn't even know that far out yet. A bit ridiculous....but I'm quite certain you're familiar with 'Standby to standby.' There's your answer and that phrase should be the CJC motto. Good idea helping your wife with the move....your marriage will thank you later. Congrats again and welcome.

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