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August 20th, 2007, 19:47
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#1 | | Newbie
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|  Trans States Airlines
I have been hired by TSA and have a class date coming up. Is anyone interested on writing an intelligent review of the company? I understand their wash out rate is high, is this at all due to poor training, or unprepared new hires? Any info would be greatly appreciated. | 
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August 20th, 2007, 19:53
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#2 | | Old Skool
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
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Originally Posted by meo0o7  I have been hired by TSA and have a class date coming up. Is anyone interested on writing an intelligent review of the company? I understand their wash out rate is high, is this at all due to poor training, or unprepared new hires? Any info would be greatly appreciated. | I'd be up for reading it, so write it please!  | |
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August 20th, 2007, 20:42
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#3 | | Old Skool
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
With a name like Waterski it has to be good.
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August 20th, 2007, 20:42
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#4 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
What are your times. I heard that they had a 197 tt in the last class
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August 20th, 2007, 20:57
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#5 | | Old Skool
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
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Originally Posted by bap327 What are your times. I heard that they had a 197 tt in the last class | Yikes....wonder if he washed out!!! | |
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August 20th, 2007, 21:14
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#6 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
197tt! I hope thats a rumor. | |
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August 20th, 2007, 22:02
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#7 | | Old Skool
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
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Originally Posted by bap327 What are your times. I heard that they had a 197 tt in the last class | I spend more time a year on the crapper.
Congrats though on the new hire. 
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Originally Posted by Polar742 I see CJ flying into FLL, Q gettin off the plane. Hotel van is pulled over, she gets removed, and cuffed by the fiveO. Then the frisking begins | | |
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August 20th, 2007, 22:48
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#8 | | Agent Smith
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
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Originally Posted by FiveO I spend more time a year on the crapper.
Congrats though on the new hire. | Can I get a "Hell Yeah" for high fiber diets? | |
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August 20th, 2007, 22:52
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#9 | | Old Skool
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Originally Posted by Doug Taylor Can I get a "Hell Yeah" for high fiber diets? | HELL YEAH!  <- I don't know, that is kinda what my face looks like in the "process". Well at least the eyes. Okay, maybe a bit too much information.
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Originally Posted by Polar742 I see CJ flying into FLL, Q gettin off the plane. Hotel van is pulled over, she gets removed, and cuffed by the fiveO. Then the frisking begins | | |
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August 20th, 2007, 23:09
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#10 | | Old Skool
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
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Originally Posted by Crockrocket94 197tt! I hope thats a rumor. | Had a guy at PCL with about that much TT.
Rumor has it we even hired a guy with no CMEL. Rumor says he thought his SIC checkride would double as his CMEL ride.
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August 20th, 2007, 23:47
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#11 | | Old Skool
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
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Originally Posted by kellwolf Had a guy at PCL with about that much TT.
Rumor has it we even hired a guy with no CMEL. Rumor says he thought his SIC checkride would double as his CMEL ride. | Memo to self, don't fly PNCL NWA express!  | |
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August 21st, 2007, 01:21
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#12 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
It's just a race to the bottom isn't it?
At least Cape Air still has standards -- 1000 total time is the absolute floor (even for the FOs).
Congrads to the original poster by the way!!! It must be a really good feeling when you got the call inviting you for a class date -- knowing that someone wants to hire you.
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August 21st, 2007, 10:32
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#13 | | Newbie
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
Yeah, it's a good feeling I guess. I'm fresh out of UND with 1 year instructing & 500 / 50. | |
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August 21st, 2007, 13:13
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#14 | | Old Skool
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
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Originally Posted by kellwolf Had a guy at PCL with about that much TT.
Rumor has it we even hired a guy with no CMEL. Rumor says he thought his SIC checkride would double as his CMEL ride. | hahaha. . .now that's funny.
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August 21st, 2007, 13:25
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#15 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
I've got a few buddies at TSA now that just finished training and are on IOE.
Make no mistake, they have low hiring mins, but they don't lower their training standards. TSA is known throughout the industry as having very rigorous training. From what I've heard, the training is excellent but they do expect you to be prepared.
Now, the other aspects of that company is another story....
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August 24th, 2007, 15:31
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#16 | | Old Skool
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
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Originally Posted by FiveO I spend more time a year on the crapper.
Congrats though on the new hire. | Stay out of the Dunkin Donuts, Waffle House or Waffle King and you want have that problem......haha
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August 24th, 2007, 20:04
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#17 | | Old Skool
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
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Originally Posted by mikecweb With a name like Waterski it has to be good. | 
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August 24th, 2007, 20:56
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#18 | | Old Skool
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
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Originally Posted by flyTotheSky I've got a few buddies at TSA now that just finished training and are on IOE. Make no mistake, they have low hiring mins, but they don't lower their training standards. TSA is known throughout the industry as having very rigorous training. From what I've heard, the training is excellent but they do expect you to be prepared.
Now, the other aspects of that company is another story.... | Gonna call BS on that one.
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August 25th, 2007, 01:56
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#19 | | Old Skool
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
Gonna call BS on you calling BS because that's what I've heard as well.
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August 25th, 2007, 11:24
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#20 | | Old Skool
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
From the three people I know who have gone through training there and what they have said, I wouldn't say their training is any more rigorous that other places. However, their tolerance for people messing up and the level of difficulty on their checks are respectively lower and higher. | |
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August 27th, 2007, 09:48
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#21 | | Old Skool
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
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Originally Posted by kellwolf Had a guy at PCL with about that much TT.
Rumor has it we even hired a guy with no CMEL. Rumor says he thought his SIC checkride would double as his CMEL ride. | One of my friends just finished indoc at Mesaba and said the same thing about that airline. Apparently one of the guys in his class didn't have a CMEL on his date of hire!
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August 27th, 2007, 10:12
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#22 | | Old Skool
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
What the hell. . .
I'm just going to start apply to companies. Jeez.
I'll also put down my anticipated CMEL checkride date, as the date that I can start work. . .
hahaha. . .(  )
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August 27th, 2007, 23:39
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#23 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
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Originally Posted by surreal1221 What the hell. . .
I'm just going to start apply to companies. Jeez.
I'll also put down my anticipated CMEL checkride date, as the date that I can start work. . .
hahaha. . .( ) | You're way behind me! I put my apps in back when I soloed!!! Does that mean I have a higher seniority number than you? 
On a side note, I see that TSA has raised their mins back to 500/50
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August 28th, 2007, 01:51
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#24 | | Administrator
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
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Originally Posted by meo0o7 I have been hired by TSA and have a class date coming up. Is anyone interested on writing an intelligent review of the company? I understand their wash out rate is high, is this at all due to poor training, or unprepared new hires? Any info would be greatly appreciated. | wait....you mean you didn't review the company first before applying and accepting the job????   | |
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August 28th, 2007, 09:46
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| Re: Trans States Airlines
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Originally Posted by Chris_Ford Gonna call BS on you calling BS because that's what I've heard as well. | John's got some inside info on this one. Gonna call BS on you call his BS on him calling BS. Think it had something to do with his sim partner being from TSA.
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