Commercial SE ride busted.

[aloft]

Wish I was kidding this time.

More in the checkride forum later.

[surreal1221]

Sorry man.

[ILSstud]

Hey man...I too busted my Commercial SE a year or so ago. Funny thing was, I had my multi commercial with the same examiner the day before and he gave me accolades on my flying. My pink slip on the SE consisted of entirely too many maneuvers on a beautiful day! Chin up, don't worry, just retrain a tad and go up there again with a clear head :-) You'll be fine

[Cruise]

D'oh! Sorry to hear that. No big deal though....just clear your head and go get 'em next time.

[dc3flyer]

Too bad man, we have all busted one or two. Just keep a positive outlook and you'll get it next time!

[avi8tor]

Not a big deal. Everybody has a bad day, clear your head and knock it out the next time around.

[Crockrocket94]

SEAD has alot involved with it...

did you do it pt 61?

Anyhow, no biggie, just practice what you learned.

[PGA07]

Live, learn and overcome! No worries, you'll smoke it next time!

[GreenDayPilot]

That's the same one I busted.... sucks... stupid lazy 8's and accuracy landing.... live and learn...

[flyguy]

Let me guess. Power off 180s? That's a tough maneuver, I almost busted for it. I'm not sure if that's what gave you the trouble or not, but once you study for CFI you'll learn about the validity of a test. A valid test basically means that the average person can achieve consitant results. The Power-off 180 is not a valid test because even the best pilots in the world can only get it within PTS about 50% of the time. Depending on what you had trouble with that may or may not be helpfull to you, but whatever it was just keep working at it and you'll Git R Done next ime. Good Luck.

[mtsu_av8er]

Originally Posted by flyguy

The Power-off 180 is not a valid test because even the best pilots in the world can only get it within PTS about 50% of the time.

I don't know anything about the best pilots in the world - I'm not even close. That being said, that maneuver can be done consistently. Yeah, it's difficult, as it should be. But, I think the 50% stuff is a bit extreme . . .

[SIUav8er]

Originally Posted by flyguy

The Power-off 180 is not a valid test because even the best pilots in the world can only get it within PTS about 50% of the time.

I must be the best pilot in the world then... power off 180s are easy if you know where the wind is from

[adreamer]

Learn from it. You will get there one day.

Power off 180s? That's a tough maneuver

I feel weird now because I like to do power off 180. However, I have my PPL instructors to thank for that. He taught that maneuver as part of emergency training for my PPL rating.

[taseal]

to make you feel better I failed my private 3 times (1 ground ref manuevers, and 2 on landing)

I'm sure you feel better now! checkrides scare the crap out of me, I hope i'll overcome them soon lol

[taseal]

its funny you guys talk about power off 180s.

my CFI and I practiced this a few times because he wanted me to know it just incase. I'm actually pretty good at it, and that was back when I was a student pilot. as a matter of fact, its one of my fav manuevers hehe

[aloft]

Originally Posted by SIUav8er

I must be the best pilot in the world then... power off 180s are easy if you know where the wind is from

Ok, so tell me where the wind was from. Here's the METAR:

KCOS 161954Z 18007KT 130V220 10SM FEW100 33/00 A3017 RMK AO2 SLP105 T03280000

[zmiller4]

Originally Posted by SIUav8er

I must be the best pilot in the world then... power off 180s are easy if you know where the wind is from

Nah, it's not an easy maneuver to perform to PTS. 200ft is generally about one centerline stripe and the space before the next one, which is not a huge distance to hit. Wind is almost never constant from 1000' on the downwind to the surface, temperature is rarely the same, and the aircraft's weight can vary a lot. That makes it really difficult to repeat with any consistency. I got pretty good at them, but that was only because I did a *ton* of them in training (a lot of CFI/Comm students at my school had been busting rides on them). Setting targets for airspeed and altitude works OK on a completely calm day, but in this case the wind was all over the place (and probably really good up and down drafts, too).

[bike21]

Originally Posted by taseal

its funny you guys talk about power off 180s.

my CFI and I practiced this a few times because he wanted me to know it just incase. I'm actually pretty good at it, and that was back when I was a student pilot. as a matter of fact, its one of my fav manuevers hehe

Every pilot thinks he/she is the best pilot on Earth


Aloft - no worries man, you will bounce back and the examiner how its done! WORD UP!

[mhcasey]

Originally Posted by aloft

Ok, so tell me where the wind was from. Here's the METAR:

KCOS 161954Z 18007KT 130V220 10SM FEW100 33/00 A3017 RMK AO2 SLP105 T03280000

180 @ 7 variable between 130 and 220?

Sorry to hear about the bust man. I'm sure you'll dominate next time around.

As far as power off 180's...nobody said they had to be super soft. Turn in early, dump full flaps and the gear when you're getting close, and fly that mofo onto your spot! Just kidding...sort of.

[wrxpilot]

Originally Posted by mhcasey

180 @ 7 variable between 130 and 220?

Sorry to hear about the bust man. I'm sure you'll dominate next time around.

As far as power off 180's...nobody said they had to be super soft. Turn in early, dump full flaps and the gear when you're getting close, and fly that mofo onto your spot! Just kidding...sort of.

That's true though, and something that my CFI had to drill into my thick skull. I kept trying to nail my 180 pwr offs and short fields with nice, soft flared landings. Not at all necessary... Just flare enough to arrest the sink rate. You might still be going faster than optimal for a real appch, but YOU CAN hit the PTS mark - and that's what matters for the comm and CFI.