New To JETCAREERS!!

scubayachts · January 14th, 2007, 10:33

Hello,
I would like to take this time to introduce myself. I have been a long time reader of jet careers and thought this would be a good time to make my first post. I am a 19 year old sophemore in college here at st.leo university in pasco county florida. I am a pilot wanabee big time. I am planning on finishing this last symester here at st.leo and then transfer to yep here it comes Embry -Riddle. I feel that it would help me get all my ratings and a college degree at the same time. I know most of you would say go to an FBO and do your ratings there but i dont want to have to do school and go somewhere else in my off time to do my ratings. I will be doing my private at Clearwater Executive airport before i head off to riddle. So agian thanks everyone for this great site and readings! Gregg

dc3flyer · January 14th, 2007, 10:39

Welcome!

caliginousface · January 14th, 2007, 10:41

Don't do it mangsta! Save your $$ and go somewhere else.

scubayachts · January 14th, 2007, 10:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by caliginousface

Don't do it mangsta! Save your $$ and go somewhere else.

Can you elaborate alittle more on go somewhere else? What is so wrong about riddle guys?

PacMan4x4 · January 14th, 2007, 11:38

SCUBA....I think you'll find that the biggest complaint about Riddle from folks who didn't attend...and maybe from some that did is the $$ factor. Riddle charges an assload of money to get a degree and flight training. Since you are already in school and coming up on halfway through, I'd suggest you stick it out at St. Leo's for another 2 years and keep taking lessons at the FBO. Though you've already indicated you don't want to do that, so I'ts really gonna be up to you anyhow and if you got the $$ to piss away then by all means do it. I don't mean piss away as in it's a bad program...I mean you could be money ahead by sticking with the route you are currently doing.

Oh..Welcome to JC.

Pac Man

Kristie · January 14th, 2007, 11:41

it's just a seriously high expense that you could deter from...there's no need to spend that much money on something that's going to take you years to pay off. plus, getting an aviation degree unless it's aviation mgmt doesn't really help as a backup plan (from what i've heard).. backup plan being if you lose your medical, get furloughed etc.

heck, you could take half the money you'd give to riddle, stick it in an accruing bank account and use it to offset your first years instructor or airline pay!

take a look at all the perspectives on the front page of the website and the threads that talk about backup careers and it'll give you a little more insight on why a regular 4 yr college and studying at an FBO would probably be better in the long run....

scubayachts · January 14th, 2007, 13:13

Thanks guys for all of your posts and concern already. The money part of riddle is not that big of a deal. My parents are footing the bill and not to sound snobby or stuck up but the moneys the least of my worrys. I would be majoring in business admin. if i went to riddle so i could have that "backup plan" if needed. How overall is riddle looked uppon by airlines to hire you and also the way corporate hiring goes? Thanks agian!

Kristie · January 14th, 2007, 13:19

the airlines and most jobs don't care what school you went to...that's why it'd be best to save those duckets for a much needed time like after school!

yea, your parents may be footing the bill...but they'll probably ask for that back somewhere down the road (at least mine did with the "well, we DID put you thru college" type crap) and they'd probably appreciate you trying to save them some $$ too... who knows..

UCF has a pretty good business admin section and they're not nearly as costly as Riddle

Doug Taylor · January 14th, 2007, 13:33

I'm going to be completely blunt which may get me in trouble, but it's just my honest observations. I may be wrong, but the following is just my perspective:

If you're hellbent on Riddle, studying business is good because it can serve as a decent foundation for other fields of study. A business degree and $3.50 can get you a moccachino at Starbucks, but I think it's $4.25 with an Aeronautical Science degree. If you're a smart kid, I'd look into aeronautical engineering or electrical engineering because their engineering programs are world renown for those two fields of study.

If you're going to invest that much cash in your future, maximize your potential by getting a kickass degree. And you can still fly.

Aeronautical Science was fun the first couple semesters but I was bored to death because I spent most of my high school career in advanced placement courses, language, science, mathematics, etc. And the AS program seemed like it was nothing more than the minimum course requirements to satisfy the board of accreditation so they could call it a four year degree. "Maff for piolets", "Werld Hisstory fer people who really don't care" and "I Can't Believe It's Not High School Fizzzicks". Seemed like I came out of college academically dumber than when I graduated high school.

Here's the part that's going to probably get me in trouble if I don't word it correctly.

Yes, airlines positively recognize the ERAU name because you're a 'known quantity' candidate for a job. HOWEVER, I'm not sure if the name alone opens doors or not. Having ERAU on your resume when you're applying for a job is a positive, but so is UCLA, USC and Rutgers.

I'm an ERAU alumni and at the time, it was much more reasonably priced than it is now. We're talking $1650 tuition, $50/hr for a 172, $120/hr for a Seminole back in the day. ERAU lost a lot of my support when their prices shot through the roof and they tried to rebrand themselves as "The Harvard of the Skies" along with the assinine "CAPT" program where they tried to target students that were attracted to places like Delta Connection Academy.

And we all know how I feel about Delta Connection Academy.

There's quite a few ERAU alumni on the site, be sure to ask lots of them for their opinions. The answers are going to vary and realize that we're all right and we're all wrong!

SRA_kbad · January 14th, 2007, 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristie

save those duckets

LOL...Thats awsome. I haven't heard that in years!!!

Welcome to the forums Scuba. Lots of crazy peeps on here to help you out.

frog_flyer · January 14th, 2007, 15:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

If you're a smart kid, I'd look into aeronautical engineering or electrical engineering because their engineering programs are world renown for those two fields of study.

If you do that, consider doing Air Force ROTC. You'd get a Type II scholarship and get 15k a year for tuition, 600 for books, and 350 a month tax free stipend, as well at a shot a pilot slot.

Something to consider.

H46Bubba · January 14th, 2007, 16:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

I'm going to be completely blunt which may get me in trouble, but it's just my honest observations. I may be wrong, but the following is just my perspective:

If you're hellbent on Riddle, studying business is good because it can serve as a decent foundation for other fields of study. A business degree and $3.50 can get you a moccachino at Starbucks, but I think it's $4.25 with an Aeronautical Science degree. If you're a smart kid, I'd look into aeronautical engineering or electrical engineering because their engineering programs are world renown for those two fields of study.

If you're going to invest that much cash in your future, maximize your potential by getting a kickass degree. And you can still fly.

Aeronautical Science was fun the first couple semesters but I was bored to death because I spent most of my high school career in advanced placement courses, language, science, mathematics, etc. And the AS program seemed like it was nothing more than the minimum course requirements to satisfy the board of accreditation so they could call it a four year degree. "Maff for piolets", "Werld Hisstory fer people who really don't care" and "I Can't Believe It's Not High School Fizzzicks". Seemed like I came out of college academically dumber than when I graduated high school.

Here's the part that's going to probably get me in trouble if I don't word it correctly.

Yes, airlines positively recognize the ERAU name because you're a 'known quantity' candidate for a job. HOWEVER, I'm not sure if the name alone opens doors or not. Having ERAU on your resume when you're applying for a job is a positive, but so is UCLA, USC and Rutgers.

I'm an ERAU alumni and at the time, it was much more reasonably priced than it is now. We're talking $1650 tuition, $50/hr for a 172, $120/hr for a Seminole back in the day. ERAU lost a lot of my support when their prices shot through the roof and they tried to rebrand themselves as "The Harvard of the Skies" along with the assinine "CAPT" program where they tried to target students that were attracted to places like Delta Connection Academy.

And we all know how I feel about Delta Connection Academy.

There's quite a few ERAU alumni on the site, be sure to ask lots of them for their opinions. The answers are going to vary and realize that we're all right and we're all wrong!

Hey what's wrong with DCA?

Doug Taylor · January 14th, 2007, 16:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by H46Bubba

Hey what's wrong with DCA?

You may be bigger and tougher than I but I'm far sneakier!

H46Bubba · January 14th, 2007, 16:59

Are you threatening me? heee heeh heeh (in the Cornhoolio voice)

DE727UPS · January 14th, 2007, 23:51

"Maff for piolets"

It was MA311, Calculus for Aviatior's. I got a C+.

CaptainChris87 · January 14th, 2007, 23:57

hey welcome aboard man, I too am a technically speaking college sophmore (credit wise) 19 year old, look into other flight schools in fullfilling your goals, any quesions PM or IM me!

surreal1221 · January 15th, 2007, 03:02

Awe, well first, welcome to JC.

Do your parents a favor, and get your BA/BS in something other than aviation, at a nice state school, and train at an FBO (part 61 or 141). They will thank you.

E_Dawg · January 15th, 2007, 04:04

I'm going through the motions on riddle online. Believe me, it's a joke - but don't tell anyone. I guess if I was really into it I could learn something esoteric and trivial. But I've learned more from my own personal reading and travel since I stopped taking classes 6 months ago.

Gonna finish 'er up here pretty soon. Minimal effort is enough to score solid Bs and a few As. Not that I want to have to try harder - I don't - but really, shouldn't a college degree involve more??? Maybe this is a gripe about colleges in general as I really don't enjoy being 'forced' to learn something (and I've done online and in-person at a different school), but then Riddle seems to be pretty bad in that regard. The best classes I've ever had were at a non-aviation school in a non-aviation field.

I kind of resent having to go through the motions when I guarantee I could be learning a lot more if I had discretionary use of the time I waste on riddle. But hey, I can 'check the box', right?

If I could do it over, I'd do the exact same thing. The system set up the way it is, I feel like I took full advantage of it. Time and money wise, I got a lot of bang for the buck (online is cheaper and did the training pt.61 on my own time and cash schedule). A close second would have been go to a state school and get a non-aviation degree. But you lose seniority and possibly therefore earning potential, whatever that's worth.

A degree shouldn't be required in aviation, and if it has to be, then it should be required to mean something.

Anyway, have fun at riddle!

scubayachts · January 15th, 2007, 14:05

Thanks everyone agian for your input. This site really has a lot of good information and reading material for people like me that are thinking of getting into aviation. I am still keeping my options open and would consider going to a state school and at the same time do some of my ratings at a FBO. Are there any good FBO's in pinellas or pasco county that are good for me to do my ratings at? Thanks agian everyone!

caliginousface · January 15th, 2007, 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by PacMan4x4

SCUBA....I think you'll find that the biggest complaint about Riddle from folks who didn't attend...and maybe from some that did is the $$ factor. Riddle charges an assload of money to get a degree and flight training. Since you are already in school and coming up on halfway through, I'd suggest you stick it out at St. Leo's for another 2 years and keep taking lessons at the FBO. Though you've already indicated you don't want to do that, so I'ts really gonna be up to you anyhow and if you got the $$ to piss away then by all means do it. I don't mean piss away as in it's a bad program...I mean you could be money ahead by sticking with the route you are currently doing.

Oh..Welcome to JC.

Pac Man

For the record, I did go, but I left. :*

Triumph_in_the_skies · January 16th, 2007, 17:05

Welcome Greg, hope you enjoy ur time here

scubayachts · January 16th, 2007, 22:59

Hey welcome to you to triumph! Happy flying!

January 14th, 2007, 10:33	#1
scubayachts Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: At school. And New port richey Posts: 24	New To JETCAREERS!! Hello, I would like to take this time to introduce myself. I have been a long time reader of jet careers and thought this would be a good time to make my first post. I am a 19 year old sophemore in college here at st.leo university in pasco county florida. I am a pilot wanabee big time. I am planning on finishing this last symester here at st.leo and then transfer to yep here it comes Embry -Riddle. I feel that it would help me get all my ratings and a college degree at the same time. I know most of you would say go to an FBO and do your ratings there but i dont want to have to do school and go somewhere else in my off time to do my ratings. I will be doing my private at Clearwater Executive airport before i head off to riddle. So agian thanks everyone for this great site and readings! Gregg

January 14th, 2007, 10:39	#2
dc3flyer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Everywhere Posts: 1,108	Re: New To JETCAREERS!! Welcome!

January 14th, 2007, 10:41	#3
caliginousface Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: san jose, ca Posts: 2,025	Re: New To JETCAREERS!! Don't do it mangsta! Save your $$ and go somewhere else. __________________

January 14th, 2007, 11:38	#5
PacMan4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: OK City Posts: 462	Re: New To JETCAREERS!! SCUBA....I think you'll find that the biggest complaint about Riddle from folks who didn't attend...and maybe from some that did is the $$ factor. Riddle charges an assload of money to get a degree and flight training. Since you are already in school and coming up on halfway through, I'd suggest you stick it out at St. Leo's for another 2 years and keep taking lessons at the FBO. Though you've already indicated you don't want to do that, so I'ts really gonna be up to you anyhow and if you got the $$ to piss away then by all means do it. I don't mean piss away as in it's a bad program...I mean you could be money ahead by sticking with the route you are currently doing. Oh..Welcome to JC. Pac Man

January 14th, 2007, 11:41	#6
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 17,705 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New To JETCAREERS!! it's just a seriously high expense that you could deter from...there's no need to spend that much money on something that's going to take you years to pay off. plus, getting an aviation degree unless it's aviation mgmt doesn't really help as a backup plan (from what i've heard).. backup plan being if you lose your medical, get furloughed etc. heck, you could take half the money you'd give to riddle, stick it in an accruing bank account and use it to offset your first years instructor or airline pay! take a look at all the perspectives on the front page of the website and the threads that talk about backup careers and it'll give you a little more insight on why a regular 4 yr college and studying at an FBO would probably be better in the long run.... __________________ Wife of a Delta B767 ER F/O jetgirls.net

January 14th, 2007, 13:13	#7
scubayachts Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: At school. And New port richey Posts: 24	Re: New To JETCAREERS!! Thanks guys for all of your posts and concern already. The money part of riddle is not that big of a deal. My parents are footing the bill and not to sound snobby or stuck up but the moneys the least of my worrys. I would be majoring in business admin. if i went to riddle so i could have that "backup plan" if needed. How overall is riddle looked uppon by airlines to hire you and also the way corporate hiring goes? Thanks agian!

January 14th, 2007, 13:19	#8
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 17,705 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New To JETCAREERS!! the airlines and most jobs don't care what school you went to...that's why it'd be best to save those duckets for a much needed time like after school! yea, your parents may be footing the bill...but they'll probably ask for that back somewhere down the road (at least mine did with the "well, we DID put you thru college" type crap) and they'd probably appreciate you trying to save them some $$ too... who knows.. UCF has a pretty good business admin section and they're not nearly as costly as Riddle __________________ Wife of a Delta B767 ER F/O jetgirls.net

January 14th, 2007, 13:33	#9
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 39,824 Blog Entries: 1	Re: New To JETCAREERS!! I'm going to be completely blunt which may get me in trouble, but it's just my honest observations. I may be wrong, but the following is just my perspective: If you're hellbent on Riddle, studying business is good because it can serve as a decent foundation for other fields of study. A business degree and $3.50 can get you a moccachino at Starbucks, but I think it's $4.25 with an Aeronautical Science degree. If you're a smart kid, I'd look into aeronautical engineering or electrical engineering because their engineering programs are world renown for those two fields of study. If you're going to invest that much cash in your future, maximize your potential by getting a kickass degree. And you can still fly. Aeronautical Science was fun the first couple semesters but I was bored to death because I spent most of my high school career in advanced placement courses, language, science, mathematics, etc. And the AS program seemed like it was nothing more than the minimum course requirements to satisfy the board of accreditation so they could call it a four year degree. "Maff for piolets", "Werld Hisstory fer people who really don't care" and "I Can't Believe It's Not High School Fizzzicks". Seemed like I came out of college academically dumber than when I graduated high school. Here's the part that's going to probably get me in trouble if I don't word it correctly. Yes, airlines positively recognize the ERAU name because you're a 'known quantity' candidate for a job. HOWEVER, I'm not sure if the name alone opens doors or not. Having ERAU on your resume when you're applying for a job is a positive, but so is UCLA, USC and Rutgers. I'm an ERAU alumni and at the time, it was much more reasonably priced than it is now. We're talking $1650 tuition, $50/hr for a 172, $120/hr for a Seminole back in the day. ERAU lost a lot of my support when their prices shot through the roof and they tried to rebrand themselves as "The Harvard of the Skies" along with the assinine "CAPT" program where they tried to target students that were attracted to places like Delta Connection Academy. And we all know how I feel about Delta Connection Academy. There's quite a few ERAU alumni on the site, be sure to ask lots of them for their opinions. The answers are going to vary and realize that we're all right and we're all wrong!

January 14th, 2007, 16:59	#14
H46Bubba Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: CVG Posts: 4,095	Re: New To JETCAREERS!! Are you threatening me? heee heeh heeh (in the Cornhoolio voice)

January 14th, 2007, 23:51	#15
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,481	Re: New To JETCAREERS!! "Maff for piolets" It was MA311, Calculus for Aviatior's. I got a C+.

January 14th, 2007, 23:57	#16
CaptainChris87 Old Skool Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,754	Re: New To JETCAREERS!! hey welcome aboard man, I too am a technically speaking college sophmore (credit wise) 19 year old, look into other flight schools in fullfilling your goals, any quesions PM or IM me! __________________ -CP/MEL-IR;AGI -Former Airline Intern/Sightseeing tours pilot -A.A.: Transfer studies, admission to UC Santa Barbara and Cal state -Business Administration:Finance Major C/O Fall 2009

January 15th, 2007, 03:02	#17
surreal1221 Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alpha Tango Lima Posts: 8,655	Re: New To JETCAREERS!! Awe, well first, welcome to JC. Do your parents a favor, and get your BA/BS in something other than aviation, at a nice state school, and train at an FBO (part 61 or 141). They will thank you. __________________ AGI.MEI.CFI.CFII.FO.CRJ2 \| Josh \|The TRoP \| Ramble On \|ALPA \| Your DD-214 is where?

January 15th, 2007, 04:04	#18
E_Dawg Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: chicago Posts: 4,147	Re: New To JETCAREERS!! I'm going through the motions on riddle online. Believe me, it's a joke - but don't tell anyone. I guess if I was really into it I could learn something esoteric and trivial. But I've learned more from my own personal reading and travel since I stopped taking classes 6 months ago. Gonna finish 'er up here pretty soon. Minimal effort is enough to score solid Bs and a few As. Not that I want to have to try harder - I don't - but really, shouldn't a college degree involve more??? Maybe this is a gripe about colleges in general as I really don't enjoy being 'forced' to learn something (and I've done online and in-person at a different school), but then Riddle seems to be pretty bad in that regard. The best classes I've ever had were at a non-aviation school in a non-aviation field. I kind of resent having to go through the motions when I guarantee I could be learning a lot more if I had discretionary use of the time I waste on riddle. But hey, I can 'check the box', right? If I could do it over, I'd do the exact same thing. The system set up the way it is, I feel like I took full advantage of it. Time and money wise, I got a lot of bang for the buck (online is cheaper and did the training pt.61 on my own time and cash schedule). A close second would have been go to a state school and get a non-aviation degree. But you lose seniority and possibly therefore earning potential, whatever that's worth. A degree shouldn't be required in aviation, and if it has to be, then it should be required to mean something. Anyway, have fun at riddle! __________________ Yeah, I just stare at my desk; but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch, too. I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work.

January 15th, 2007, 14:05	#19
scubayachts Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: At school. And New port richey Posts: 24	Re: New To JETCAREERS!! Thanks everyone agian for your input. This site really has a lot of good information and reading material for people like me that are thinking of getting into aviation. I am still keeping my options open and would consider going to a state school and at the same time do some of my ratings at a FBO. Are there any good FBO's in pinellas or pasco county that are good for me to do my ratings at? Thanks agian everyone!

January 16th, 2007, 17:05	#21
Triumph_in_the_skies Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 28	Re: New To JETCAREERS!! Welcome Greg, hope you enjoy ur time here

January 16th, 2007, 22:59	#22
scubayachts Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: At school. And New port richey Posts: 24	Re: New To JETCAREERS!! Hey welcome to you to triumph! Happy flying!

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