Interview offer from EAGLE!!!

[viper548]

A couple days ago I got an email from American Eagle offering me an interview. I applied 2 years ago and they offered me an interview then, but I didn't go because I was in training at SkyWest. Why are they sending interview offers to people that applied 2 years ago and didn't interview then?

[ready2fly]

Originally Posted by viper548

Why are they sending interview offers to people that applied 2 years ago and didn't interview then?

Because they have been having problems with people not showing up for interviews/classes.

Not because it's a crappy place to work - it's not. Actually a great place. But, the upgrade time is non-existant at the current time.

HOWEVER - American has just announced that they will start recalling their furloughed pilots - which means the pilots that "flowed back" to Eagle, so things will change in the near future.

Still probably looking at a 4-5 year upgrade time out of the box though. Just MHO.

R2F

[LoadMasterC141]

From an onlookers view, Eagle does not seem like a very appetizing prospect compared to most regionals. Their upgrade times, specifically, are ridiculous from what I can see. Perhaps they are a bit more secure than most because AMR owns them, but sitting in the right seat for 5-8 years probably negates that for alot of prospective new hires.

So, to answer...
1) Desperation?
2) Clerical error?

[Timbuff10]

Any way to know what base you will get before you start training?

[alphaone]

I'm a sophmore in college with my IFR ticket and 140 hrs. If Eagle gave me an interview and than a job, I would probably drop out of college to go work for them. God I want to fly for a living.

[triple7]

I went to the interview last week in Dallas and they basically told us that they were looking to fill two classes a month with 20 pilots each till the end of the year, then looking to put 30 a class twice a month after the 1st. They anticipate a big recall and upgrade times to get a little more realistic, but not alot of people (outsiders looking for work) believe that. So, they are apparently having a problem with filling classes. The week before I interviewed there were 20 scheduled in a class.....8 showed. all got Boston jet. They tell you on the first day of class what slots are open, and you pick based on seniority......oldest goes first. I didnt get the gig though, not sure why....different story.

[Captain_Bob]

Originally Posted by Timbuff10

Any way to know what base you will get before you start training?

Just apply Tim! If you want LAX you'll most likely get it. It's fairly junior for the Saab. Even if you don't get it right off... just wait for a perm bid or two and I'm sure you can get there.

I've got a couple of buddies basd in LA for Eagle... they live in Manhattan Beach. If you'd like... I'll put you in touch with them.

Bob

[Captain_Bob]

Originally Posted by alphaone

I'm a sophmore in college with my IFR ticket and 140 hrs. If Eagle gave me an interview and than a job, I would probably drop out of college to go work for them. God I want to fly for a living.

Don't let Doug here you say that...

Staying in school... is cool!

[surreal1221]

Not only are the upgrade times sick. . . the time spent on reserve are above and beyond any other regional.

[Timbuff10]

Hmmm, I don't know yet Bob, I think I will hold out for a while and see how this thing with Frontier and the Q400s go. Thanks though, I will definetly keep that in mind and will keep looking into it. Sounds like Eagle will be hiring like mad!

I just want to make sure I have that warm fuzzy feeling wherever I apply to, weather that be instructing or regionals.

[Captain_Bob]

Understood sir...

[pavelump]

Originally Posted by Captain_Bob

Just apply Tim! If you want LAX you'll most likely get it. It's fairly junior for the Saab. Even if you don't get it right off... just wait for a perm bid or two and I'm sure you can get there.

I've got a couple of buddies basd in LA for Eagle... they live in Manhattan Beach. If you'd like... I'll put you in touch with them.

Bob

Not necessarily... First, you'd need to be in an airplane that flies out of LA, i.e. ERJ or Saab. While the Saab is very junior in LA, the jet is quite senior. So, if you happen to be lucky enough to get the Saab in DFW, then yes you could easily transfer to LA, but if you get the ERJ it might be a while. And if you get something else, then well you get the idea...

The problem is that you don't have any idea of what's available until day one of the class. Sometimes the recruiters will give you an idea, but many times their crystal ball is just as fuzzy as mine...

[Timbuff10]

I see on their website now their mins are hard at 1000/100 and only accept lower times if you pay thousands of dollars to some bridge program.

With my luck, they would assign me to the ATR or whatever it is they fly out of San Juan. I think I would rather spend my weekends skiing than move to PR... Not to mention they also say you can plan on being on reserve for 6-12 months. Ouch!

[meritflyer]

Originally Posted by alphaone

I'm a sophmore in college with my IFR ticket and 140 hrs. If Eagle gave me an interview and than a job, I would probably drop out of college to go work for them. God I want to fly for a living.

No you wouldnt. I'd beat you.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by alphaone

I'm a sophmore in college with my IFR ticket and 140 hrs. If Eagle gave me an interview and than a job, I would probably drop out of college to go work for them. God I want to fly for a living.

Easy there fella.....

[crashmbern]

I've been at eagle for 8 months and i have already moved up 200 numbers. Most people are leaving to go to skywest and a few other places. Skywest is the only place i would leave eagle for. But I live in NY and cannot wait to be based out of LGA just a 30 minute drive away.

But anyway especially with the flowbacks possibly leaving this place might be the place to be. Only a few other regionals are expanding and with flowbacks going back to AA that is growth in my mind as a FO. I figured if the flowbacks all left today I would be about 300-400 numbers away from a saab captain. But people look and say WOW 7 Year upgrade I'll go elsewhere. But remember its the people that are upgrading today that took 7 years doesn't mean a new hire will take 7 years.

Especially with the regional industry today any airline can become a 7 year upgrade. Eagle is probably one of the best places to be if you going to be stuck.

[alphaone]

Frankly flying a jet all day would be more amusing than sitting through philosophy class.

[wheelsup]

Originally Posted by alphaone

Frankly flying a jet all day would be more amusing than sitting through philosophy class.

Naa, it sucks man. Pretty boring. You start really looking forward to your time off after about 6 months on the job.

I haven't been to work in 16 days and it's pretty freaking sweet. I honestly could go the entire year without once going to work. Once you hit the real world you'll understand!

[Maximillian_Jenius]

Does Eagle still have the astronaut physical or have they come down to the reality of other regionals yet?

[Captain_Bob]

Originally Posted by Timbuff10

I just want to make sure I have that warm fuzzy feeling wherever I apply to, weather that be instructing or regionals.

Tim... I had a bit of time to think about your response above...

The fact is... you most likely won't ever get that warm fuzzy feeling going into the 121 environment... but I suppose you can get close.

Originally Posted by Timbuff10

Sounds like Eagle will be hiring like mad!

That's usually the time to get on at most regionals... hopefully at the head of the wave... and with upward movement too. Sounds like Eagles will start moving along soon.

Originally Posted by Timbuff10

Bob, I think I will hold out for a while and see how this thing with Frontier and the Q400s go.

Don't bet on 1 airplane and 1 carrier for a career choice. What happens if things with Frontier and the Q400's do go... and... you can't get an interview... or don't get hired? If you really wanted it... would you be better applying with 121 experience? Just some thoughts...

Bob

[crashmbern]

Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

Does Eagle still have the astronaut physical or have they come down to the reality of other regionals yet?

they still have a tough medical, they just got rid of the cognitive test recently. dont get me started on that.

[Timbuff10]

Originally Posted by Captain_Bob

Tim... I had a bit of time to think about your response above...

The fact is... you most likely won't ever get that warm fuzzy feeling going into the 121 environment... but I suppose you can get close.

That's usually the time to get on at most regionals... hopefully at the head of the wave... and with upward movement too. Sounds like Eagles will start moving along soon.

Don't bet on 1 airplane and 1 carrier for a career choice. What happens if things with Frontier and the Q400's do go... and... you can't get an interview... or don't get hired? If you really wanted it... would you be better applying with 121 experience? Just some thoughts...

Bob

Bob, couldn't agree more with you on everything there. Thing is I don't really have the times yet to be choosy with regionals. Just a few hours shy of 700 but at least I have the multi time from ATP in my pocket. I like instructing if it is in the right situation so I am fine with that. Hopefully I can find a fun place in So Cal when we get there. Right now I'm thinking the Frontier thing would be great if I can fenagle my way into that somehow, Skywest would be cool and I like their bases, even Great Lakes would work in another year or so when we start thinking about moving back to Denver. Horizon also has Q400s, I really do like that airplane.

Until then, I figure as long as I keep building experience, time, and having fun with it, and it doesn't piss the wife off (see being apart for long periods of time), an airline job will present itself. Regionals have been around for a long time, I am sure they will continue to.

[kellwolf]

Originally Posted by alphaone

Frankly flying a jet all day would be more amusing than sitting through philosophy class.

Dude, stick with class. You'll thank yourself later. I just found out from Riddle that I have to take ENG123, freaking composition, b/c the AP Exam I took back in 93 (which counted at Miss State for 6 hours of English) doesn't count for jack as far as they're concerned. So, I could have either a) waited until I had 1,000 PIC hours to get credit for my flight ratings (36 hours of credit and I have about 860 hours PIC, no more until I upgrade unless I wanna pay for it in a 172) or b) re-filed under another catalog year to get the credits and take comp. Seeing as taking comp will be annoying yet quicker, I took the lesser of two evils. I'd rather be in philosophy class with you than taking comp, but it's a means to an end: the degree.

I've been surprised how much I've moved up in 6 months here. I've jumped over 100 seniority spots, and we're not even growing.

[OldTownPilot]

Originally Posted by kellwolf

I've been surprised how much I've moved up in 6 months here. I've jumped over 100 seniority spots, and we're not even growing.

Is that 100 guys above you leaving? Wow thats a lot of attrition.

[zmiller4]

The problem is that you don't have any idea of what's available until day one of the class. Sometimes the recruiters will give you an idea, but many times their crystal ball is just as fuzzy as mine...

This is, in my opinion, the biggest reason that so many are getting out of eagle. They have four aircraft, three of which have only two bases that are relatively close to each other. Since they don't give you any idea what aircraft you're going to be, it's completely impossible to plan for life at eagle. They're basically limiting themselves to young, single people who are adventurous enough to go wherever eagle tells them to. This is the reason there's been a number of people walking out on the first day of class.

Other than that, it's probably among the most stable regionals out there, and the pay and work rules aren't bad at all, especially once you get off reserve.

I am going to enjoy my 18 days off next month that fall in between my commutable 4- and 3-days a lot more than I did my last month at eagle (on reserve) though.

Originally Posted by crashmbern

they still have a tough medical, they just got rid of the cognitive test recently. dont get me started on that.

But it was so fun!