Going back to Comair

H46Bubba · September 19th, 2006, 20:35

Well I've had enough of Mesa for a lifetime. I just got the call today for the job offer in CVG. Now I can actually afford to buy a house and some land. Now I can get paid salery. I'll be doing the same job, just a different airline. I start on the 9th, so now I've got to scramble to get things in motion. Does anyone know of a good FBO to train at in CVG?

Maximillian_Jenius · September 19th, 2006, 20:39

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Originally Posted by H46Bubba

Well I've had enough of Mesa for a lifetime. I just got the call today for the job offer in CVG. Now I can actually afford to buy a house and some land. Now I can get paid salery. I'll be doing the same job, just a different airline. I start on the 9th, so now I've got to scramble to get things in motion. Does anyone know of a good FBO to train at in CVG?

Wow...so quick and I think that I only saw you once since you moved here! Good luck Howard!

surreal1221 · September 19th, 2006, 20:42

Smart move. Best of luck to you, but you won't need much. Comair is a great company.

Maximillian_Jenius · September 19th, 2006, 20:53

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Originally Posted by surreal1221

Smart move. Best of luck to you, but you won't need much. Comair is a great company.

Is it...? Maybe for regular employees but pilots and FA's might seriously beg to differ!

SpiraMirabilis · September 19th, 2006, 21:00

What about Mesa's training contract?

Kristie · September 19th, 2006, 21:08

that bad eh?

Doug Taylor · September 19th, 2006, 21:35

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Originally Posted by H46Bubba

Well I've had enough of Mesa for a lifetime. I just got the call today for the job offer in CVG. Now I can actually afford to buy a house and some land. Now I can get paid salery. I'll be doing the same job, just a different airline. I start on the 9th, so now I've got to scramble to get things in motion. Does anyone know of a good FBO to train at in CVG?

Yowza.

Must be "real fun" at YV?

OldTownPilot · September 19th, 2006, 22:19

Comair is probably better than Mesa.

If I remember right you are an A&P.

CMR has shrunk and lost about 20% of its flying. Delta has been slowly reducing our CVG flying and giving it to CHQ mostly and ASA. JFK has grown for us in the past 2 years. I dont see CMR growing at all (even with the cuts) in the short term, I will have to check my crystal ball for the long term outlook, but I do see CMR around for a while, but most likely sold off. It is a good thing Butrell is gone, he was nothing but trouble for the employees. Bornhurst has been with CMR for a long time, and really cares about the company. His "complete utter devistation" remarks was truely him after the 191 crash.

Welcome to the team.

surreal1221 · September 20th, 2006, 17:49

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Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

Is it...? Maybe for regular employees but pilots and FA's might seriously beg to differ!

I still hold all the widget flying regionals to a high regard. . . minus the Mesa junk out of MCO.

H46Bubba · September 20th, 2006, 21:05

Actually I'm a rehire. Actually both the other applicant picked and myself are returning Comair employees. I was treated a lot better at CMR than at YV. Dob't get em wrong I met some great individuals, but about 95% of employees need people skills. We're ready to drop the gear and put in the gear pins i.e. settle down for a while. PHX is almost as bad as California as far as housing prices go and I don't want to live out in the boonies to get good housing prices.

Kingairer · September 20th, 2006, 21:39

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Originally Posted by OldTownPilot

Comair is probably better than Mesa.

If I remember right you are an A&P.

CMR has shrunk and lost about 20% of its flying. Delta has been slowly reducing our CVG flying and giving it to CHQ mostly and ASA. JFK has grown for us in the past 2 years. I dont see CMR growing at all (even with the cuts) in the short term, I will have to check my crystal ball for the long term outlook, but I do see CMR around for a while, but most likely sold off. It is a good thing Butrell is gone, he was nothing but trouble for the employees. Bornhurst has been with CMR for a long time, and really cares about the company. His "complete utter devistation" remarks was truely him after the 191 crash.

Welcome to the team.

And Delta gave "CHQ's" Flying to Mesa (Freedom). CHQ hasnt added any...so you see it all returns to mesa!

Jason · September 20th, 2006, 22:49

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Originally Posted by H46Bubba

Does anyone know of a good FBO to train at in CVG?

The options are pretty limited unfortunatley. Shoot me a pm with your email address and I'll send you a rundown of all of the various FBO's if you'r einterested.

Jason

OldTownPilot · September 21st, 2006, 01:02

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Originally Posted by Kingairer

And Delta gave "CHQ's" Flying to Mesa (Freedom). CHQ hasnt added any...so you see it all returns to mesa!

Most of CHQs flying went from MCO to CVG, replacing CMR, where I am a lot more familiar with the operations. (both CMR and CVG wise) All of concourse A is CHQ now, even ASA is over in C. Both CMR and CHQ got the screws in MCO with Freedom, and their JFK dash 8 opperation is horrendus. Freedumb even has quite a sizeable opperation in ATL.

Maximillian_Jenius · September 21st, 2006, 01:31

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Originally Posted by OldTownPilot

Most of CHQs flying went from MCO to CVG, replacing CMR, where I am a lot more familiar with the operations. (both CMR and CVG wise) All of concourse A is CHQ now, even ASA is over in C. Both CMR and CHQ got the screws in MCO with Freedom, and their JFK dash 8 opperation is horrendus. Freedumb even has quite a sizeable opperation in ATL.

Wow when I worked the CVG ramp for DL as a ramp agent in 98-2002 concourse A was a ghost town as all or most DL flights were out of the new B concourse.

Concourse C was all CMR flights. What a difference a couple of years make!

Maximillian_Jenius · September 21st, 2006, 01:32

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Originally Posted by Jason

The options are pretty limited unfortunatley. Shoot me a pm with your email address and I'll send you a rundown of all of the various FBO's if you'r einterested.

Jason

I have heard good things (at least when I lived their) about the flight schools at Lunken. Also heard that the FBO in Blue Ash was pretty decent!

Just stay away from KI69!!!

averyrm · September 21st, 2006, 04:55

I got my multi at the (then) Schmidt Aviation in Blue Ash. The guy who runs it now was the chief pilot back then, and now it's called Blue Ash Aviation.

Good place, and it at least was cheap. Aztec with known ice and radar for $179/hr. They also had 172's, 182, an rg, and some diamonds from what I recall. That was 4-5 years ago, however.

Doug Taylor · September 21st, 2006, 04:57

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Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

Wow when I worked the CVG ramp for DL as a ramp agent in 98-2002 concourse A was a ghost town as all or most DL flights were out of the new B concourse.

Concourse C was all CMR flights. What a difference a couple of years make!

I did my first leg to CVG in 1996. I remember thinking:

"Where the hell is taxiway 'dixie', what the hell is a mad dog and why the hell do I have to call Comair ramp!?"

flyingmaniac · September 21st, 2006, 10:43

A former flight instructor here at MTSU just got hired at Comair. He waited a while until they called him for an interview.

OldTownPilot · September 21st, 2006, 10:59

Thats good to hear, for a while they wern't hiring pilots, and cancelling 10% of their operation on the last day of the month when ALL of the reserves had timed out. Not sure if CMR is the best place to be now but all the best to him.

H46Bubba · September 24th, 2006, 18:27

Freedom Dash 8 operation in JFK is a joke! Mesa leased the oldest Dash 8s in the world. N810LR is Dash8-100 S/N 003. If anyone knows about how production works the first two or three of the production line are test birds. Material support is a nightmare beyond comapare. I thought when I was in the Navy and trying to upkeep and fly in over 30 year old helos that would be the hardest job ever, but this takes the cake. Delta has to be out of their minds! It's going to bite them and Mesa in the a$$.

OldTownPilot · September 24th, 2006, 21:35

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Originally Posted by H46Bubba

Freedom Dash 8 operation in JFK is a joke! Mesa leased the oldest Dash 8s in the world. N810LR is Dash8-100 S/N 003. If anyone knows about how production works the first two or three of the production line are test birds. Material support is a nightmare beyond comapare. I thought when I was in the Navy and trying to upkeep and fly in over 30 year old helos that would be the hardest job ever, but this takes the cake. Delta has to be out of their minds! It's going to bite them and Mesa in the a$$.

I've been on Freedom three times between JFK and PWM. Once was subbed for an ERJ, because the startup has gone so horrendously. The other 2 times there were FRL ERJs parked to go to other destinations.

I never realized 810 was the oldest -8 in the world. That was one that I was on and that would describe the experience perfectly. The leasing agent probably gave them for free the plane to get it off of their ramp, and in the air.

H46Bubba · September 25th, 2006, 06:56

Most are from Air Jazz. The ERJ's have been positioned up there to cover. 810 is still in Canada going through Delta confomity. These Dash's have Beta now like the EMB-120. They go through conformity in Canada and then fly to Roswell to get the Delta paint and then to PHX to finish up the final touches, and once finished, off they go to JFK for revenue flying. It's not really Mesa that's to blame but Bombardier. they are the worst as far as customer service and support. I have no problems getting parts from Embraer and if it's not avail at Embraer in FLL, it usually has to be maunfactured in Brazil and takes an extra day or two.

scoobs · September 25th, 2006, 12:48

Phx is pretty cheap to live but it would make sense CVG is even cheaper.

Jason · September 27th, 2006, 16:29

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Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

I have heard good things (at least when I lived their) about the flight schools at Lunken. Also heard that the FBO in Blue Ash was pretty decent!

Just stay away from KI69!!!

There are no more flight schools at Lunken.

Jason · September 27th, 2006, 16:35

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Originally Posted by averyrm

I got my multi at the (then) Schmidt Aviation in Blue Ash. The guy who runs it now was the chief pilot back then, and now it's called Blue Ash Aviation.

Good place, and it at least was cheap. Aztec with known ice and radar for $179/hr. They also had 172's, 182, an rg, and some diamonds from what I recall. That was 4-5 years ago, however.

I would only describe it as 'decent' now. He is an ok guy I guess but you MUST have a $200 non-owner policy to rent and it's no longer anywhere near cheap. The 182 is something like $73 an hour dry plus 13.5 gallons(if I remember correctly) at current retail giving you a total cost of around $120 an hour and it's old, somewhat rundown, and doesn't even have a GPS. He charges a dry then a fuel charge of the average burn times the retail proce. You pay this fuel charge in full regardless of how much you use.....you can use 6 gallons or 13.5 but you're still paying for 13.5. Plus the rental rules are ridiculously restrictive - no doubt to get the insurance premiums down as low as possible.

The Aztec is long gone.

Oh yeah, the City of Blue Ash is in a mad rush to shut down the airport and it looks like it's probably going to happen.

September 19th, 2006, 20:35	#1
H46Bubba Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: CVG Posts: 4,116	Going back to Comair Well I've had enough of Mesa for a lifetime. I just got the call today for the job offer in CVG. Now I can actually afford to buy a house and some land. Now I can get paid salery. I'll be doing the same job, just a different airline. I start on the 9th, so now I've got to scramble to get things in motion. Does anyone know of a good FBO to train at in CVG?

September 19th, 2006, 20:42	#3
surreal1221 Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alpha Tango Lima Posts: 8,818	Re: Going back to Comair Smart move. Best of luck to you, but you won't need much. Comair is a great company. __________________ AGI.MEI.CFI.CFII.FO.CRJ2 \| Josh \| The TRoP \| Rmble On \| ALPA \|

September 19th, 2006, 21:00	#5
SpiraMirabilis Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,149	Re: Going back to Comair What about Mesa's training contract?

September 19th, 2006, 21:08	#6
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 17,772 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Going back to Comair that bad eh? __________________ Wife of a Delta B767 ER F/O jetgirls.net

September 19th, 2006, 22:19	#8
OldTownPilot Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: BGR (Bangor, ME) Posts: 2,881 Blog Entries: 4	Re: Going back to Comair Comair is probably better than Mesa. If I remember right you are an A&P. CMR has shrunk and lost about 20% of its flying. Delta has been slowly reducing our CVG flying and giving it to CHQ mostly and ASA. JFK has grown for us in the past 2 years. I dont see CMR growing at all (even with the cuts) in the short term, I will have to check my crystal ball for the long term outlook, but I do see CMR around for a while, but most likely sold off. It is a good thing Butrell is gone, he was nothing but trouble for the employees. Bornhurst has been with CMR for a long time, and really cares about the company. His "complete utter devistation" remarks was truely him after the 191 crash. Welcome to the team. __________________ As a wise man said, sumb!tch flew in, sumb!tch'll fly out. Ski Hard. Party Harder.

September 20th, 2006, 21:05	#10
H46Bubba Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: CVG Posts: 4,116	Re: Going back to Comair Actually I'm a rehire. Actually both the other applicant picked and myself are returning Comair employees. I was treated a lot better at CMR than at YV. Dob't get em wrong I met some great individuals, but about 95% of employees need people skills. We're ready to drop the gear and put in the gear pins i.e. settle down for a while. PHX is almost as bad as California as far as housing prices go and I don't want to live out in the boonies to get good housing prices.

September 21st, 2006, 04:55	#16
averyrm Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: LCK Posts: 1,646	Re: Going back to Comair I got my multi at the (then) Schmidt Aviation in Blue Ash. The guy who runs it now was the chief pilot back then, and now it's called Blue Ash Aviation. Good place, and it at least was cheap. Aztec with known ice and radar for $179/hr. They also had 172's, 182, an rg, and some diamonds from what I recall. That was 4-5 years ago, however. __________________ <-- That guy with Belushi as his avitar

September 21st, 2006, 10:43	#18
flyingmaniac Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TN / ATL Posts: 603	Re: Going back to Comair A former flight instructor here at MTSU just got hired at Comair. He waited a while until they called him for an interview. __________________ http://www.SellPart135.com

September 21st, 2006, 10:59	#19
OldTownPilot Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: BGR (Bangor, ME) Posts: 2,881 Blog Entries: 4	Re: Going back to Comair Thats good to hear, for a while they wern't hiring pilots, and cancelling 10% of their operation on the last day of the month when ALL of the reserves had timed out. Not sure if CMR is the best place to be now but all the best to him. __________________ As a wise man said, sumb!tch flew in, sumb!tch'll fly out. Ski Hard. Party Harder.

September 24th, 2006, 18:27	#20
H46Bubba Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: CVG Posts: 4,116	Re: Going back to Comair Freedom Dash 8 operation in JFK is a joke! Mesa leased the oldest Dash 8s in the world. N810LR is Dash8-100 S/N 003. If anyone knows about how production works the first two or three of the production line are test birds. Material support is a nightmare beyond comapare. I thought when I was in the Navy and trying to upkeep and fly in over 30 year old helos that would be the hardest job ever, but this takes the cake. Delta has to be out of their minds! It's going to bite them and Mesa in the a$$.

September 25th, 2006, 06:56	#22
H46Bubba Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: CVG Posts: 4,116	Re: Going back to Comair Most are from Air Jazz. The ERJ's have been positioned up there to cover. 810 is still in Canada going through Delta confomity. These Dash's have Beta now like the EMB-120. They go through conformity in Canada and then fly to Roswell to get the Delta paint and then to PHX to finish up the final touches, and once finished, off they go to JFK for revenue flying. It's not really Mesa that's to blame but Bombardier. they are the worst as far as customer service and support. I have no problems getting parts from Embraer and if it's not avail at Embraer in FLL, it usually has to be maunfactured in Brazil and takes an extra day or two.

September 25th, 2006, 12:48	#23
scoobs Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 677	Re: Going back to Comair Phx is pretty cheap to live but it would make sense CVG is even cheaper.

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