Pending Furlough

[wheelsup]

Originally Posted by Texasspilot

N/A eszabo@kalittacharters.com
Fax: (734) 544-3421
Kalitta Charters

he works at the company I think, he flies for Kalitta Charters (II)

[aviatorrbt]

that sucks.

[Kristie]

Originally Posted by Texasspilot

saw this...

Falcon First-Officers


Company: Kalitta Charters Product/Service:
Location: Ypsilanti, MI Required Travel: None
Job Type: Full-time Employment Type: Permanent


Description:
WE NEED LEAR AND Falcon First-Officers for our well-established Part 135 Charter Operation base in Ypsilanti, MI. Relocating to KYIP is required. Check our web-site for more information on our company. http://www.kalittacharters.com


Requirements:
Must have at least 1500-TT with 200-ME.


Company Benefits:
Expect $33K to $35K the first year.


Contact Information:

N/A eszabo@kalittacharters.com
Fax: (734) 544-3421
Kalitta Charters

WTF? isn't that the same company?? so is this for (I) or (II)? why aren't they offering a switch vs furlough?

[RynoB]

Originally Posted by frog_flyer

This is why JC > all other aviation forums.

good luck with the job search.

Aggreed. Most of the time people here are really positive and helpful. Other forums are really negative. They would be telling him to just give up on aviation and run as fast and far away as he can.

[Bandit_Driver]

Originally Posted by Kristie

WTF? isn't that the same company?? so is this for (I) or (II)? why aren't they offering a switch vs furlough?

They are technically different companys.

Kalitta Air 747's doesn't accept people from Charters I or II
Kalitta Charters II 727's DC-9
Kalitta Charters I Lears and Falcons under 135 regs.

The is the potential to transfer over there. It is one my last resort options. They have a 21 and 7 schedule and a 15 minute call out time. Most of the 727 guys can't make that. I am 45 - 60 minutes from the airport. The owner has said those that are furloughed may transfer over to 135 as captains, providing they are qualified and can pass training. There are a lot of unknowns and the 135 side isn't happy about 727 guys cutting to the front of the FO's waiting to upgrade.

Thanks for the suggestions and encourgement. It is now looking like I may make the cut [crossed fingers].

[MQAAord]

Originally Posted by Bandit_Driver

It is now looking like I may make the cut [crossed fingers].

Oh, I hope so!

We know that feeling VERY VERY well. Bill narrowly escaped FMII by 112 numbers. Yup, at one point he was 112 off the bottom. Not a comfy place to be, especially with a wife and two kids at home.

I wasn't so lucky, but my getting furloughed wasn't nearly as bad as Bill getting furloughed would have been.

[Aero_Engineer]

I am sorry to hear that man, I wish you all the best luck and hope you'll find something good soon.

[flywithUS]

Well, you know what they say. You ain't a real airline pilot until you are furloughed.

And unfortunately I am SOL, for being furloughed runs in my family (along with airline bankruptcies).

My dad must hold the record for being furloughed. Four times. Yep, four times he has been furloughed. Twice in the '90s, and twice in the past five years. Who said 17 years at one company mean't anything?

Which reminds me, I need to sign up for AFROTC.

[Doug Taylor]

Nah, that probably just means you've got a more realistic viewpoint than the average pilot walking around with his friggen sunglasses on his forehead, big porkchops and spikey hair!

[Kingairer]

...that doesnt like to wear their company required hat because they spent 30 min that morning spikin that hair and 35 dollars at the salon getting it cut last week. Real Cool Dude

[Doug Taylor]

...at the mall.

[Bandit_Driver]

We'll I just received the official word from MGMT. All furloughed pilots are being recalled and I will not be furloughed.

I was set to get furloughed on th 15th then a FO called in sick and I was told I would be flying that line until the FO returned in 3 days. After the 3 days the FO called in sick again and I was placed on overtime for another week. During that time the company decided to bring back those furloughed and cancel my pending furlough.

The flying has temporarily picked up for now and some contracts are pending for future flying. Hopefully, they get signed. I am just wondering what is going to happen when the guys that took voluntary leave and military leave start returning? Hopefully, there is room for everyone...

Thanks to all for job info and encouragement, it is appreciated. My job hunt will continue.

[jobear]

Originally Posted by Bandit_Driver

We'll I just received the official word from MGMT. All furloughed pilots are being recalled and I will not be furloughed.

Congrats on the not getting F__loughed. Can't say it, much like a married man can't say divorce. Ameristar isn't currently hiring but they may in the near future for any of thoose looking.

[amorris311]

Originally Posted by Bandit_Driver

We'll I just received the official word from MGMT. All furloughed pilots are being recalled and I will not be furloughed.

I was set to get furloughed on th 15th then a FO called in sick and I was told I would be flying that line until the FO returned in 3 days. After the 3 days the FO called in sick again and I was placed on overtime for another week. During that time the company decided to bring back those furloughed and cancel my pending furlough.

The flying has temporarily picked up for now and some contracts are pending for future flying. Hopefully, they get signed. I am just wondering what is going to happen when the guys that took voluntary leave and military leave start returning? Hopefully, there is room for everyone...

Thanks to all for job info and encouragement, it is appreciated. My job hunt will continue.

thats great to hear. i hope the company does well enough to stay afloat so you can get a new flying position. have you narrowed the list on who you are applying with or is it a barrage of resumes to every airline outfit in the great lake area? ill keep pulling for you and good luck.

[ComplexHiAv8r]

CONGRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is great to hear...keep us updated on whats happening in MI (one of these days I might get up there and try to see on of you JC people)

[MQAAord]

Man, I'd be spitting bullets I'd be so pissed about holding that ax over my head like that.

You guys did NOT deserve that whirlwind. I hope you keep looking and are able to find something a tad more reliable!

[Bandit_Driver]

Originally Posted by amorris311

thats great to hear. i hope the company does well enough to stay afloat so you can get a new flying position. have you narrowed the list on who you are applying with or is it a barrage of resumes to every airline outfit in the great lake area? ill keep pulling for you and good luck.

It's a pretty small list. I am only applying to airlines that pay a respectable wage the first year. The list is about 12-15 airlines long.

[Bandit_Driver]

Originally Posted by MQAAord

Man, I'd be spitting bullets I'd be so pissed about holding that ax over my head like that.

You guys did NOT deserve that whirlwind. I hope you keep looking and are able to find something a tad more reliable!

Everyone is pretty mad as the number furloughed / to be furloughed seemed to change day by day. Needless to say, noone near the bottom feels comfortable anymore. I can see mgmt pulling the trigger even faster the next time works slows down. I will continue to seek other employement opportunities. Another thing that I found odd was that during the furlough we were still going to be required to attend recurrent and then SIM every 90 days, they didn't want anyone to dequal on the aircraft.

After several days into my extension, they were shocked to hear that I was on overtime. They thought I was just helping them and the sick pilot out. Fortunately, I coverd my a$$ with a call to the CP to confirm my OT status. This apparently may not be good enough as the CP has been sent back to the line. Rumors are he has been replaced but no offiical annoucements have been made about a new CP or the old one stepping down. Things are a little tense around the office to say the least. [/end venting]

[wheelsup]

it's good this "wake up call" worked out like it did

[MQAAord]

Originally Posted by Bandit_Driver

Another thing that I found odd was that during the furlough we were still going to be required to attend recurrent and then SIM every 90 days, they didn't want anyone to dequal on the aircraft.

How could they do that? If you're furloughed you're not an employee, were they planning on making you come in to stay qualed with no pay out of the kindness of your heart?

Originally Posted by Bandit_Driver

After several days into my extension, they were shocked to hear that I was on overtime. They thought I was just helping them and the sick pilot out. Fortunately, I coverd my a$$ with a call to the CP to confirm my OT status.

Were they thinking you were doing this work for no pay? WTF?

That's quite a company!

[Bandit_Driver]

Originally Posted by MQAAord

How could they do that? If you're furloughed you're not an employee, were they planning on making you come in to stay qualed with no pay out of the kindness of your heart?



Were they thinking you were doing this work for no pay? WTF?

That's quite a company!

I was told we were to be paid for all training events...But who the heck knows. I was told they wanted us current so they wouldn't have to send us back to school when the flying picked up again.

As far as OT...I have no idea WTF they were thinking...

[Lee D]

I'm glad it did not turn out to be a worst case scenario. I hope things get more stable for you.

[amorris311]

are you still planning on living in detroit? are you willing to move? i hope everythings works out its got to be extremely stressful. best of luck.

[Bandit_Driver]

Originally Posted by amorris311

are you still planning on living in detroit? are you willing to move? i hope everythings works out its got to be extremely stressful. best of luck.

Thanks:

I am not sure I would move for an airline right now. I would probably move for an airline if I was pretty senior at it and I was pretty sure that base wasn't going anywhere. Detroit is fairly easy to commute out of. Moving around when you are single isn't a big deal, but when you get married and have kids, family close by can be a life saver.

How's the foot/ankle coming along?

[amorris311]

Originally Posted by Bandit_Driver

Thanks:

I am not sure I would move for an airline right now. I would probably move for an airline if I was pretty senior at it and I was pretty sure that base wasn't going anywhere. Detroit is fairly easy to commute out of. Moving around when you are single isn't a big deal, but when you get married and have kids, family close by can be a life saver.

How's the foot/ankle coming along?

yea i see how it would be. family is something nice to come home to when you have had a stressful, long, tedious trip. i hope the freight company does not make stupid moves. so for now are you safe? i know safe is not the right word to use with the airline industry but it is the best i can come up with.

for the foot well i have three new pieces of metal and they are adjusting well. luckly i have no pain which is great but i get to have fun with a cast til thanksgiving. thank god it gets cold in new york in about 3 weeks i will be stinking casts out like crazy. thanks for asking though. it sucks seeing the team practice and play while my season and career now are over.