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Old March 7th, 2006, 22:25   #26
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Well, back on topic, congrats again R2F. Now memorize those callouts!!!
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Old March 7th, 2006, 23:04   #27
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Here's how it went at Pinnacle for the first couple of days:

Day 1

They gave us tons of stuff, and by tons I mean I need a new bag or two to cart all this stuff around. Flight Ops Manual (FOM), Flight Crew Op Manual Vol I, (FCOM-1), Flight Crew Op Manual Vol II (FCOM2), QRH, some sample Jepp plates, a CRJ cockpit poster (to practice those flows) and a stack of HR paperwork.

Most of the day was a parade of people welcoming us to the company and answering questions. Some of the people that stopped by were the COO, Assistant CP (CP was in either MSP or DTW at the time), base manager for MEM, head of the training department, head of CRJ training, and a couple more. Then we started going through the FOM and learning stuff we need to know.

Day 2

HR day. Lots of forms, drug test, couple of videos, presentation on pass benefits, health insurance, 401K, etc. More forms.

Should get a tour of dispatch, mx hangar (and get to open and close things on the CRJ), uniform fittings, etc sometime next week. Rumor has it ALPA is coming in tomorrow and we're getting SIDA badges for MEM in the morning. So far, this has been fun, and I'm pretty lucky since I have a sim partner/roommate that is as into memorizing flows, memory items and running checklists as I am.
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Bro knowing you I imagine you've already got everything memorized

And I can't believe you put that in your signature!
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Old March 8th, 2006, 18:18   #29
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Congrats Stan - and by the way ...

YOU SUCK!!!





Thanks, JT!!! Now...about that steak dinner...
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Old March 8th, 2006, 19:45   #30
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Anytime you get this way my young padawan.

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Day 3
Mostly went over the rest of the Manual (Volume 1). The exciting part of my day was FINALLY getting that all-important Crew badge!! Kind of felt like another step towards validation.

Also met with HR who explained the benefits packages and travel benefits. Can't wait to start taking advantage of those!!!

Day 4
Took our indoc written test. Nothing too stressful as it was open book, but it took FOREVER!! 75 questions all OVER the manual!

Passed that, so now it's on to SYSTEMS!!!

Then we had a lunch meeting with the ALPA guy. Got all signed up and ready to roll there. So, now I'm truly drinkin' from the Koolaid!!

Watched films on Icing and Windshear, those kind of things, then home to work out. NO STUDYING tonight, so my (soon to be) sim partner/roomate and I will be going to checkout a little bit of Dallas.

Next week, the rubber starts hitting the road when we get into systems so we're going to take advantage of this free time.

KLB and JH - I'll call you guys this weekend. See you then!

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Brett's down too. If you can give me some notice I'll call up Bob, you'd love the guy!
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I don't know why I haven't met Brett yet. I was just in Arlington today getting a haircut and I just totally didn't think about running over to skymates for a minute.
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Stan, look for a guy named Rick Crose there tomorrow. He's "oriental" - parents are white boy american and phillipino.

Really cool guy but don't fight with him, he's a 4th degree black belt. He kicked me in the head several times tonight sparring!! (not too hard, and I have a hard head.)

He and his dad (MCO ATC) are the leaders of my Chayon Ryu class.

I told him to look for you.
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Aw Stan you're making me homesick for a very fun few years of my life.

I used to teach in the building you're in. For as much as I like to bash Eagle, the training dept really is great. I think I may still have the key to the library at the end of the hall........

The wings will get scratched, the epaulettes will get dirty, the books will get coffee rings on their pages, the body will get worn with the beatings of scheduling, but keep your attitude positive in your heart and you'll always be as happy as you are now.
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Hey..Congratulations on you getting hired. Who gets first pick on the bases and aircraft? one UND guy, what was his name? Ive heared of an
Instructor here who just got picked up by AE a month or so ago.
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It's all about seniority. Oldest gets first pick.
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If you're out on a Friday or Saturday night in Dallas, head straight for Deep Ellum!
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Deep Ellum = might get shot at. Ft Worth is a better bet. Now to wrap up the Pinnacle week:

To round out the week, we finished going through all the company procedures dealing with t/o alternates, alternate mins, exemptions to those mins, picked sim partners, and took our basic indoc test. Unfortunately, hours was NOT open book, but everyone did pass. Lots of questions on duty regs and the aforementioned topics. Best of all, I learned what base I'll be at. Ladies and gentleman, I got my first choice: MEM. From the sound of things, I might not sit reserve long at all, and the rumot is we're going to PBS soon as well.

Oh yeah, there's ANOTHER class starting on Monday. So, in addition to the 20 some odd I have under me in THIS class, that'll be another 30 behind me in seniority. Next week, we start the exciting security, emergency training and Hazmat. Then we move on to systems, which I'm really looking forward to.

To those of you looking to get on at an airline, listen to the experienced guys around here. The little tidbits you pick up really, really help in groundschool.
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wusss.

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Deep Ellum = might get shot at. Ft Worth is a better bet. Now to wrap up the Pinnacle week:

To round out the week, we finished going through all the company procedures dealing with t/o alternates, alternate mins, exemptions to those mins, picked sim partners, and took our basic indoc test. Unfortunately, hours was NOT open book, but everyone did pass. Lots of questions on duty regs and the aforementioned topics. Best of all, I learned what base I'll be at. Ladies and gentleman, I got my first choice: MEM. From the sound of things, I might not sit reserve long at all, and the rumot is we're going to PBS soon as well.

Oh yeah, there's ANOTHER class starting on Monday. So, in addition to the 20 some odd I have under me in THIS class, that'll be another 30 behind me in seniority. Next week, we start the exciting security, emergency training and Hazmat. Then we move on to systems, which I'm really looking forward to.

To those of you looking to get on at an airline, listen to the experienced guys around here. The little tidbits you pick up really, really help in groundschool.
What kind of info is on a basic indoc test?
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Basic indoc info, silly!

Sorry. I couldn't help myself!
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Deep Ellum = might get shot at. Ft Worth is a better bet. Now to wrap up the Pinnacle week:
Hey! The Deep Ellum ain't that bad. You just got to park in the right places...like next to the temporary police huts.

If you want to go more up scale, Greenville Avenue is pretty good.
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Heh, since we're starting training on the same day, I was kinda kicking around the idea of a compare and contrast thing between the two of us. .

I enjoyed my ground school very much. My instructor was great, as well as my classmates. I doubt any other newhire class that came through had as much fun as ours did. But um, to compare our training to a large operation like American eagle, well you might get dissappointed.
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Well, Eagle has how much money to toss at the new hires compared to us?

My goal is just to show how similar yet different training can be at different airlines.

I'm having a blast in class (when we're not watching videos and getting reviews on weather), and our instructor (Jan for those in the know) is great, too. The only downside is that our class is so huge. 30 people is a lot for a 9E CRJ class from what I hear.
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Day 6
Today they turned on the fire hose. Right down our throats.

Intro to systems began with an lesson on how to use the computers for CBT (Computer Based Training). The CRJ is the only aircraft in A.E.'s fleet that uses CBT technology and I, for one, am VERY glad they have it!!

The first day, we went over "Aircraft General" and "Lights" - followed by a test.

We then dove headlong into the FMS - also CBT based. That thing is going to be FUN to learn!!!!

Day 7
Today, we did a quick review of the General Ops section and then a review of several other sections of the Ops Specs ..... followed by a 25 question written test.

After that, we began our study of the NAV and COMM units on the CBT = both VERY long units, followed by a test at the end of each one. So, in total, I had three tests today.

The end of the day was spent on intro to CSI (Cockpit Systems Integration) with a check airman, a transition captain and myself and another first officer new hire. Unfortunately, I will be the "odd man out" and will have to do all my training with the check airman. I'm actuallly very excited about that! Not to take anything away from the captain, but I'd rather learn from Obi Wan than from Luke. Ya dig?

More later. Off to work out, then back to the books.

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Monday (I can't do day numbers since it all runs together. More power to ya, Stan )

Emergency training. We learned how to use the PBEs, halon extinguishers, water extinguishers, inflated life vests, and put out fires.

Tuesday

Most of today, I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you. It was all about airline security techniques with uniform fittings tossed in. At some point next week, we're getting someone to come and teach us self-defense techniques. Should be interesting and possibly a bit painful.....
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Stan if you need help with the CRJ ...
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ha ha we'll see about that
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