In case anyone was wondering...

EatSleepFly · November 8th, 2004, 15:38

I am sitting at home waiting to go back down to FL to take my aircraft checkride before I go on to IOE. It was supposed to be last week, but they had a big scheduling snafu, so they sent us F/O's home. Not sure what happened to the CA upgrades that were in my class, but I saw today that they all got displaced back to F/O's in different aircraft, so I imagine they are headed back to the schoolhouse for long term again soon.

Its getting pretty discouraging- there were 120 some odd displacements "awarded" (er...sentenced?) today. Those of us hired after May 2002 aren't protected from furlough due to flowbacks. So unfortunately, I'm keeping my resume handy and making lots of backup plans since it looks like my time on the line might be short. If its not, great...but I want to be prepared just in case. This has been a crash course in the inner workings of the airline industry, thats for sure.

JEP · November 8th, 2004, 17:09

ESF, I wish you well with whatever does happen (and hopefully soon). Did they give you any idea as to when your checkride may begin? Does it look like there are more flowbacks coming? That has got to be frustrating to make it through groundschool and then get pushed back or delayed. Liek you said keep the resumes handy. Have you sent one out to XJT? It seems like it is becoming JetCareers hiring airline of choice. They seem to be hiring by the truck load. Good Luck in whatever route you take.

- jim

MQAAord · November 8th, 2004, 17:58

Keep that chin up ESF!

I hope for the best for ya!

EatSleepFly · November 8th, 2004, 21:09

[ QUOTE ]
ESF, I wish you well with whatever does happen (and hopefully soon). Did they give you any idea as to when your checkride may begin? Does it look like there are more flowbacks coming? That has got to be frustrating to make it through groundschool and then get pushed back or delayed. Liek you said keep the resumes handy. Have you sent one out to XJT? It seems like it is becoming JetCareers hiring airline of choice. They seem to be hiring by the truck load. Good Luck in whatever route you take.

- jim

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks Jim and Amber. There are lots more flowbacks coming...not exactly sure how many though. The more that come, the better my chances of getting the boot. When they stop hiring, I will really start to get worried.

As for my checkride, its scheduled for this coming Saturday night, and I should start IOE a week from today. I was supposed to be online by now, but for whatever reason they are having trouble scheduling things. Hopefully its not them leaving us in limbo until they decide if they're even going to bother putting us through IOE.

I did re-apply at XJT. I got a call for an interview from them back when I was just about to leave for class at Eagle, so I turned it down. Wish I hadn't now, but hopefully they'll call back. They would be much better for me anyways, as I could eventually be based in CLE, which is where I live now and wouldn't mind staying. In any case, I'm probably going to take my first decent opportunity to get out of here.

Kingairer · November 8th, 2004, 21:57

Keep this job, its always easier to get another one when you have one, BUT KEEP APPLYING ELSEWHERE....Eagle doesnt seem to be getting any better.

jdflight · November 9th, 2004, 16:43

Yeah, they rescinded my offer. No Eagle for me. Back to Tomahawks and Seminoles.

EatSleepFly · November 9th, 2004, 19:02

Seriously?! That sucks.

MQAAord · November 9th, 2004, 19:04

[ QUOTE ]
Yeah, they rescinded my offer. No Eagle for me. Back to Tomahawks and Seminoles.

[/ QUOTE ]

WTFO?!?!?!?

They completely recinded the offer, as in you'd have to go through the whole interview & crap again, or they're just not putting you in class right away?

How unbelievable frustrating!

montanapilot · November 9th, 2004, 19:30

[ QUOTE ]
Yeah, they rescinded my offer. No Eagle for me. Back to Tomahawks and Seminoles.

[/ QUOTE ]

well the bastards!

jdflight · November 9th, 2004, 19:56

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Yeah, they rescinded my offer. No Eagle for me. Back to Tomahawks and Seminoles.

[/ QUOTE ]

WTFO?!?!?!?

They completely recinded the offer, as in you'd have to go through the whole interview & crap again, or they're just not putting you in class right away?

How unbelievable frustrating!

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, they told me that the captains' review board denied my file. But rumor has it they're only running one more class, starting Monday, and then no more hiring. I told them I couldn't be available until the 18th. So, since they don't give you a reason for your demise, I choose to believe it's because there is no class for me. So yes, should I still want Eagle, I'd have to reapply in six months.

Kingairer · November 9th, 2004, 19:59

Hitler Youth.

jdflight · November 9th, 2004, 20:01

Well, considering I was using Eagle to get time to go to a better airline, I'll not sweat it too much. I'm working on ideas for getting some extra instrument time, and putting resumes out to other places.

CaliforniaSurfer · November 9th, 2004, 20:07

Let me know what those ideas are for instrument time buddy, I might be interested.

Surf

MQAAord · November 9th, 2004, 20:25

[ QUOTE ]
Well, they told me that the captains' review board denied my file. But rumor has it they're only running one more class, starting Monday, and then no more hiring. I told them I couldn't be available until the 18th. So, since they don't give you a reason for your demise, I choose to believe it's because there is no class for me. So yes, should I still want Eagle, I'd have to reapply in six months.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ahhh, that CAs board crap. I got my flight instructor an interview with Eagle last spring. He had a letter of recommendation from the ORD cheif pilot. He did the interview, sim, CAs board & medical. He was sent home with a letter that said he had a conditional offer of employement. When he called for his class date he was told he had failed the CAs board.

I can't believe this is happening again! This makes two pilots Eagle should be thankful to have that they sent away because of the CAs board! Bull-Freakin'-Crap!!!!!

EatSleepFly · November 9th, 2004, 20:59

I don't know what the method to the CA Board's madness is. Two guys that I interviewed with who got conditional offers were rejected by the CA's Board. I know at least one of them was as straight a shooter as they come. Great guy, lots of good flight experience...no reason at all that he shouldn't be at Eagle. Heck, I thought for sure that I would get rejected before he did. Same for you, jdflight, I'm sure. But anyways, as of very recently, this place is looking less and less like a place anyone should want to be, so I wouldn't sweat it.

November 8th, 2004, 15:38	#1
EatSleepFly Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ?? Posts: 4,600	In case anyone was wondering... I am sitting at home waiting to go back down to FL to take my aircraft checkride before I go on to IOE. It was supposed to be last week, but they had a big scheduling snafu, so they sent us F/O's home. Not sure what happened to the CA upgrades that were in my class, but I saw today that they all got displaced back to F/O's in different aircraft, so I imagine they are headed back to the schoolhouse for long term again soon. Its getting pretty discouraging- there were 120 some odd displacements "awarded" (er...sentenced?) today. Those of us hired after May 2002 aren't protected from furlough due to flowbacks. So unfortunately, I'm keeping my resume handy and making lots of backup plans since it looks like my time on the line might be short. If its not, great...but I want to be prepared just in case. This has been a crash course in the inner workings of the airline industry, thats for sure.

November 8th, 2004, 17:09	#2
JEP Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Eden Prairie, MN (KFCM) (KMSP) Posts: 10,628 Blog Entries: 1	Re: In case anyone was wondering... ESF, I wish you well with whatever does happen (and hopefully soon). Did they give you any idea as to when your checkride may begin? Does it look like there are more flowbacks coming? That has got to be frustrating to make it through groundschool and then get pushed back or delayed. Liek you said keep the resumes handy. Have you sent one out to XJT? It seems like it is becoming JetCareers hiring airline of choice. They seem to be hiring by the truck load. Good Luck in whatever route you take. - jim

November 8th, 2004, 17:58	#3
MQAAord Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Looney Bin Posts: 8,908	Re: In case anyone was wondering... Keep that chin up ESF! I hope for the best for ya!

November 8th, 2004, 21:09	#4
EatSleepFly Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ?? Posts: 4,600	Re: In case anyone was wondering... [ QUOTE ] ESF, I wish you well with whatever does happen (and hopefully soon). Did they give you any idea as to when your checkride may begin? Does it look like there are more flowbacks coming? That has got to be frustrating to make it through groundschool and then get pushed back or delayed. Liek you said keep the resumes handy. Have you sent one out to XJT? It seems like it is becoming JetCareers hiring airline of choice. They seem to be hiring by the truck load. Good Luck in whatever route you take. - jim [/ QUOTE ] Thanks Jim and Amber. There are lots more flowbacks coming...not exactly sure how many though. The more that come, the better my chances of getting the boot. When they stop hiring, I will really start to get worried. As for my checkride, its scheduled for this coming Saturday night, and I should start IOE a week from today. I was supposed to be online by now, but for whatever reason they are having trouble scheduling things. Hopefully its not them leaving us in limbo until they decide if they're even going to bother putting us through IOE. I did re-apply at XJT. I got a call for an interview from them back when I was just about to leave for class at Eagle, so I turned it down. Wish I hadn't now, but hopefully they'll call back. They would be much better for me anyways, as I could eventually be based in CLE, which is where I live now and wouldn't mind staying. In any case, I'm probably going to take my first decent opportunity to get out of here.

November 8th, 2004, 21:57	#5
Kingairer Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nomadic...World Wide Boobie Bungalow Bouncer Posts: 3,168	Re: In case anyone was wondering... Keep this job, its always easier to get another one when you have one, BUT KEEP APPLYING ELSEWHERE....Eagle doesnt seem to be getting any better.

November 9th, 2004, 16:43	#6
jdflight Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Boulder, CO (anywhere but Fresno) Posts: 1,477	Re: In case anyone was wondering... Yeah, they rescinded my offer. No Eagle for me. Back to Tomahawks and Seminoles.

November 9th, 2004, 19:02	#7
EatSleepFly Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ?? Posts: 4,600	Re: In case anyone was wondering... Seriously?! That sucks.

November 9th, 2004, 19:04	#8
MQAAord Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Looney Bin Posts: 8,908	Re: In case anyone was wondering... [ QUOTE ] Yeah, they rescinded my offer. No Eagle for me. Back to Tomahawks and Seminoles. [/ QUOTE ] WTFO?!?!?!? They completely recinded the offer, as in you'd have to go through the whole interview & crap again, or they're just not putting you in class right away? How unbelievable frustrating!

November 9th, 2004, 19:30	#9
montanapilot Old Skool Join Date: May 2003 Location: Portland, Orygun Posts: 1,638	Re: In case anyone was wondering... [ QUOTE ] Yeah, they rescinded my offer. No Eagle for me. Back to Tomahawks and Seminoles. [/ QUOTE ] well the bastards!

November 9th, 2004, 19:56	#10
jdflight Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Boulder, CO (anywhere but Fresno) Posts: 1,477	Re: In case anyone was wondering... [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Yeah, they rescinded my offer. No Eagle for me. Back to Tomahawks and Seminoles. [/ QUOTE ] WTFO?!?!?!? They completely recinded the offer, as in you'd have to go through the whole interview & crap again, or they're just not putting you in class right away? How unbelievable frustrating! [/ QUOTE ] Well, they told me that the captains' review board denied my file. But rumor has it they're only running one more class, starting Monday, and then no more hiring. I told them I couldn't be available until the 18th. So, since they don't give you a reason for your demise, I choose to believe it's because there is no class for me. So yes, should I still want Eagle, I'd have to reapply in six months.

November 9th, 2004, 19:59	#11
Kingairer Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nomadic...World Wide Boobie Bungalow Bouncer Posts: 3,168	Re: In case anyone was wondering... Hitler Youth.

November 9th, 2004, 20:01	#12
jdflight Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Boulder, CO (anywhere but Fresno) Posts: 1,477	Re: In case anyone was wondering... Well, considering I was using Eagle to get time to go to a better airline, I'll not sweat it too much. I'm working on ideas for getting some extra instrument time, and putting resumes out to other places.

November 9th, 2004, 20:07	#13
CaliforniaSurfer Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: SoCal Posts: 296	Re: In case anyone was wondering... Let me know what those ideas are for instrument time buddy, I might be interested. Surf

November 9th, 2004, 20:25	#14
MQAAord Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Looney Bin Posts: 8,908	Re: In case anyone was wondering... [ QUOTE ] Well, they told me that the captains' review board denied my file. But rumor has it they're only running one more class, starting Monday, and then no more hiring. I told them I couldn't be available until the 18th. So, since they don't give you a reason for your demise, I choose to believe it's because there is no class for me. So yes, should I still want Eagle, I'd have to reapply in six months. [/ QUOTE ] Ahhh, that CAs board crap. I got my flight instructor an interview with Eagle last spring. He had a letter of recommendation from the ORD cheif pilot. He did the interview, sim, CAs board & medical. He was sent home with a letter that said he had a conditional offer of employement. When he called for his class date he was told he had failed the CAs board. I can't believe this is happening again! This makes two pilots Eagle should be thankful to have that they sent away because of the CAs board! Bull-Freakin'-Crap!!!!!

November 9th, 2004, 20:59	#15
EatSleepFly Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ?? Posts: 4,600	Re: In case anyone was wondering... I don't know what the method to the CA Board's madness is. Two guys that I interviewed with who got conditional offers were rejected by the CA's Board. I know at least one of them was as straight a shooter as they come. Great guy, lots of good flight experience...no reason at all that he shouldn't be at Eagle. Heck, I thought for sure that I would get rejected before he did. Same for you, jdflight, I'm sure. But anyways, as of very recently, this place is looking less and less like a place anyone should want to be, so I wouldn't sweat it.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode