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Old May 22nd, 2009, 09:10   #51
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I'd say if you stick around at Amflight for more than 5 years you've either got so many DUI's not even Spirit will hire you, you've got such a repulsive personality that nobody will hire you, or you've crashed so many airplanes that nobody will hire you.
Whatever happened to the "boxes don't talk back" cliche? I'm tired of hauling stupid ass pax. And I mean them that don't understand how the two ends of a seatbelt work and worse. My personaility aint repulsive, I've yet to crash even once and I have zero DUIs. I just prefer single pilot with boxes.
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 19:50   #52
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Don't worry! I used to fly for AMF and I can tell you NO ONE will make it that long. AMF doesn't like pilots who are even close to 40 years of age! THEY WILL FIND A WAY TO GET RID OF THEM! I know. AMF does practice age discrimination. Also, if you mention "back pain", you're history!!
funny . . . they offered me a job when I was 45 ... and gave me time to consider my options, to which I finally declined with a good relationship. He told me if I wanted a job in the future to let him know!
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 23:46   #53
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Whatever happened to the "boxes don't talk back" cliche? I'm tired of hauling stupid ass pax. And I mean them that don't understand how the two ends of a seatbelt work and worse. My personaility aint repulsive, I've yet to crash even once and I have zero DUIs. I just prefer single pilot with boxes.
You must be one of the 5, then.

Seriously the only people I know that have been there forever are Hazlet, Bob and Sherrie. Even Kaveney, the system chief pilot, was there well under a decade. There are a handful of guys (possibly like yourself) who do runs that have you out at 6:00 a.m. and back by 9:00 a.m., but they are few and far between.
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 03:05   #54
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In my indoc class there was a guy who is 59...just saying.
How is he doing? Did he make it to CVG yet?
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I'd say if you stick around at Amflight for more than 5 years you've either got so many DUI's not even Spirit will hire you, you've got such a repulsive personality that nobody will hire you, or you've crashed so many airplanes that nobody will hire you.
I missed this post... but why would AMF even hire such a pilot? Isnt that a huge risk on their part?
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 06:14   #56
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How is he doing? Did he make it to CVG yet?
Yup he's in CVG.
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I missed this post... but why would AMF even hire such a pilot? Isnt that a huge risk on their part?
I think John is being a little bit of smartass, shocker.

That is definitely one thing that is different between amflight and Airnet. Airnet had alot of vetern Lear captains before all the went down last fall. They had probably close to 20 guys that had been there over 15 years with a handful that were there for over 20.
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I missed this post... but why would AMF even hire such a pilot? Isnt that a huge risk on their part?
Indeed I was being a smartass...kind of. There are some real freaks and deviants flying around there that simply can't get out for one reason or another. I'd say the majority cut and run at a few seemingly predetermined points.

1. They log some time in the Chieftain, bail to the regionals (me).

2. They log some time in the Chieftain, upgrade to the 99, get a little bit of time and bail to a charter/fractional gig (lots of guys).

3. They get some time in the Chieftain, upgrade to the 99, upgrade to the Metro/1900 and then move onto a national (a few guys).

4. They get some time in the Chieftain, upgrade to the 99, gear up a 99, and are either fired or never leave because they can't find another job.

5. They get some time in the Chieftain, upgrade to the 99, upgrade to the 1900, upgrade to the Metro, do whatever management would like them to do, and eventually become management.

6. They get some time in the Chieftain, upgrade to the 99, upgrade to the 1900, upgrade to the Metro, upgrade to the EMB-120, and go to Southwest.

7. They get some time in the Chieftain, upgrade to the 99, upgrade to the 1900, upgrade to the Metro, upgrade to the EMB-120, upgrade to the Lear, land at Palmdale instead of Fox field and thus, never leave. Oh and then they dump the Lears, so I dunno what happened to that guy.
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What about the guys that are all around badasses and got hired into the Metros?
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What about the guys that are all around badasses and got hired into the Metros?
Those guys are most likely hacks that got through training by purchasing their Seattle based check airmen hookers.

Or so I hear...
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My indoc roomate was also in his 50's when he was hired.

And some AMF'ers have also gone on to the "big leagues" also. I wouldn't necessarily say that their bowing to our "freight greatness"( I wouldn't expect then to), but it does happen.

WOW!! I'm in shock! There must have been a radical make-over in AMF Management! (like firing Stu Schrock!) Either that or they're desperate for pilots! I am, however, happy to see/hear of some changes over there, they were desperatley needed!
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WOW!! I'm in shock! There must have been a radical make-over in AMF Management! (like firing Stu Schrock!) Either that or they're desperate for pilots! I am, however, happy to see/hear of some changes over there, they were desperatley needed!
I've been at AMF since 2006 and have no idea who that guy is! AMF is and will always be AMF.
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Pardon me if this question has already been answered but does AMF let you choose the base to fly out of or do they place you where they need you? Personally, PDX would be nice. Thanks!
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Pardon me if this question has already been answered but does AMF let you choose the base to fly out of or do they place you where they need you? Personally, PDX would be nice. Thanks!

When they're hiring, you can choose any base thats advertising the need for pilots.
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I've been at AMF since 2006 and have no idea who that guy is! AMF is and will always be AMF.
The AMF you and me know is a kinder, gentler AMF now that Stu is gone.

I flew with a captain at Express that got fired by Stu when he was at Amflight...twice! He got fired from Amflight to cut costs, then went to another freight company. A few months later, that freight company is bought by AMF and he gets fired again!
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I heard that AMF may be hiring again towards the end of the year? I'd love to get on that 99.
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When they're hiring, you can choose any base thats advertising the need for pilots.
With the caveat that some bases (SLC) are turbine-only bases and you must have sufficient seniority to bid the 99, at least. (That's my understanding, anyway.)
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With the caveat that some bases (SLC) are turbine-only bases and you must have sufficient seniority to bid the 99, at least. (That's my understanding, anyway.)
Good point. I didnt think about that. Where are the Navajos based? Please say PDX.
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With the caveat that some bases (SLC) are turbine-only bases and you must have sufficient seniority to bid the 99, at least. (That's my understanding, anyway.)
Seniority means jack at Amflight. If they can't fill the position, and you can be insured, you're in.
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....Which still means you are the most senior person that wants that run?
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good point. I didnt think about that. Where are the navajos based? Please say pdx. :d
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Ok, but when was the last time you saw someone hired straight into the 99? (No Chieftains at SLC.) And when was the last time they couldn't fill a 99 position from within?
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Ok, but when was the last time you saw someone hired straight into the 99? (No Chieftains at SLC.) And when was the last time they couldn't fill a 99 position from within?
Saw one or two at PHX back in the day.
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Last class there was a direct entry into the 99 and 1900 and four into the metro. I've been here only a few months but one thing I know, there are no absolutes when it comes to Amflight.
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