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Old March 7th, 2009, 00:12   #51
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Of course, and if you look at there payscale you see why...
You do know the pay is per duty hour! You can make about the same money if not more at Cape Air than flying a shiny 76 seat regional jet FO...
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Old March 7th, 2009, 00:24   #52
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I know people there. They love it. I would go there in a heartbeat even if the regionals were all hiring like gangbusters again.
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Old March 7th, 2009, 10:59   #53
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You do know the pay is per duty hour! You can make about the same money if not more at Cape Air than flying a shiny 76 seat regional jet FO...
Yep, I'm taking home just about double what I made first year the ERJ. Home every night, too. Can't complain too terribly much.
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Old March 7th, 2009, 17:25   #54
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You do know the pay is per duty hour! You can make about the same money if not more at Cape Air than flying a shiny 76 seat regional jet FO...

Really? how much time do you spend sitting around though? I mean thats swell and good but if you work for 12 hours flying 10 of those it doesn't make much of a difference...
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Really? how much time do you spend sitting around though? I mean thats swell and good but if you work for 12 hours flying 10 of those it doesn't make much of a difference...
You are still getting paid if you are sitting around!! It's just like a regular job, punch-in in the morning and punch-out at night and you are getting paid for the ENTIRE time you are on duty! At the airlines I get paid doors closed to open. I'm NOT getting paid during that lovely 3.5 hour airport sit. I wish the airlines would pay per duty hour, so I'm not doing the walkaround, paperwork, etc. for free. Oh, and Cape Air matches the per diem rate to most regionals.

I do not work at Cape, but if given the opportunity I will. And I am probably one of the few guys who will not take a recall at my regional!
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Old March 7th, 2009, 18:06   #56
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Cape Air has ATR-42s? Since when?

Anyway, pay per duty hour, now theres an idea.
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Old March 7th, 2009, 19:33   #57
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It all depends on your line. If you have a hard line with a minimum you're guaranteed a certain number of hours per week, usually 35 to 40. Up north that doesn't come out to a whole lot after taxes, but if you pick up an extra day you can get as much as 10 hours of overtime at time and a half. Head south for the winter and get an additional $3/hour. Not a fortune but not bad for a 402 pilot.


Generally speaking, most lines don't have much more than 5 hours of actual flying.


We've had ATR-42's in Guam for a year or two now. It's our 121 side of the company flying for Continental Connection. Our contract was just renewed through 2011.

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Interviewed as Capt on begining of Feb; got hired into the pool.

I was told posible ground school end of Mar or begin Aprl from last conversation with Cair few weeks ago.

I think I will keep swimming for now.
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Old March 7th, 2009, 21:04   #59
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I just put in my resume with Cape Air over the web site. I would not be able to relocate up north. I was hoping to work part-time but year round down in Florida. I have my ATP with 1750/350. The only way I know about them was through the web site. Just from the little research I did I saw no red flags, and after reading this, sounds like a good place to work. What are the odds of getting a call or email from them?
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We've had ATR-42's in Guam for a year or two now. It's our 121 side of the company flying for Continental Connection. Our contract was just renewed through 2011.
I thought they came online around 2003? I know it's been a good while; one of the SJU guys was in the first groundschool for it and I know it was a good 5-6 years ago. Ah, who knows.

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Really? how much time do you spend sitting around though? I mean thats swell and good but if you work for 12 hours flying 10 of those it doesn't make much of a difference...
From my experience it's a lot of time sitting around, but we're pretty overstaffed in this base. I do a 4 on/3 off backup schedule and actually am at work 25-30 hours/week, with 10-12 actual flight hours each week. But hey, guaranteed 40 hours/week at $18/hr ($15/hr first year + $3/hr override). It's really not terrible. If nothing else, if you have a line with 13 hours of duty each day, you legally cannot be scheduled for more than 8 hours of flight time. That's 5 hours of sitting around each day, but what the hell? You're getting paid anyway.
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Old March 7th, 2009, 21:17   #61
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Of course, and if you look at there payscale you see why...
Umm a pilot flying C402 will make more than a 3 yr regional FO.
I dont care when ppl share their opinions/views...but guy come on b4 you post something you have no clue about do some research.
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I just put in my resume with Cape Air over the web site. I would not be able to relocate up north. I was hoping to work part-time but year round down in Florida. I have my ATP with 1750/350. The only way I know about them was through the web site. Just from the little research I did I saw no red flags, and after reading this, sounds like a good place to work. What are the odds of getting a call or email from them?

I got hired with about the same hours you have and an ATP cert, though the timing was a little different. Just make sure to send a follow-up email, then another one, then a phone call, then another email . . . you get the drift.

Typically only pilots who have been with the company for at least a year are allowed to go to a part-time schedule. That being said, I do know a guy who went straight to PT out of training, but he has beaucoup flight time (like 20k plus) and a little more "bargaining power." It's not impossible, just unlikely.
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I thought they came online around 2003? I know it's been a good while; one of the SJU guys was in the first groundschool for it and I know it was a good 5-6 years ago. Ah, who knows.

Jeez, yeah that sounds right. What year is it?
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Umm a pilot flying C402 will make more than a 3 yr regional FO.
I dont care when ppl share their opinions/views...but guy come on b4 you post something you have no clue about do some research.
I've yet to see nonheavymetaldriver post anything intelligent.
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I just put in my resume with Cape Air over the web site. I would not be able to relocate up north. I was hoping to work part-time but year round down in Florida. I have my ATP with 1750/350. The only way I know about them was through the web site. Just from the little research I did I saw no red flags, and after reading this, sounds like a good place to work. What are the odds of getting a call or email from them?

I've heard Florida (RSW) is very senior.
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The sad part is that 90% of these people will quit or turn down a class date at the first sign of their airline doing recalls.
...which for those of us on the outside looking in, might be a positive.

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...which for those of us on the outside looking in, might be a positive.

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Cape Air is my top pick for a job. I just have to be 23.
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http://www.10tv.com/live/content/onn...r.html?sid=102

I guess a school janitor really does make as much money as a pilot.
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I guess a school janitor really does make as much money as a pilot.
You're surprised?
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I guess a school janitor really does make as much money as a pilot.
I don't think you can quite compare that to Cape. We're also making $15/hr, but you can also earn $4000/year in transition bonuses, and down south you're earning a $3/hr override at a higher min guarantee. Most hard lines have overtime built in, padding the paycheck as well. One of our captains who's been at Cape for two years put $68,000 on his last W-2. Granted he had to work damn hard for that, but it's doable.
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I don't think you can quite compare that to Cape. We're also making $15/hr, but you can also earn $4000/year in transition bonuses, and down south you're earning a $3/hr override at a higher min guarantee. Most hard lines have overtime built in, padding the paycheck as well. One of our captains who's been at Cape for two years put $68,000 on his last W-2. Granted he had to work damn hard for that, but it's doable.
There will always be peple considering themselfes no better than a janitor, even if flying for an airline. Some just need to feel that way.
I agree with mini, for those of us seeing and knowing about Cape (claim) I would say the chances will be quite good, once things turn around and look better for the SJS people. They will leave Cape in a hurry, and Cape will finally have a chance to hire people who want to do this, and don't feel they have to, to get ahead somewhere else.

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I don't think you can quite compare that to Cape. We're also making $15/hr, but you can also earn $4000/year in transition bonuses, and down south you're earning a $3/hr override at a higher min guarantee. Most hard lines have overtime built in, padding the paycheck as well. One of our captains who's been at Cape for two years put $68,000 on his last W-2. Granted he had to work damn hard for that, but it's doable.
Whats the average FO making per year? I have seen $9/hr in APC....I got an email today wanting more info on me and I'm really considering it, however, I dont know if a move is worth half what I make as a CFI.
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Whats the average FO making per year? I have seen $9/hr in APC....I got an email today wanting more info on me and I'm really considering it, however, I dont know if a move is worth half what I make as a CFI.
Nevermind, I scrolled up....
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