American Flyers CFI job

Raskolnikov · February 4th, 2009, 22:44

I got a postcard from American Flyers today. I don't know anything else about this job other than what's posted below.

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Whether you decide to teach full-time or part-time, we have a tremendous opportunity for you. American Flyers is currently recruiting quality teachers to fill positions at our nationwide flight school facilities. Positions available include full- and part-time, as well as classroom instructors.

Full-time salaried employment.
Benefits include: 401K, life insurance, paid holidays, Workman's Comp coverage.
Part-time employment - flexible hours available, 7-day-per-week schedule.
Best maintained fleet for 4-place Cessna aircraft.
Extensive use of Simulators means more working days.
Management opportunities available.
8 modern training facilities throughout the U.S.A.
No scheduling your own students.
No selling or cold-calling for students.

American Flyers' key to success for nearly 70 years has been the quality of our instructors. We only recruit the best. For more employment information, or to schedule an interview, email resume to elliott@af.tv.

SFCC/UND · February 4th, 2009, 22:57

I tried getting some informations about the ground classroom and never got an email back.

Cessna414JJB · February 4th, 2009, 23:06

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Originally Posted by SFCC/UND

I tried getting some informations about the ground classroom and never got an email back.

Pack it into a request for information for any of their programs and they will pester you for several weeks by calling & per email! They must be contacting CFI's/CFI-I's only through the FAA database. IGI's surely don't get these postcards...

retread · February 5th, 2009, 08:43

What do they pay their instructors these days? I did my IR and commercial training at a small flight school, but went to American Flyers in Addison, TX for CFI training in 1992. They wanted to put me to work, but at the time they were paying their instructors something like $5.00 per hour.

I politely declined.

todd405 · February 5th, 2009, 10:12

I was offered $2000/month back in September 07 after I finished the CFI Academy in Addison. I am not sure if that figure was based on how many billable hours I "could" make or if that is a straight salary. Retread, did you take a checkride with Smitty? He is still at down here!

retread · February 5th, 2009, 10:25

Todd, my ride was with a fellow by the name of Ted Goble (I think) at Redbird. One vivid memory of my oral, was when I made the mistake of refering to that piece of paper, now plastic, that pilots carry granting their airman privilege's as a pilot license. He took great pleasure in chewing my ass up one side and down the other explaining that we do not have pilot licenses in the United States, we have pilot certificates. I've never made that mistake since.

mshunter · February 5th, 2009, 15:38

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Originally Posted by retread

What do they pay their instructors these days? I did my IR and commercial training at a small flight school, but went to American Flyers in Addison, TX for CFI training in 1992. They wanted to put me to work, but at the time they were paying their instructors something like $5.00 per hour.

I politely declined.

It was my firts instructing job, and it didn't last. With what they charge (in a 172, $220 per hour dual, $190 solo), you'd figure they would pay their employees better than they do. As far as moving up, I was told if I worked real hard, I could go full time in 2 months. After three months of empty promises, and working 7 days a week, I found work elsewhere, flying nicer equipment, with better pay, and no suit and tie. My first three paychecks went to paying off the credit card just for work uniforms. I would stay away. I have meet the owners, and they are just a couple of Airline pilots turned bean counters. It's kinda like that ugly fat chick next door, she'll do in a pinch, but you woulden't want to be stuck with her.

Fr8dog44 · February 5th, 2009, 15:50

My first flying job was with American Flyers back in the early 90's at $800/month in Haywierd Cal. They promis raises and then reneg, telling you you're lucky to have a job! No multi-engine planes either so no opportunity to log multi time.

The ups side was I learned a great deal about intrument flying as a result of teaching mostly Instrument pilots.

Overall, not a great company to work for. Their mind-set is that pilots are expendable/replaceable. And yes they charge A LOT for your time and pay you peanuts while Harrington lives a lifestyle of the rich and famous.

I hope this gives all of you some insight!

mshunter · February 5th, 2009, 23:00

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Originally Posted by Fr8dog44

My first flying job was with American Flyers back in the early 90's at $800/month in Haywierd Cal. They promis raises and then reneg, telling you you're lucky to have a job! No multi-engine planes either so no opportunity to log multi time.

The ups side was I learned a great deal about intrument flying as a result of teaching mostly Instrument pilots.

Overall, not a great company to work for. Their mind-set is that pilots are expendable/replaceable. And yes they charge A LOT for your time and pay you peanuts while Harrington lives a lifestyle of the rich and famous.

I hope this gives all of you some insight!

Corporate greed. The rich get richer while the poor get poorer.

February 4th, 2009, 22:57	#2
SFCC/UND Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: humuhumunukunukuapuaa Posts: 3,100	Re: American Flyers CFI job I tried getting some informations about the ground classroom and never got an email back. __________________ Applied PUBNAT8 7/6/2009 AT-SAT Auth 8/13/2009 10/27/2009 AT-SAT in SLC

February 5th, 2009, 08:43	#4
retread Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Happy Bottom Riding Club, NH Posts: 48	Re: American Flyers CFI job What do they pay their instructors these days? I did my IR and commercial training at a small flight school, but went to American Flyers in Addison, TX for CFI training in 1992. They wanted to put me to work, but at the time they were paying their instructors something like $5.00 per hour. I politely declined. __________________ "The way I see it, you can either work for a living or you can fly airplanes. Me, I'd rather fly." -Len Morgan.

February 5th, 2009, 10:12	#5
todd405 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 58	Re: American Flyers CFI job I was offered $2000/month back in September 07 after I finished the CFI Academy in Addison. I am not sure if that figure was based on how many billable hours I "could" make or if that is a straight salary. Retread, did you take a checkride with Smitty? He is still at down here! __________________ "It is easier to explain to your friends why you had to go around than to explain to the FAA why you didn't."

February 5th, 2009, 10:25	#6
retread Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Happy Bottom Riding Club, NH Posts: 48	Re: American Flyers CFI job Todd, my ride was with a fellow by the name of Ted Goble (I think) at Redbird. One vivid memory of my oral, was when I made the mistake of refering to that piece of paper, now plastic, that pilots carry granting their airman privilege's as a pilot license. He took great pleasure in chewing my ass up one side and down the other explaining that we do not have pilot licenses in the United States, we have pilot certificates. I've never made that mistake since. __________________ "The way I see it, you can either work for a living or you can fly airplanes. Me, I'd rather fly." -Len Morgan.

February 5th, 2009, 15:50	#8
Fr8dog44 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 13	Re: American Flyers CFI job My first flying job was with American Flyers back in the early 90's at $800/month in Haywierd Cal. They promis raises and then reneg, telling you you're lucky to have a job! No multi-engine planes either so no opportunity to log multi time. The ups side was I learned a great deal about intrument flying as a result of teaching mostly Instrument pilots. Overall, not a great company to work for. Their mind-set is that pilots are expendable/replaceable. And yes they charge A LOT for your time and pay you peanuts while Harrington lives a lifestyle of the rich and famous. I hope this gives all of you some insight!

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