Empire Airlines - Page 2

TallFlyer · January 14th, 2009, 08:50

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Originally Posted by ppragman

Nope, but about 2000hrs is a better number. That's about what hageland is putting down on the dotted line for upgrade into the van on average, or more. I sincerely doubt that Grant would put you in the van at 1500TT either, you'd have to come there with at least 1000TT, and then a year to a year and a half later you'd upgrade, count on like 2000-2500TT before you're in the van.

Hey, I'm just telling your verbatim what the CP said to me in his office. What the heck does he know?

Hageland mins have not a lot to do with hours, but availability of aircraft. Most guys spend a winter or two in the 207 and have to pass the drinking buddy test (and the ability to stay sane in the Bethel pilot house, not an easy thing).

Grant is definitely a bit more low key in a lot of regards. You telling me that a 1200 hour guy would have issues going between ANC and HOM all day?

ppragman · January 14th, 2009, 11:10

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Originally Posted by TallFlyer

Hey, I'm just telling your verbatim what the CP said to me in his office. What the heck does he know?

Hageland mins have not a lot to do with hours, but availability of aircraft. Most guys spend a winter or two in the 207 and have to pass the drinking buddy test (and the ability to stay sane in the Bethel pilot house, not an easy thing).

Grant is definitely a bit more low key in a lot of regards. You telling me that a 1200 hour guy would have issues going between ANC and HOM all day?

A 1200TT guy wouldn't have issues with ANC and HOM, but he would have issues with BET and Emmonak, Bet and Sain't Maries, BET and you get the picture.

TallFlyer · January 14th, 2009, 16:19

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Originally Posted by ppragman

A 1200TT guy wouldn't have issues with ANC and HOM, but he would have issues with BET and Emmonak, Bet and Sain't Maries, BET and you get the picture.

Well actually you just listed some of the easy ones, but I see where you're going with that.

That said, I'd rather fly the Van into any of the 'hard' ones rather than the 207, but I've got way more time in the Van than the 207 as well.

ppragman · January 14th, 2009, 20:04

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Originally Posted by TallFlyer

Well actually you just listed some of the easy ones, but I see where you're going with that.

That said, I'd rather fly the Van into any of the 'hard' ones rather than the 207, but I've got way more time in the Van than the 207 as well.

Its not the runways, its the icing and the associated judgement calls that come with flying IFR in the van (bootleg or otherwise) add into that a culture of "getter'dun" and you can see how it might get tough (though Grant is pretty good on the culture) There's a reason that no one is flying the van in alaska with IFR 135 mins, and insurance ain't the only reason.

Jbroz04 · January 14th, 2009, 20:17

If your future goal was to fly a van for a fedex feeder such as MAC or Empire would it be wise to get your single engine ATP. I mean would it give you a edge up over applicants who dont have it.

Offload Complete · January 19th, 2009, 22:15

Anybody hear feedback or results of the job advertisement?

staplegun · January 20th, 2009, 01:33

I thought this was a thread about the "original" Empire Airlines (1976-1985)!

My second airline job was with Piedmont (the "original" Piedmont) and my first base was in Syracuse flying the F-28 with all of the old Empire captains.

Interesting group, interesting times!

Kevin

Doug Taylor · January 20th, 2009, 02:53

Meeeeeeem'riiiiiiiiiies of the time (well, crap, not like I really know that song or anything...)

ppragman · January 20th, 2009, 03:02

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Originally Posted by Offload Complete

Anybody hear feedback or results of the job advertisement?

They told me to reapply when I had the requisite time, and that there would probably be openings.

staplegun · January 20th, 2009, 03:32

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Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Meeeeeeem'riiiiiiiiiies of the time (well, crap, not like I really know that song or anything...)

I was only based in Syracuse for 2 or 3 months, after that I moved to Charlotte.

Piedmont had the "Florida Shuttle" then - we had 4 day trips where the first leg would be CLT-"somewhere-in Florida" and then we would spend the next 4 days never leaving the state of Florida until the last leg back to CLT. Those were some great trips!

Kevin

Doug Taylor · January 20th, 2009, 03:41

You look way too young to know that much man. Kudos!

January 14th, 2009, 20:17	#30
Jbroz04 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vermilion Posts: 614	Re: Empire Airlines If your future goal was to fly a van for a fedex feeder such as MAC or Empire would it be wise to get your single engine ATP. I mean would it give you a edge up over applicants who dont have it. __________________ The last thing every pilot does after a gear up landing is to move the gear selector to down.

January 19th, 2009, 22:15	#31
Offload Complete Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 9	Re: Empire Airlines Anybody hear feedback or results of the job advertisement?

January 20th, 2009, 01:33	#32
staplegun Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Park Ridge, IL Posts: 1,255	Re: Empire Airlines I thought this was a thread about the "original" Empire Airlines (1976-1985)! My second airline job was with Piedmont (the "original" Piedmont) and my first base was in Syracuse flying the F-28 with all of the old Empire captains. Interesting group, interesting times! Kevin __________________ "Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!" - Goethe

January 20th, 2009, 03:41	#36
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 50,368 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Empire Airlines You look way too young to know that much man. Kudos! __________________ Doug Taylor PPL-SEL PA-38 Typed

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