Cape Air is hiring again

[kellwolf]

Originally Posted by shinysideup

Good Luck, if you do fly in the Northeast, you will leave that company with the best stick and rudder IFR flying skills. Mine have deteriorated quickly since I left there over a year ago.

Yeah, I didn't even know you were gone. Felt like a little awkward when I asked someone "Hey, do you know so-and-so. He was my old instructor" and they said "He's been gone for a while."

[shinysideup]

Originally Posted by saxman66

Just wondering what Cape Air schedules are like. I heard 5 on 2 off. Is that it for the entire month or can you get a longer break each month? Also understood you're home every night, but you'll have to live in base or at least in driving distance. I talked to one pilot, who said if you're willing to live in the Northeast in one of the smaller towns, like Plattsburgh or Hyannis you'd probably just stay up there. That true?

/////DISCLAIMER - information from over a year ago when I left, and things may have changed since then//////

Most of the schedules are on a 7 day cycle. (I say most because there are a few 3on/3off rotations for the smaller bases that only have one plane/2 pilots based there; such as Mayaguez and Ponce Puerto Rico). Most of the 7 day cycle lines are 5on/2off some are 4on/3off and there are usually a few 3on/4off(you need 10+ years seniority to hold one of those). The nice part about it is you are home every night (if you live where you are based), and it is the closest thing to a 9-5 job you can find in aviation.

Hope that helps

[shinysideup]

Originally Posted by kellwolf

Yeah, I didn't even know you were gone. Felt like a little awkward when I asked someone "Hey, do you know so-and-so. He was my old instructor" and they said "He's been gone for a while."

Yeah, I left last summer. I miss it sometimes, then I hop into the LR60 and all those sentimental thoughts go away as I do 3500 fpm climb at 340kias through 15k on the way to FL410...)

[saxman66]

Originally Posted by shinysideup

/////DISCLAIMER - information from over a year ago when I left, and things may have changed since then//////

Most of the schedules are on a 7 day cycle. (I say most because there are a few 3on/3off rotations for the smaller bases that only have one plane/2 pilots based there; such as Mayaguez and Ponce Puerto Rico). Most of the 7 day cycle lines are 5on/2off some are 4on/3off and there are usually a few 3on/4off(you need 10+ years seniority to hold one of those). The nice part about it is you are home every night (if you live where you are based), and it is the closest thing to a 9-5 job you can find in aviation.

Hope that helps

So in other words there is no certain number of days off per month? Or sounds like only 8 to me. Granted you're home every night, but I also like having a strectch of several days off in a row. Does that exist at Cape Air?

[milleR]

Right now the majority of the lines (around 50%) are 4 on 3 off. The rest are either 5/2, 4/4, or 4/5 (commuter schedule for Albany).

[kellwolf]

Originally Posted by shinysideup

Yeah, I left last summer. I miss it sometimes, then I hop into the LR60 and all those sentimental thoughts go away as I do 3500 fpm climb at 340kias through 15k on the way to FL410...)

While I'm getting vectors for my climb as you blow right by me. Yeah, rub it in.

[Speedbird172]

Originally Posted by milleR

Right now the majority of the lines (around 50%) are 4 on 3 off. The rest are either 5/2, 4/4, or 4/5 (commuter schedule for Albany).

I'd heard about this 'commuter schedule'. Does this mean they have overnights on the trips out of ALB? Also how hard would it to be to hold BOS year-round as a junior pilot now that it is a year round base? Someone mentioned to me that it is fairly junior because the senior guys try to avoid BOS if they can help it, of course I have no idea how true that is or not. I've asked on some other forums too, just trying to get some other perspectives before I put my app in. Thanks!

[milleR]

There are overnights on the ALB schedule, though I don't know where they are (whether in Ogdensburg, Watertown, etc.)

During the winter BOS stays relatively senior. By that I mean a new-hire probably isn't going to get it. If you have a year in, your chances are pretty good though. There are only nine lines right now out of boston, and a couple of them are set up of commuter lines so they are pretty popular.

Cape Air is currently hiring into a pool for a possible late January or early February class date.

[Speedbird172]

Great thanks for the info! I'm just getting my app together, turning into quite the project but hopefully it'll be worthit. Sounds like a great group of people over there.

[Blip16]

what do they pay the 402 captains?

[milleR]

15/duty hour up north and 18/duty hour in the Carib. Most lines have a guaranteed weekly minimum between 35 and 45 hours.

There's good money to be made in puerto rico since any time over 8 hours in a day is considered overtime which gets time and a half or 27 bucks an hour. Therefore if your line is ten hours of duty time means you will get 2 hours overtime every day.

[CRJDriver]

I'm not sure if this has changed or not, but I have heard different things on this. On the web stie it says you need to have an ATP, but I've also heard that they will now give you your ATP when you do your checkride? The only two things holding me back from applying is the ATP and the possibility of the high cost of living in the Northeast or Caribbean. Although, I guess if you are based in some of the outstations in NE it might not be as expensive as BOS. It also says they will assist with housing?

[Blip16]

Originally Posted by milleR

15/duty hour up north and 18/duty hour in the Carib. Most lines have a guaranteed weekly minimum between 35 and 45 hours.

There's good money to be made in puerto rico since any time over 8 hours in a day is considered overtime which gets time and a half or 27 bucks an hour. Therefore if your line is ten hours of duty time means you will get 2 hours overtime every day.

thats ok then. i make a little more now, but that isn't as bad of a cut as going to a regional

[milleR]

Originally Posted by CRJDriver

I'm not sure if this has changed or not, but I have heard different things on this. On the web stie it says you need to have an ATP, but I've also heard that they will now give you your ATP when you do your checkride? The only two things holding me back from applying is the ATP and the possibility of the high cost of living in the Northeast or Caribbean. Although, I guess if you are based in some of the outstations in NE it might not be as expensive as BOS. It also says they will assist with housing?

If you already have your ATP AMEL then you are expected to work for six months. I you do not then a fed DPE will ride in the back seat while you do your 135 PC ride and you will get your cert when you pass. In this case you are expected to work for one year. Let me stress: this is NOT a training contract. If you leave before your obligated time then you simply get a note in your file that says "not eligible for re-hire". The only money you may be held responsible for would be the bonus they offer for moving to the Caribbean.

As far as housing assistance goes I don't know of anything in the northeast outside of the extensive network of past and present Cape Air employees. In PR there is a real estate agent who works with us to find housing, but there is no financial assistance if that is what you mean.

[determined2fly]

The FO pay for the ATR position in Guam continues to be a mystery.

[CRJDriver]

Originally Posted by milleR

If you already have your ATP AMEL then you are expected to work for six months. I you do not then a fed DPE will ride in the back seat while you do your 135 PC ride and you will get your cert when you pass. In this case you are expected to work for one year. Let me stress: this is NOT a training contract. If you leave before your obligated time then you simply get a note in your file that says "not eligible for re-hire". The only money you may be held responsible for would be the bonus they offer for moving to the Caribbean.

As far as housing assistance goes I don't know of anything in the northeast outside of the extensive network of past and present Cape Air employees. In PR there is a real estate agent who works with us to find housing, but there is no financial assistance if that is what you mean.

Thanks for the info! What is the hiring situation now? Are they still interviewing before the holidays? And are new-hires going south right now.

Also, one of my co-workers is also interested, he has 135 mins., but is a bit short on ATP mins, could he work on the Freight/Cargo side until he meets ATP mins. and then transition to the Pax side? I told him to just apply anyway.

[milleR]

Gene is always interviewing, however the last I heard (as mentioned earlier) is that we are hiring into a pool for late Jan or early Feb. New hires are going south for the most part, though there may be openings in places like Rockland or Lebanon. I just don't know right now. Your friend may have a shot at the mail runs, though they usually put FO's in there once they get their 135 mins. But it never hurts to throw an app in.

[milleR]

Originally Posted by determined2fly

The FO pay for the ATR position in Guam continues to be a mystery.

For most of us, all of Guam is a mystery, though it's a moot point since I think all the spots are filled right now.

[shinysideup]

Originally Posted by milleR

For most of us, all of Guam is a mystery, though it's a moot point since I think all the spots are filled right now.

Yeah That!

I considered it for a while and was never given a straight answer.

[dasleben]

Originally Posted by shinysideup

Yeah, I left last summer. I miss it sometimes, then I hop into the LR60 and all those sentimental thoughts go away as I do 3500 fpm climb at 340kias through 15k on the way to FL410...)

I came to Cape from a 121 jet and this type of flying is way more fun than the flying I did there. Then again, it was no Lear 60.

[milleR]

Word on the street is that the class for January is on. It looks like we're going to get a couple new lines in Maryland this spring and we've purchased several new airframes, so if you're in the pool good luck and if not then throw your resumes in quick.

[Speedbird172]

Good news! This is probably premature to ask but would this imply that new hires would be shipped to MD or are any current pilots interested in those lines? Also, are those several new airframes solely for the MD routes? Thanks.

[CATIV]

Originally Posted by determined2fly

The FO pay for the ATR position in Guam continues to be a mystery.

ATR 1st YR FO pay is 23.13/hr+1 for int flying (+1 if you fly the night shift)@72 hrs/month. So it comes out to be between $24.13-25.13
Day shift is very long show 0920-1020 (8 legs)
Night shift show time 0130-0900, much more laid back (4 legs)
Good part is that their are no layovers, bad part no per diem
Awesome crews, very friendly environment here

if you have any more qs just PM

[milleR]

Originally Posted by Speedbird172

Good news! This is probably premature to ask but would this imply that new hires would be shipped to MD or are any current pilots interested in those lines? Also, are those several new airframes solely for the MD routes? Thanks.

Nope. New hires will go to whichever base they are awarded for the bid period. I know three people (including myself) who will likely bid MD though I don't know exactly how many pilots they expect to have based there. My guess is two in HGR and two in LRP, though it may be more.

[BigJetLilJet]

Originally Posted by milleR

Nope. New hires will go to whichever base they are awarded for the bid period. I know three people (including myself) who will likely bid MD though I don't know exactly how many pilots they expect to have based there. My guess is two in HGR and two in LRP, though it may be more.

Where is LRP?