U.S. Customs and Border Protection (AIA/AEO) - Page 12

BillErvin · June 13th, 2009, 12:52

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Originally Posted by if4not

I've forgotten how the process works. You get your NOR, then do you get a phone call for the interview, and then the COE? When do they start the BI process and can I go ahead and start tracking all that info down now?

Looks about right, the BI would start after the COE

It would be a lot easier for you if you got it together now, rather than when you actually need it. Just find a SF-86 security questionnaire on the web and gather the information it asks for.

if4not · June 13th, 2009, 22:21

Thanks!

Has anyone heard anything beyond the NOR yet?

aviatortolle · June 14th, 2009, 05:28

I'm in the same boat as Heath. I am waiting on my BI.

BillErvin · June 14th, 2009, 13:21

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Originally Posted by aviatortolle

I'm in the same boat as Heath. I am waiting on my BI.

3 am post, one of "those" nights Jeremy?

Heath · June 16th, 2009, 09:04

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Originally Posted by Heavy Duty

Best of luck Heath. We all still know you can fly a 172 if it comes to that.

LOL Thanks, it was fun. Never know, I might end up cruisin' the border in a super-cub.

Heath · June 16th, 2009, 09:06

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Originally Posted by aviatortolle

I'm in the same boat as Heath. I am waiting on my BI.

Seems like we'll never start!

I'm ready to be done with the airlines!

Heath · June 16th, 2009, 20:48

Got the call from my BI investigator today.

Things are movin', YAY!

Tram · June 17th, 2009, 00:04

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Originally Posted by Heath

I'm ready to be done with the airlines!

LOL.. There's a mouthful there..

les · June 17th, 2009, 14:12

As far as the "next fiscal year" business . . . is that this October (2009)? Is that when I can start getting excited again about hoping for a package in the mail?

What would be a realistic time frame to expect between now and when I'd start working if I got my first response in Oct. 2009? (I've already received my NOR)

Is there anyone to contact at the agency for more info or just what I hear here?

Thanks, Les

BillErvin · June 18th, 2009, 13:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by les

As far as the "next fiscal year" business . . . is that this October (2009)? Is that when I can start getting excited again about hoping for a package in the mail?

What would be a realistic time frame to expect between now and when I'd start working if I got my first response in Oct. 2009? (I've already received my NOR)

Is there anyone to contact at the agency for more info or just what I hear here?

Thanks, Les

It's happened my entire career, just about June/July all hiring, paid moves and anything that requires large expenditures, comes to a screeching halt.

Late October early November things start loosening up again.... as long as Congress

gets it together and passes the particular spending bill you fall under.

triple7 · June 20th, 2009, 19:35

MY BI is moving full steam as well. Trying to find two Capts ive flown with who would be in EWR on the same day was a challenge. But I figured it out. Im definitely ready to move on as well. If nothing more than the bump in pay and QOL....living in DC on a FO salary and commuting has me pulling my hair out.

C150J · June 20th, 2009, 22:30

Has your investigator directly spoken with either of you? I have multiple investigators (multiple regions of the country), and no one has spoken to me directly. I keep hearing that my references are getting called, but nothing for me yet.

Heath · June 21st, 2009, 08:57

Yeah, I've spoken with two of them on the phone. One wanted contact information for my ex-wife to interview her (good luck with that one, buddy), the other scheduled my in-person for Monday.

Heath · June 21st, 2009, 09:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by les

As far as the "next fiscal year" business . . . is that this October (2009)? Is that when I can start getting excited again about hoping for a package in the mail?

What would be a realistic time frame to expect between now and when I'd start working if I got my first response in Oct. 2009? (I've already received my NOR)

Is there anyone to contact at the agency for more info or just what I hear here?

Thanks, Les

If you've just gotten an NOR, the next step would be to hope your NOR is competitive enough to get a call to schedule an interview. Then you get yourself to OKC, at your expense, to interview, wait 1-3 months for conditional offers (COE) to be sent out. That's when they start Background Investgations (where I'm at now). Upon completion of your BI, you wait around again for a call officially offering you a job at a hard-and-fast location, along with the date you EOD (enter on duty) and the day you start training at FLETC. Whole process takes a year or more from the day you apply till you start.

Word I'm hearing for interview calls for the posting that closed 5/15 is to expect calls to go out in the next few weeks. I'd check out the bulletin boards on www.aptap.org for more info.

Good luck,

aviatortolle · June 22nd, 2009, 03:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillErvin

3 am post, one of "those" nights Jeremy?

Two words.....Night Shift

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heath

Got the call from my BI investigator today.

Things are movin', YAY!

Dang you!! I just got my credit checked but no call from the investigators.

MikeD · June 22nd, 2009, 04:24

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Originally Posted by aviatortolle

Dang you!! I just got my credit checked but no call from the investigators.

No, that was just me. Sorry for the confusion.

BillErvin · June 22nd, 2009, 11:11

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Originally Posted by MikeD

No, that was just me. Sorry for the confusion.

Mike if you need any good dirt, He was one of my cadets in CAP up in Spokane.

aviatortolle · June 23rd, 2009, 03:05

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Originally Posted by BillErvin

Mike if you need any good dirt, He was one of my cadets in CAP up in Spokane.

OH NO!!! Theres no dirt here....thats what rugs are for

BillErvin · June 23rd, 2009, 09:44

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Originally Posted by aviatortolle

OH NO!!! Theres no dirt here....thats what rugs are for

Chances are, there are pictures

aviatortolle · June 23rd, 2009, 19:29

I wouldn't doubt it Bill. You don't happen to remember Col. Sabot do you? hehehe

triple7 · June 27th, 2009, 12:10

I finished my interview with the BI investigator. Rumour is they have been poking around EWR and around the flight school where I worked. Hoping for the best.

chunk75 · June 30th, 2009, 00:46

If anyone is interested in AEO, drop me a line. I just started last month (FLETC now)...

Air & Marine is a great gig. Everyone I've met so far has been great!

Chunk

MikeD · June 30th, 2009, 00:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by chunk75

If anyone is interested in AEO, drop me a line. I just started last month (FLETC now)...

Air & Marine is a great gig. Everyone I've met so far has been great!

Chunk

Trunk Monkey.....

chunk75 · June 30th, 2009, 01:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeD

Trunk Monkey.....

For now...I'm a patient guy.

chunk75 · June 30th, 2009, 01:02

There are several in my FLETC class who have yet to even talk to a BI, but some guys (mostly FAM crossovers) who are already done. Just never know. It's not unheard of to graduate, get your creds, then hand them right back after graduation because of an open BI from what we've been told.

Current class (I know, I keep going back to that but it gives a good snapshot of the current hiring) is mostly boat guys. Of the AIAs, only 1 is civ only (CRJ captain), 1 reserve Viper driver, 1 Apache, 3 Blackhawk (1 CG, 1 Army, 1 AF). 2 AEOs (both Navy AWs, one a former FAM current P-3 Orion reservist, one [me] former active S-3 Viking, local LEO, low time CIME). The # of boat guys has been increasing in the past few classes.

Latest word here is 2 more classes (24 slots per) this FY.

June 13th, 2009, 22:21	#277
if4not Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 16	Re: U.S. Customs and Border Protection (AIA/AEO) Thanks! Has anyone heard anything beyond the NOR yet?

June 14th, 2009, 05:28	#278
aviatortolle Newbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 14	Re: U.S. Customs and Border Protection (AIA/AEO) I'm in the same boat as Heath. I am waiting on my BI.

June 16th, 2009, 20:48	#282
Heath Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 382	Re: U.S. Customs and Border Protection (AIA/AEO) Got the call from my BI investigator today. Things are movin', YAY!

June 17th, 2009, 14:12	#284
les Newbie Join Date: May 2009 Location: Austin Posts: 5	Re: U.S. Customs and Border Protection (AIA/AEO) As far as the "next fiscal year" business . . . is that this October (2009)? Is that when I can start getting excited again about hoping for a package in the mail? What would be a realistic time frame to expect between now and when I'd start working if I got my first response in Oct. 2009? (I've already received my NOR) Is there anyone to contact at the agency for more info or just what I hear here? Thanks, Les

June 20th, 2009, 19:35	#286
triple7 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Arlington, VA(EWR on the weekends) Posts: 936	Re: U.S. Customs and Border Protection (AIA/AEO) MY BI is moving full steam as well. Trying to find two Capts ive flown with who would be in EWR on the same day was a challenge. But I figured it out. Im definitely ready to move on as well. If nothing more than the bump in pay and QOL....living in DC on a FO salary and commuting has me pulling my hair out. __________________ CFI, CFII, MEI- KJYO Commercial MEL/SEL, Instrument airplane EMB-145 SIC

June 20th, 2009, 22:30	#287
C150J Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,324	Re: U.S. Customs and Border Protection (AIA/AEO) Has your investigator directly spoken with either of you? I have multiple investigators (multiple regions of the country), and no one has spoken to me directly. I keep hearing that my references are getting called, but nothing for me yet.

June 21st, 2009, 08:57	#288
Heath Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bowling Green, KY Posts: 382	Re: U.S. Customs and Border Protection (AIA/AEO) Yeah, I've spoken with two of them on the phone. One wanted contact information for my ex-wife to interview her (good luck with that one, buddy), the other scheduled my in-person for Monday.

June 23rd, 2009, 19:29	#295
aviatortolle Newbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 14	Re: U.S. Customs and Border Protection (AIA/AEO) I wouldn't doubt it Bill. You don't happen to remember Col. Sabot do you? hehehe

June 27th, 2009, 12:10	#296
triple7 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Arlington, VA(EWR on the weekends) Posts: 936	Re: U.S. Customs and Border Protection (AIA/AEO) I finished my interview with the BI investigator. Rumour is they have been poking around EWR and around the flight school where I worked. Hoping for the best. __________________ CFI, CFII, MEI- KJYO Commercial MEL/SEL, Instrument airplane EMB-145 SIC

June 30th, 2009, 00:46	#297
chunk75 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: FL Posts: 930	Re: U.S. Customs and Border Protection (AIA/AEO) If anyone is interested in AEO, drop me a line. I just started last month (FLETC now)... Air & Marine is a great gig. Everyone I've met so far has been great! Chunk __________________ Luck is when preparation meets opportunity. Character is much easier kept than recovered. -Thomas Paine

June 30th, 2009, 01:02	#300
chunk75 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: FL Posts: 930	Re: U.S. Customs and Border Protection (AIA/AEO) There are several in my FLETC class who have yet to even talk to a BI, but some guys (mostly FAM crossovers) who are already done. Just never know. It's not unheard of to graduate, get your creds, then hand them right back after graduation because of an open BI from what we've been told. Current class (I know, I keep going back to that but it gives a good snapshot of the current hiring) is mostly boat guys. Of the AIAs, only 1 is civ only (CRJ captain), 1 reserve Viper driver, 1 Apache, 3 Blackhawk (1 CG, 1 Army, 1 AF). 2 AEOs (both Navy AWs, one a former FAM current P-3 Orion reservist, one [me] former active S-3 Viking, local LEO, low time CIME). The # of boat guys has been increasing in the past few classes. Latest word here is 2 more classes (24 slots per) this FY. __________________ Luck is when preparation meets opportunity. Character is much easier kept than recovered. -Thomas Paine

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