IATA hiring instructors.

[Aero_Engineer]

Just got this in the flight school email and I thought I'll share it with you all:

The International Airline Training Academy is currently hiring flight
instructors.

IATA is a contract training provider for international airline companies.
www.iataweb.com



IATA has just increased their compensation package considerably, see
attached file.

If you are considering a school you are welcome to contact our Chief Flight
Instructor, Djavad 866-908-1263, ext. 224 or by email to djavad@iataweb.com.
His hours are 8-5 Tue-Sat. If possible please include a copy of your
resume.



We are a 141 flight school with contracts to teach foreign students. We
currently are maintaining around 200 students. We train in a variety of
airplanes ranging from Cessna, Piper and Beech craft. The Cessna 150/152 is
our smallest and the Beech King Air is the largest. We have 66 airplanes in
our fleet. In addition we currently have 6 flight training devices in our
flight simulation hangar. Our instructors are limited only by regulation for
flying time. Instructor schedules are 5 days per week with flight schedules
based on 7 days 18-24 hours per day. We have over 60 aircraft from C150
thru King Air 90. We have excellent maintenance with our own facility. You
will have an opportunity to fly everything in our fleet as you qualify. Our
King Air fleet does over 12,000 hours per year.

The academy operates under FAR Part 141 holding both a US and a Chinese
certificate additionally we hold Chinese Part 142 flight training center
certificate and we have submitted all documentation for FAA Part 142
Training Center awaiting final certification.



We are based in the Tucson, Arizona area at Ryan Airport which is about 15
miles West of Tucson International Airport. The Tucson area is a wonderful
area to live with a wide variety of recreational resources. Tucson Lemon
Mountain Ski area is the Southern most ski area in the US. We have Kit Peak
National Observatory about 25 miles from the airport and the US Mexico
border is about one hour from here and much more. The weather for flying in
Tucson is the best in the world with almost unlimited flying about 360 days
a year.

Best Regards,



Bob Reser

VP Safety

International Airline Training Academy




And this is the compensation package they offer:

INTERNATIONAL AIRLINE TRAINING ACADEMY

FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR POSITIONS

Compensation:
Effective Immediately—March 10, 2008
Salary:
Year One
• Category 1
New Instructors with less than 500 Hrs Dual Given $36,000
• Category 2
Instructors with at Least 500 Hrs Dual Given but
Less than 1,500 Dual Given $41,000
• Category 3
Instructors with more than 1,500 Hrs Dual Given $45,000

Year Two
• Category 1 $43,000
• Category 2 $45,000
• Category 3 $54,000

Flight Management Personnel
• Check Airman Add to Above Rate $ 4,000
• Assistant Chief Add to Above Rate $ 6,000

Overtime: (Beyond 5 days per week)
• Each Additional Day $ 200

Other Compensation:

• Flex Dollars:
o Year One $ 1,000
o Year Two $ 2,000
o Year Three $ 4,000
o Year Four $ 8,000


Benefits:

• Paid Vacations:
o Year One 5 Days
o Year Two 10 Days
o Year Three 10 Days
o Year Four 15 Days

• 401K: After 18 month with company
o Company Matches $0.25 per dollar invested
o First $10,000 invested only (Each year)

• Free Lodging
o First 2 Months of Employment

• Career Advancement
o $2,500 Credit towards CFI after CPL hiring
o $1,500 Credit towards CFII after 6 months
o $2,000 Credit towards MEL and/or MEI after 12 months
o 6 months commitment required for each credit

Information:
Fleet:

• 44 Single Engine
• 10 Multi Engine Piston
• 3 Multi Engine Turboprop
• 6 FTD

Programs:

• Domestic Ab-Initio
• International Ab-Initio
• FAA, CAAC and DGCA Authorities
• Custom Programs

[SFCC/UND]

Sent my resume, but haven't heard back from him.

[sdfcvoh]

This may turn out interesting..... from what I've gathered from instructors and other mechanics at RYN, these guys are on their last leg. Many instructors have been jumping ship, and they aren't maintaining their fleet anymore. No money for the repairs of big stuff.

I have no idea what part of that is total truth and total junk, but its what I've heard while out at the airport. Make sure you know what you're getting into if you decide to move out here for work with them. Hopefully its all just smoke that will blow over.

[TexasFlyer]

I'll do some research here. I'm a good 4-5 months away from having all three CFI's, unless I get lucky and knock it out quicker. So I booked marked the IATA for future reference and research.

If anyone gets out there for interviews or knows first hand info about current conditions and future outlook, I'd love to see the details as would several others too.

San Antonio, Tucson, and San Diego are the three places I would like to settle down permanently (in that order of preference). So I'd jump on a great flying job in any of those locations. I very much dislike Atlanta as a city (although I lived in worse places). But at the end of the day, I'll go anywhere I need to in order to fly... my sites will always be on getting to one of my three fave locations though.

[CFII2008]

Is anyone teaching @ IATA now? How about anyone who has taught there in the past-what was it like over all? (The good, bad and ugly). PM if you like.

[cfii2007]

Nice handle by the way............

[Codyjp]

I get an email about every week from somebody who works for them. I just can't get past the thought that the guy has no ability to use the spell check on his letters. They seem really really desperate for instructors. (that is good for all CFI's!!)

[CLEVERK1]

I would be also interested in reports from current IATA instructors. One can read so many different things about it (last leg etc..).
PM me if you like.

Best regards
Clever

[JoeBlow]

I was one of the first hires there when they moved from their Glendale, Arizona location to Tucson. The owner is a joke. He once told me that I must essentially be willing to pimp myself out in the beginning of my flying career to pay my dues. Yeah, everyone needs to pay their dues, but the exact words this guy used were unprofessional and it showed me his true lack of ethics. He doesn’t care about his employees. I would run like the wind and never consider working for this company. This company would not be in business if it weren’t for their Chinese contracts. They will promise you the world (hold out a carrot or two) and then stab you in the back. I got tired of their crap and decided not to take in anymore. Look at their website. Nothing is updated. See the picture of their flight school on the bottom right of their website; it is a picture of when the KLM training academy operated out of their location. So it’s not even a picture of their operations. See the yellow planes; well they just painted over them. They started out of their Tucson location in the summer of 2003. This guy can’t be trusted. Their airplanes are crap; everything is a joke. The picture of Chinese students on their site must have been taken shortly after their arrival in late 2003. Jean-Marc Eloy’s VP essentially asked if we had a problem with them practicing copyright infringements. They use like Jeppesen training material and put their name on it. This is how it was when I was there. I’m sure their have been changes (good or bad), but I doubt the owner’s ethics have changed.

It appears that they are being sued by Bank of America as of November 2007.
http://www.azbiz.com/articles/2007/1...4321717520.txt

Student complaint
http://www.azstarnet.com/dailystar/224440

http://www.aero-news.net/news/genav....ws%2Fgenav.cfm

[cfii2007]

Nice articles...sounds alot like ASA located in Atwater, CA. Students are promised all their ratings in 10 months yet only fly maybe twice a week at best. Some I have spoken to spent almost 4 months there and had not yet even soloed.

I guess one way to retain CFI's is to treat them better and offer higher pay.

[Codyjp]

Or Rainbow Air in Long Beach California.

Guaranteed contracts for training are the worst thing to ever meet the flight training business.

[CFII2008]

Any new news re: IATA?

[matador]

The local paper has an article in it about IATA filing Chapter 11 today.
That is the second flight school at Ryan to close down within three months --- Silver State helicoptes was the first.

Apparently the contracts with China airlines were not as lucrative as they were thought to be.

[TexasFlyer]

Silver State was like a crazy pyramid scheme in the flight instruction world. So no suprises there. IATA though, too bad to hear the struggles there.

Oh well. Count this place out as a way to one of my three places I'd like to live. Between what I been hearing about them as a place to work and now this, not a good sign.

Any other schools in Tuscon that are stable, growing, decent pay, and treat people right?

Yeah I know. That's asking a lot in the CFI world. Any other options in Tucson for low time commercial pilots of around 1000/200TT?

[JoeBlow]

Like I said, the owner is shady and likes to talk a big game. I wouldn’t be surprised if this guy tries to open another school somewhere. As the school was waiting for its first class of Chinese students to arrive, the owner told us that we had to put on an act and pretend the school was in operations with ground school and flight training in progress for some Chinese big wigs who were coming to visit. He deserves chapter 11 for the way he runs his business, the way he treats students and flight instructors. Someone should call the school and pose as a potential student and request information about flight training there or becoming a flight instructor. From what I know, the Chinese will not complain if there is an issue; they will just pull their students out. They had contracts with several Chinese airlines. I bet he hasn’t even told his employees that chapter 11 has been filed.

[sdfcvoh]

Try National Pilot Academy. They'll be the next school closing down at Ryan in Tucson. What is it about that airport? Its like it brings out the very worst in schools.

Originally Posted by TexasFlyer

Silver State was like a crazy pyramid scheme in the flight instruction world. So no suprises there. IATA though, too bad to hear the struggles there.

Oh well. Count this place out as a way to one of my three places I'd like to live. Between what I been hearing about them as a place to work and now this, not a good sign.

Any other schools in Tuscon that are stable, growing, decent pay, and treat people right?

Yeah I know. That's asking a lot in the CFI world. Any other options in Tucson for low time commercial pilots of around 1000/200TT?

[number_twelve]

This is some important info for me, I've been in contact as recently as last week with the Asst. Chief Flight Instructor there about employment. Honestly, I'd love nothing more than to find a place to instruct for in Tucson, but I don't think there's a good place around those parts.

When talking to them on the phone last week, they told me that having a CFI will get me a job offer... I didn't even get far enough to ask about their fleet of Flintstone aged aircraft. I've been hopefully planning on moving to Tucson for about 6 months now and it's looking like I might have to start looking elsewhere.

This is great info to know before I make my final decision about working there, just not the kind of info I WANT to hear! Somebody tell me there is a GOOD school to work for in Tucson, please!!!

[TexasFlyer]

Originally Posted by number_twelve

Somebody tell me there is a GOOD school to work for in Tucson, please!!!

[staplegun]

Originally Posted by JoeBlow

Jean-Marc Eloy’s

I flew with Jean-Marc Eloy at Pan-Am Express in 1988 out of Berlin, Germany. I got the impression way back then that he was kind of a BS artist; this thread doesn't surprise me, nor do the articles which come up when I Googled his name...


Interesting!


Kevin

[sdfcvoh]

Apparently they have filed for Chapter 11. (IATA)

[sdfcvoh]

I think you might be better served going North to the Phoenix area. That's just my $.02

Originally Posted by number_twelve

This is some important info for me, I've been in contact as recently as last week with the Asst. Chief Flight Instructor there about employment. Honestly, I'd love nothing more than to find a place to instruct for in Tucson, but I don't think there's a good place around those parts.

When talking to them on the phone last week, they told me that having a CFI will get me a job offer... I didn't even get far enough to ask about their fleet of Flintstone aged aircraft. I've been hopefully planning on moving to Tucson for about 6 months now and it's looking like I might have to start looking elsewhere.

This is great info to know before I make my final decision about working there, just not the kind of info I WANT to hear! Somebody tell me there is a GOOD school to work for in Tucson, please!!!

[cfii2007]

I agree...check out Oxford at GYR, they are a pretty good place.

Air Safety is hiring alot too, in Glendale.

[number_twelve]

Yeah, I'm thinking about calling them to ask about the chapter 11 thing, just for good times! Phoenix is looking like the place to be, but does anybody know if there is much around Bullhead???

[number_twelve]

Hey guys, I was able to talk to them about this chapter 11 thing. I won't get into detail, but they were locked into contracts with different airlines at set rates, which quickly became unprofitable after the fuel increases, along with a few other things.

At any rate, they will be around, and are reorganizing the business. If you think you want to work for a school in Tucson, these guys are saying they'll be around.

[Douglas]

but your paycheck won't