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Old February 7th, 2008, 14:15   #1
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Default CFI Position in Addison (Dallas) Texas

Monarch Air is currently accepting resumes for open positions. You will be an instructor at the largest flight training facility in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area and provide instruction to Instrument, Private, Commercial, and CFI students. Private and instrument students train primarily in our fleet of new 172SPs. We have several Garmin G-1000 glass cockpit equipped aircraft - Cessna 172SPs, 182s, and a 206. Low time CFIs are accepted. We look for the right attitude in talented instructors, not just flight hours. You must be customer oriented and have high work ethics.
Please fax or email your resume to the following individual:

Monarch Air Addison
Attn: Dick Kirby
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Fax: 972-931-0450
E-mail: dkirby@monarchair.com
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Old February 7th, 2008, 14:45   #2
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Pay used to be pretty low there but I'm not sure what it is now.
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Old February 7th, 2008, 16:31   #3
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Pay rates have recently gone up.
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Old February 7th, 2008, 21:02   #4
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Pay rates have recently gone up.
...to what exactly? Seems like pertinent information
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Old February 7th, 2008, 23:32   #5
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Monthly Billed Hours
Instructor Pay Rate
0 to 30 hours
$16.00 / hour
31 to 50 hours
$19.00 / hour
51 to 70 hours
$20.00 / hour
71 or greater
$22.00 / hour

And it is easy to get a lot of hours at Monarch.
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Old February 10th, 2008, 20:15   #6
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Pay used to be pretty low there but I'm not sure what it is now.
To think these pay rates used to be lower. WOW.
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Old February 10th, 2008, 22:43   #7
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You still have to work the front desk for free.
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Old February 11th, 2008, 00:10   #8
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0 to 30 hours
$16.00 / hour
31 to 50 hours
$19.00 / hour
51 to 70 hours
$20.00 / hour
71 or greater
$22.00 / hour

And it is easy to get a lot of hours at Monarch.
If you work say 100 hours is all 100 hours billed at 22/hr or is the first 30 bille at 16, then the next 20 at 19, and so forth?
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Old February 11th, 2008, 21:57   #9
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If you work say 100 hours is all 100 hours billed at 22/hr or is the first 30 bille at 16, then the next 20 at 19, and so forth?
If you break 71, then all your hours are based on the higher wage.


If you don't bill 60 hours, it's because you didn't want to. 80 is easily in reach.
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Old February 12th, 2008, 08:46   #10
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not the best...
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Old February 12th, 2008, 11:38   #11
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not the best...



Beats not working at all!!

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Beats not working at all!!
If you can't find a good CFI job in the DFW area, you aren't trying.

I've turned away several students since I left Monarch, simply because I don't have the time.

I wasn't real happy at Monarch. The flight school is clearly the low priority of thier operation, and things like paying for checkouts, and working the front desk for free really grated on me.


However, the maintence is top notch, and there is plenty of work there so you can build your hours quickly and move on.
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Old February 12th, 2008, 19:47   #13
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If you can't find a good CFI job in the DFW area, you aren't trying.

I wasn't real happy at Monarch. The flight school is clearly the low priority of their operation, and things like paying for checkouts, and working the front desk for free really grated on me.

However, the maintenance is top notch, and there is plenty of work there so you can build your hours quickly and move on.
Cant disagree at all, but it still beats "would you like fries with that ma'am" at least until something better comes along, and if your paying attention, it will

If they don't pay attention to the trends for CFI pay around the metroplex, they won't get or retain good CFIs and their program will go down the tube maybe then they get a clue, if its not to late.
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Old February 12th, 2008, 22:53   #14
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Raise that rate to at least $25/hr for any amount of instruction and I'll send you a resume in a few months when I move to Dallas.
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Old February 13th, 2008, 02:05   #15
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I'm forced to sit around and answer the phone at my current CFI gig... Thankfully, I'll most likely be moving soon and will be sure to find a place that will pay me decently to instruct, and not make me sit around and not get paid to answer a phone in order to keep my job...

I wouldnt have a problem with it if I were at least paid something to sit there... I take it Monarch still doesnt pay anything to fly the desk?

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I wouldnt have a problem with it if I were at least paid something to sit there... I take it Monarch still doesnt pay anything to fly the desk?
Don't do this to yourself man. Furthurmore you cannot not be forced to work without pay, it's against the law! See the thread in CFI corner (sorry I'm too lazy to find it and link it).
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Old February 15th, 2008, 19:25   #17
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BTW, they are only looking for full-time applicants. I called them about a month back and they said they are only really hiring full-timers.

USMCMech, you care to list some of those flights schools that are hiring CFI-A only?
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Old February 19th, 2008, 20:19   #18
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Monarch is a great place to work...I currently work there and dont have a bad thing to say about the place...All the airplanes are top notch most of the g1000's have under 100 hrs on them. You can fly as many hours as your body will let you. With the new pay scale you can make a good amout of money...Plus your getting FREE flight time instructing...so if your in it for the money...you might wanna change careers. The management staff is great...they are on a very personal level with you making it easy to go to them with any problems. Anyone looking for a cfi job in dallas it is well worth it to drop in and check the place out.
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Monarch is a great place to work...I currently work there and dont have a bad thing to say about the place...All the airplanes are top notch most of the g1000's have under 100 hrs on them. You can fly as many hours as your body will let you. With the new pay scale you can make a good amout of money...Plus your getting FREE flight time instructing...so if your in it for the money...you might wanna change careers. The management staff is great...they are on a very personal level with you making it easy to go to them with any problems. Anyone looking for a cfi job in dallas it is well worth it to drop in and check the place out.

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Monarch is a great place to work...I currently work there and dont have a bad thing to say about the place...All the airplanes are top notch most of the g1000's have under 100 hrs on them. You can fly as many hours as your body will let you. With the new pay scale you can make a good amout of money...Plus your getting FREE flight time instructing...so if your in it for the money...you might wanna change careers. The management staff is great...they are on a very personal level with you making it easy to go to them with any problems. Anyone looking for a cfi job in dallas it is well worth it to drop in and check the place out.
Is the above pay scale accurate? With a -II? Do you still have to work the desk for free? About how many part-timers are there currently? Heard any news about hiring part-time instructors?
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Monarch is a great place to work...I currently work there and dont have a bad thing to say about the place...All the airplanes are top notch most of the g1000's have under 100 hrs on them. You can fly as many hours as your body will let you. With the new pay scale you can make a good amout of money...Plus your getting FREE flight time instructing...so if your in it for the money...you might wanna change careers. The management staff is great...they are on a very personal level with you making it easy to go to them with any problems. Anyone looking for a cfi job in dallas it is well worth it to drop in and check the place out.
Doesn't every single CFI job offer this?
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Monarch was the first (and only) place where I as a CFI had to pay for my own checkouts, and the only place where I was expected to work the front desk for free. Discovery flights were not billiable either.

As a professional, I expect to be properly compensated for my time.

I never had any problem answering phones, selling the school to clients, or discovery flights. I just expect to be paid for such work.



When a company calls me in on my day off to come in and work the desk for no money, even though I told them I was watching my kids that day, I take a little bit of offense.

Especially when that company is owned by a retired airline pilot who has to be worth 7 figures, and I can barely afford to feed my kids.
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I totally agree with you. If CFI's want to do such work for free" have at it" I won't. And the top pay of 22.00 per flight hr. is still too low.Just my measly opinion.
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...Plus your getting FREE flight time instructing...


WOW, free flight time. if this isn't a joke it is the understatement of the year.
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I currently work as a CFI at Monarch and I also did all my training there. I can say without a doubt that the flight school is a great place to work at.

Sure, flying the desk for free sucks as does not getting paid for discovery flights but that is where much of the bad side of things end. Oh, and did I mention they have recently hired a girl to work the desk on weekends? That means that CFIs now only have to work open and close shifts for free which are 7am-9/10am for opening and 5pm-7pm for closing shifts. The rest of your day is now free since during the week the Owner's nephew works the desk as well.

With the latest pay increase making money is very easy. At Monarch we typically bill the entire block for instructor time. So a two hour block you bill as 2 hours for the instructor, then whatever the hobbs time was for the plane. That means that if you fly 5 flights a day at 5 days a week-which is half of what you could fly if you were up for it- you would be billing 50 hours a week. Thats 120 hours a month X $22/hour and you are making $2600 a month.

A full time instructor averages roughly those numbers. I am part time and bill anywhere from 50 to 80 hours a month...PART TIME. And the 2 hour blocks we bill include pre and post flight trainig, so don't think we are talking on our cell phones and watching youtube videos while our students pre-flight and still charging the entire 2 hour block.

You make your own schedule, minus the desk shifts and are free to do basically what you want when it comes to who you fly with and when. Management largely stays out of the day to day flight school operations, which is good since the father/son owners can be a pain in the ass sometimes. However our cheif pilot, Dick Kirby is the best person I have met in the world and is truely looking out for the CFI's best interest.

On top of all that, our MX is world class, our fleet is among the newest in the entire region, we have the largest fleet of G-1000 aircraft and a HUGE student base which keeps us all busy, even more busy than we would like at times. Plus KADS is a class airport with great controllers and Regional Approach directing all inbound traffic. The fact that we are a single runway airport is sometimes bad when traffic is busy, typically on Friday afternoons and evenings, and when the winds are outside the plane's limits keeping us on the ground since there is no intersecting runway.

But other than the few negatives I mentioned above it is all positive at Monarch. I breifly trained and was offered a CFI position with a rather large flight school out of KGKY and let me just say that I am glad I didn't go work out there. Monarch is light years ahead in many ways, and a number of CFIs with experience at that school agree that Monarch is the place to be.

If anybody thinks they are going to be rich as a CFI then you are seriously in denial. But then again if you think that making anywhere from 1200 to over 2000 a month as a CFI is low then by all means show us where you can make more.
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