Cirrus Access Program

[Cirrus Access Manager]

Salary is $30-35,000 a year
You choose where you want to live
100% Paid medical benefits (Premium only), very low deductible
Job could lead to jet/turboprop
Paid training at the Cirrus Factory in Duluth, MN
All expenses while traveling with the client(s) paid

Very unique job opportunity!

Follow link to apply for job...

http://www.cirrusaccess.com/application.aspx

Will be required to upload a resume in a word document and photo of yourself

Minimums
650 TT
250 Dual Given
100 Cross-country
50 Instrument
CFII

[meyers9163]

Originally Posted by Cirrus Access Manager

Salary is $30-35,000 a year
You choose where you want to live
100% Paid medical benefits (Premium only), very low deductible
Job could lead to jet/turboprop
Paid training at the Cirrus Factory in Duluth, MN
All expenses while traveling with the client(s) paid

Very unique job opportunity!

Follow link to apply for job...

http://www.cirrusaccess.com/application.aspx

Will be required to upload a resume in a word document and photo of yourself

Minimums
650 TT
250 Dual Given
100 Cross-country
50 Instrument
CFII

Interesting to say the least! I had the best guy I've ever flown with apply for you guys not too long ago and your management was so lovely they never responded. He finally got ahold of someone and learned the reason he was denied wasnt because he was qualified rather he didnt have "enough" time in an Cirrus. Funny thing is he had over 200 hours in a Cessna 206 which IMO is about the same power. He was far and beyond all yours mins you just published and nothing.

[Andrew_VT]

I think all that "cirrus specific" crap is just that, crap. Heck you dont even get a prop control, it just sits at 2700RPM all day long.

So now that I just ensured that I'll never get hired there, I'll say that this sounds like a good job opportunity for someone looking to avoid the regionals. "choose where you live" "paid bennies" and "possible jet/turboporp time" definitely got my attention.

[ComplexHiAv8r]

Originally Posted by Cirrus Access Manager

You choose where you want to live
All expenses while traveling with the client(s) paid

How do you get to live were you want to when you are to be a personal pilot for the owner of the new Cirrus? How can you be at the beck and call of the owner if you are not living in the area?

[Hootie]

For an entry level job this really sounds good. I'm curious to how this could lead to jet/tprop time though.

[stuckingfk]

Originally Posted by Hootie9750

For an entry level job this really sounds good. I'm curious to how this could lead to jet/tprop time though.

A lot of the owners have $$$ so they upgrade once they realize how much they love having a plane.

[Captain_Bob]

Originally Posted by Hootie9750

For an entry level job this really sounds good. I'm curious to how this could lead to jet/tprop time though.

Here's how:

"the-jet" by cirrus

[Van_Hoolio]

Originally Posted by Cirrus Access Manager

Will be required to upload a resume in a word document and photo of yourself

Why the photo, so you can discriminate against people based on their appearance?

Mike

[Andrew_VT]

Originally Posted by Van_Hoolio

Why the photo, so you can discriminate against people based on their appearance?

Mike

now now, I'm sure it says 'EOE' somewhere on the application...that makes it all better

[roundout]

this is a pretty good entry-level program. depending on where you live, it might be difficult to find an assignment. if you are willing to relocate, it is much easier to start working quickly. i was not willing to relocate and sat in the pool for a few months before bowing out to take another job.

[Old Pete]

Originally Posted by Van_Hoolio

Why the photo, so you can discriminate against people based on their appearance?

Mike

I think that's rather obvious.

Originally Posted by Andrew_VT

now now, I'm sure it says 'EOE' somewhere on the application...that makes it all better

Nothing illegal about discriminating based on appearance. Although, admitting you do it isn't very politically correct.

[stuckingfk]

Originally Posted by Van_Hoolio

Why the photo, so you can discriminate against people based on their appearance?

Mike

Why not?

It's part of the corporate world.

If you're going to be working close with a client for a year, he/she has to not mind looking at you.

[Cirrus Access Manager]

A photo is required because people like to see who they're talking to. The hiring/client interview process involves a series of phone interviews so the picture makes the process more personal by placing a face to the voice.

[Minuteman]

Originally Posted by Hootie9750

For an entry level job this really sounds good. I'm curious to how this could lead to jet/tprop time though.

"the-jet" by cirrus

[meyers9163]

Originally Posted by Cirrus Access Manager

A photo is required because people like to see who they're talking to. The hiring/client interview process involves a series of phone interviews so the picture makes the process more personal by placing a face to the voice.

Is this a legal practice? I was unaware you could actually request a picture in order to see the person you are talking to. In fact that would appear to bring a law suit possibly due to issues such as race, gender, etc in which could easily be taken in many ways.

Perhaps a company like cirrus should really re consider their practice about this. In addition I like the one post wonder. You post once about a job and then again about the position and make an account up out of no where. It just puts Cirrus and your credibility in question. Not going to lie, very questionable.

[meyers9163]

Originally Posted by Van_Hoolio

Why the photo, so you can discriminate against people based on their appearance?

Mike

DING DING DING, race, looks, age, body figure, etc.... Many ways in which discrimination can occur. Very VERY questionable practice by such a company.

[JEP]

not sure how this would be much different than the face to face interview. if they were to use race, gender, or???? as a factor they could do the same with the face to face interview.....a picture won;t really change that.

[killbilly]

Originally Posted by meyers9163

DING DING DING, race, looks, age, body figure, etc.... Many ways in which discrimination can occur. Very VERY questionable practice by such a company.

Meh. Discrimination like this is practiced every single day. Look at Hooter's - think they don't care what the applicant looks like?

Plus, if they do a background check on you they may want the photo for comparison purposes.

I'm not saying Cirrus is right or wrong, I'm just saying that before we begin shrieking about this practice we should consider our own double standards.

We ALL discriminate in some way.

Besides. Only ugly people will have a problem with the photo issue. And who needs them?


(I keed, I keed)

[Old Pete]

Originally Posted by meyers9163

Is this a legal practice? I was unaware you could actually request a picture in order to see the person you are talking to. In fact that would appear to bring a law suit possibly due to issues such as race, gender, etc in which could easily be taken in many ways.

It's legal now, but it will soon be illegal. Because of concerns such as yours, the EEOC will soon be requiring all employers to interview prospective employees behind screens such as when mobsters testify before congress or when a contestant is on the Dating Game.





This new regulation is to insure that people who are appearance challenged are given a fair and equal opportunity for employment. Although this may make job interviews more cumbersome it is believed to be the only way to inhibit the rampant appearance discrimination that is so prevalent today.

Currently the EEOC is working to end the discrimination based on regionalism. In response to appearance discrimination, many companies have turned to telephone interviews. The EEOC has been receiving an increased number of complaints that telephone interviewers have been able to detect regional accents which has led to accusations of discrimination. Please be advised that the EEOC is working diligently to eliminate this and all other forms of discrimination.

[TheFlyingTurkey]

Dang. Somebody posts a job opening and they get slammed. So many bridges are burning it looks like Japan in 1945.

[bLizZuE]

yea this thread was a train wreck, holy crap

[stuckingfk]

Blame in on the naive posters who can't face reality.

[meyers9163]

Originally Posted by JEP

not sure how this would be much different than the face to face interview. if they were to use race, gender, or???? as a factor they could do the same with the face to face interview.....a picture won;t really change that.

You are kidding right? Interview means their application has been reviewed they have been deemed qualified for the position based on their resume and therefore got an interview.

This would be saying well we need to take a look at you in addition to your resume in order to find out if you are qualified for a position. If their resume alone isnt good enough something is wrong..... Now do you see the issue?

[KLB]

Originally Posted by TheFlyingTurkey

Dang. Somebody posts a job opening and they get slammed. So many bridges are burning it looks like Japan in 1945.

I bet you that this is the same way people flamed Southwest and FedEx when they first started out.

[meyers9163]

Originally Posted by KLB

I bet you that this is the same way people flamed Southwest and FedEx when they first started out.

I think the "bashing" which i dont even consider it that, is more so questioning about the nature of the post since it was a very 1st post and by a "Cirrus access manager." In addition to that the photo needed with a resume is a very VERY questionable practice as stated above as to why.