A320 FO -- JetBlue

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FO position(s) posted to their site yesterday.

https://jetblue.recruitmax.com/ENG/c...turnToSearch=1

I sure would like to work for them someday. They seem pretty strict on their requirements.

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From what I can tell, they want you to have 1000 hours in 20,000 pound+ types to apply for a F/O job on the ERJ ... never heard that one before to work on a regional jet.

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They're not hiring into the EMB yet, nobody knows what their reqs for those jobs will be. This post is for A320 FOs.

[Jason]

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From what I can tell, they want you to have 1000 hours in 20,000 pound+ types to apply for a F/O job on the ERJ ... never heard that one before to work on a regional jet.

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Would you consider a DC-9 a 'Regional Jet'????? If I'm not mistaken the first DC-9's had less than 90 seats. I know US Air's DC-9's only had a handful more seats than 90. 20,000 pounds isn't really that big of an airplane - just about the only thing in the airline world that is smaller is the BE1900. Even the Dash 8 is 34,500. What they're really saying is they are looking for people with previous experience in the 121 world or in the bigger corporate equipment. Yeah this post is for A320 FO's but I think that's a prefectly legitimate requirement for ERJ190 FO's as well - the 190 is a pretty good size aircraft - what's wrong with the company seeking people with a little bit of experience???

Jason

[kellwolf]

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. What they're really saying is they are looking for people with previous experience in the 121 world or in the bigger corporate equipment.

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Unless it IS in a B1900, then it doesn't count. Seriously, I know a guy that has the mins and the PIC in a B1900, and JetBlue told him it wouldn't count since it didn't meet the weight reqs......

[jonnyb]

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Unless it IS in a B1900, then it doesn't count. Seriously, I know a guy that has the mins and the PIC in a B1900, and JetBlue told him it wouldn't count since it didn't meet the weight reqs......

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Look at the market right now. Saturated with very experienced pilots with LOTS of jet time. JET time in JETS that weigh well over 20K lbs. I think part of what their (jetblue) getting at, is they want someone with some "larger" JET time. Make sense? Hope this helps.

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I could be wrong but would this be the first regional that requires time at all (let alone 1000 hours minimum) in 20,000 pound+ aircraft to apply? I know that they haven't officially recategorized their soon to be delivered RJ fleet into a independent regional airline but it seems to me that this will be a first.

[Jason]

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I could be wrong but would this be the first regional that requires time at all (let alone 1000 hours minimum) in 20,000 pound+ aircraft to apply? I know that they haven't officially recategorized their soon to be delivered RJ fleet into a independent regional airline but it seems to me that this will be a first.

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JetBlue is not a regional airline. It is in fact, based on revenue, now a major airline.

Jason

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I could be wrong but would this be the first regional that requires time at all (let alone 1000 hours minimum) in 20,000 pound+ aircraft to apply? I know that they haven't officially recategorized their soon to be delivered RJ fleet into a independent regional airline but it seems to me that this will be a first.

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JetBlue is not a regional airline. It is in fact, based on revenue, now a major airline.

Jason

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Read my post closer ... I never said JetBlue was a regional airline. I'm talking about the RJ's once they take delivery of them. Whether the RJ's and the Airbus fleet will remain together under the JetBlue umbrella or whether they will create a separate entity for the RJ's that will keep their financials apart from their mainline Airbus fleet is what I'm talking about. My point is that I don't think there are any airline jobs in the US where the pilots applying to fly a regional jet must have 1000 hours of time in aircraft weighing 20,000+ pounds.

[jonnyb]

Your post IS understood. However, this is the fact right now. Nothing has been said at all about the RJ hiring requirements. I believe you're right, we'll have to wait and see how they are going to structure things when the EMB's come on line. So for now, this applies..... [ QUOTE ]
This post is for A320 FOs.

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I could be wrong but would this be the first regional that requires time at all...

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Yes you did say Jetblue is a regional.

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I could be wrong but would this be the first regional that requires time at all ..... I know that they haven't officially recategorized their soon to be delivered RJ fleet into a independent regional airline ....

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Yes you did say Jetblue is a regional.

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Give me a break dude and learn to read the entire post. I said they "would" be the first regional (not they "are" the first regional) as in if they recategorized their RJ fleet into a separate regional airline, they'd be the first to require time like that. I think I've beaten this dead horse enough.

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I could be wrong but would this be the first regional that requires time at all ..... I know that they haven't officially recategorized their soon to be delivered RJ fleet into a independent regional airline ....

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Yes you did say Jetblue is a regional.

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Give me a break dude and learn to read the entire post. I said they "would" be the first regional (not they "are" the first regional) as in if they recategorized their RJ fleet into a separate regional airline, they'd be the first to require time like that. I think I've beaten this dead horse enough.

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Just pulling your strings ( or is it legs?).

[Propilot]

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I could be wrong but would this be the first regional that requires time at all ..... I know that they haven't officially recategorized their soon to be delivered RJ fleet into a independent regional airline ....

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Yes you did say Jetblue is a regional.

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Give me a break dude and learn to read the entire post. I said they "would" be the first regional (not they "are" the first regional) as in if they recategorized their RJ fleet into a separate regional airline, they'd be the first to require time like that. I think I've beaten this dead horse enough.

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Not uh! Loyd LOYD LOYD!!!

[mtsu_av8er]

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Not uh! Loyd LOYD LOYD!!!

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A dead horse is never too beaten.....

[I_Money]

Being a start up their insurance rates are quite high - therefore they hire experienced crews so the rates do not go through the roof.

[Vingus]

Are you sure this is the reason for the steep requirements? I bet this 20,000 lb thing pisses off the fighter guys.

[jonnyb]

MikeD can verify but I'm pretty sure MOST fighters weigh well over 20Klbs.

[BCTAv8r]

This is seriously my dream job in the airlines. My top airline goal is to make Jetblue A320 Capt.

[RABIRZA69]

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They're not hiring into the EMB yet, nobody knows what their reqs for those jobs will be. This post is for A320 FOs.

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from what i understand from my inside sources the hiring mins are going to be lower not dramatically but definately lower. not low enough where a cfi can pop in a resume but low enough.

to answer the other question B6 will not be creating a separate entity for its RJ's to protect the A320's the RJ's are being implented to pretty much connect the dots.

[kellwolf]

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for its RJ's to protect the A320's the RJ's are being implented to pretty much connect the dots.


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Not to nitpick, but why are people referring to the 190 as an RJ? Just b/c it's made my Embraer? Might as well call the B717 and DC-9 (yeah, I know same thing) an RJ. jetBlue's lack of low minimums on the airframe just reinforces that idea.

[Bigey]

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for its RJ's to protect the A320's the RJ's are being implented to pretty much connect the dots.


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Not to nitpick, but why are people referring to the 190 as an RJ? Just b/c it's made my Embraer? Might as well call the B717 and DC-9 (yeah, I know same thing) an RJ. jetBlue's lack of low minimums on the airframe just reinforces that idea.

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Because from my understanding, its included in its name? I thought ERJ always standed for Embraer Regional Jet, hence the RJ referal. Thats just my understanding though, it was specifically classified as an RJ. Boeing and Airbus and such, just wanted to fill the space in for the 100 passenger area? Someone correct me, if im wrong!?

[jonnyb]

The 170, 190 and 195 are not ERJ's. They're not called that, don't think they ever were. They are identified as EMB-170, EMB-190 and EMB-195. EMB standing for Embraer, the manufacturer.

[BCTAv8r]

Embraer standing for Empresa Brasileira Aeronautica