Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex.

Windchill · November 22nd, 2004, 22:23

Aero-Tech in KY (Lexington, Louisville) is hiring CFIs.

Aero-Tech Job Opportunities

What does this have to do with sex. Well this company is pretty extensive regarding it's scenic flights. From the traditional discovery flight to the scattering ashes flight to flights providing couples with the opportunity to join the mile high club.

Mile High Club

Read the press release below the description.

[ QUOTE ]
Aero-Tech, a Kentucky-based company that has operated a Mile-High service for 30 years. The company uses a single-engine Cessna with a two-seat cabin that hasn't been altered at all. "You have the same amount of room as in the back seat of a car ...."

[/ QUOTE ]

Sprint100 · November 22nd, 2004, 22:58

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GatorFC · November 22nd, 2004, 23:07

Yeah, an FBO in New Orleans offers the same thing.

I would imagine there are others around the country as well. They gotta find creative ways to make money other than the usual flight lessons and sightseeing.

jdflight · November 23rd, 2004, 02:40

Imagine the constant CG shift going on!

Hollywood · November 23rd, 2004, 07:53

[ QUOTE ]
Imagine the constant CG shift going on!

[/ QUOTE ]

only for a few seconds.

aviategw · November 25th, 2004, 08:59

Okay, this sounds kinda amusing, but, more often than not, disgusting. Really now, I'm certainly no Tom Cruise, but I think that watching the average couple have sex would be pretty far from entertaining. Let's face it folks, the 'average' person simply isn't too attractive.

This isn't something that I'd want to log, either. "Sooo, applicant, tell me what you learned from the these 300 hours of 'Mile High Club' flights?"

(Halfway jokingly) Wouldn't these flights be governed by part 135?

GregCollins2 · November 25th, 2004, 10:42

Have to agree with AviateGW, this is kind of tacky and inappropriate. The fact that a well known, and supposedly highly professional school, like Aero-Tech, provides these kinds of flights is disheartening.
Anything to make a buck I suppose. I don't think I'd want to put my family in the back of that airplane for the next flight!

Propilot · November 25th, 2004, 18:56

tack in inapropriate? please.

God i get so sick of people butting in on what other people do. It doesnt hurt you. It doesnt hurt anyone. And dont come back with some loose statement about how it makes the aviation community look.

There is aboslutely nothing wrong with someone wanting to have sex at 5,000ft. I think its awesome. let them have their fun. If you dont want any part of it, then go about your way and forget about it.

anything to make a buck? more like anything to voice an opinoin on.

kellwolf · November 25th, 2004, 18:59

While it MIGHT be tacky and inaproriate, you still have to make money. If there's a market for it, then it shouldn't just be thrown to the wayside. Especially in the aviation industry where it's hard enough to make a buck. Even Virgin Atlantic is putting beds in first class to take advantage of people willing to pay extra to joing the mile high club. Put a curtain in the back of the 172, and it's probably got MORE space than one of their seats......

GregCollins2 · November 25th, 2004, 19:06

I'm sorry you don't agree, but I stand by my post. I'm hardly a prude and I don't really care what people chose to do, it's the fact that a respectable school is offering the service that bothers me. Arlynn McMahon is a senior NAFI Master Instructor and one of the top advisors to NAFI Mentor. She is well known throughout the industry, and as such should be setting a high standard of professionalism. Flying around in an aircraft two feet away from strangers having sex is hardly setting a high standard. I'd feel the same way if it were Flight Safety or ERAU.

stuckingfk · November 25th, 2004, 19:47

[ QUOTE ]
I'm sorry you don't agree, but I stand by my post. I'm hardly a prude and I don't really care what people chose to do, it's the fact that a respectable school is offering the service that bothers me. Arlynn McMahon is a senior NAFI Master Instructor and one of the top advisors to NAFI Mentor. She is well known throughout the industry, and as such should be setting a high standard of professionalism. Flying around in an aircraft two feet away from strangers having sex is hardly setting a high standard. I'd feel the same way if it were Flight Safety or ERAU.

[/ QUOTE ]

You are here because of sex....

And least she is providing a safe alternative to joining the MHC. Did you hear about the accident where a pilot and his passenger crashed and DIED while trying to join (well maybe they did, just didn't pay attention during).

Just think of this operation as a taxi cab......A taxi provides drinkers a safe ride home rather than driving. Stupid analogy I know, but it is somewhat related.

mtsu_av8er · November 26th, 2004, 00:33

Hardly tacky. I give them props for offering the service.

stuckingfk · November 26th, 2004, 00:37

[ QUOTE ]
Hardly tacky. I give them props for offering the service.

[/ QUOTE ]

My thoughts exactly

JaceTheAce · November 26th, 2004, 15:59

I think that's a great idea. Some people in this country are way behind the times. Sex is good and healthy!

If this was posted in a European-based message board, there would be no objections.

mtsu_av8er · November 26th, 2004, 16:42

You're right, Jace.

kellwolf · November 26th, 2004, 20:57

[ QUOTE ]
If this was posted in a European-based message board, there would be no objections.

[/ QUOTE ]

You're right. In fact, there might even be a body lotion banner ad off to the side offering more of a view than US ads.....

aviategw · November 27th, 2004, 18:32

I've no moral, pretentious objection to taking people up to get their rocks off, as long as there is a buck in it for me, and hours to put in the logbook. If it is a legal service that people are willing to pay for, and I am capable of providing that service, i.e. my skills as a pilot, I'm all for it.

My point is that it is GROSS. I would have to use my foggles to block my view from the inside of the cabin so that I could only see outside.

I think that as guys, we think of sexual situations in images that are more akin to Miss (insert month here) as opposed to reality. Reality is that average people, both men and women, are not as attractive as the media would have us to believe. As the PIC of these flights, I certainly wouldn't be given the choice of passengers/customers.

Again, showing some ignorance of the regs, but shouldn't these flights be flown under part 135? It sounds like a charter to me...

mtsu_av8er · November 27th, 2004, 20:04

[ QUOTE ]

Again, showing some ignorance of the regs, but shouldn't these flights be flown under part 135? It sounds like a charter to me...

[/ QUOTE ]

If you don't fly more than 50 miles from the departure airport and you don't land at any other airport besides the departure airport, it's a "sightseeing flight".

GregCollins2 · November 27th, 2004, 20:45

I guess I'm behind the times, but I'm happy there!
Sightseeing flights have to stay within 25 nm of the departure airport. Technically, if you advertise in any way to provide sightseeing flights, or flights within 25nm of the departure airport for purposes other than flight instruction, the operation must comply with a couple of the 135 Regs that deal with random drug and alcohol testing of the pilots.
Are you doing "MIle High Club" flights at Wings of Eagles yet Lloyd??? I think I'd have a tough time selling the idea to our Chief Pilot.

mtsu_av8er · November 27th, 2004, 21:49

[ QUOTE ]

Are you doing "MIle High Club" flights at Wings of Eagles yet Lloyd??? I think I'd have a tough time selling the idea to our Chief Pilot.

[/ QUOTE ]

We don't really offer them much...definately don't advertise them (our chief pilot is far too conservative to offer such a thing). As a representative of the flight school therefore, I can't offer these types of flights.

Now, if a person wants a "discovery flight", well, we can work anything out....

There's already somebody offering these flights in Nashville, though....he stays busy!!

FO_SHIZZLE · November 30th, 2004, 01:40

Sure beats Radio Disney for entertainment

kellwolf · November 30th, 2004, 02:32

Ah yes. The only true use for an ADF in Orlando.....

GregCollins2 · November 30th, 2004, 12:19

Another good use for the ADF in Orlando - We used to shoot the NDB approach to 15 at Kissimmee as an excuse to fly over Disney and Epicot during the evening parade and fireworks.

kellwolf · December 1st, 2004, 14:33

I was fancy. I requested the GPS into Kissimmee to get that view.

coldsolderjoint · December 1st, 2004, 23:25

heh, id hate to have to clean the plane up afterwards, and well im flying.. there better not be "anything" flying up to the front....

hehe, rear view mirror for "traffic avoidance"

hey, i turned the landing light on!!

November 22nd, 2004, 22:23	#1
Windchill Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-Atlantic, KMRB Posts: 1,953	Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. Aero-Tech in KY (Lexington, Louisville) is hiring CFIs. Aero-Tech Job Opportunities What does this have to do with sex. Well this company is pretty extensive regarding it's scenic flights. From the traditional discovery flight to the scattering ashes flight to flights providing couples with the opportunity to join the mile high club. Mile High Club Read the press release below the description. [ QUOTE ] Aero-Tech, a Kentucky-based company that has operated a Mile-High service for 30 years. The company uses a single-engine Cessna with a two-seat cabin that hasn't been altered at all. "You have the same amount of room as in the back seat of a car ...." [/ QUOTE ]

November 22nd, 2004, 22:58	#2
Sprint100 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In my Cozy garage Posts: 7,876	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

November 22nd, 2004, 23:07	#3
GatorFC Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: da' Bayou Posts: 1,823	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. Yeah, an FBO in New Orleans offers the same thing. I would imagine there are others around the country as well. They gotta find creative ways to make money other than the usual flight lessons and sightseeing.

November 23rd, 2004, 02:40	#4
jdflight Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Boulder, CO (anywhere but Fresno) Posts: 1,498	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. Imagine the constant CG shift going on!

November 23rd, 2004, 07:53	#5
Hollywood Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: florida Posts: 286	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. [ QUOTE ] Imagine the constant CG shift going on! [/ QUOTE ] only for a few seconds.

November 25th, 2004, 08:59	#6
aviategw Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 291	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. Okay, this sounds kinda amusing, but, more often than not, disgusting. Really now, I'm certainly no Tom Cruise, but I think that watching the average couple have sex would be pretty far from entertaining. Let's face it folks, the 'average' person simply isn't too attractive. This isn't something that I'd want to log, either. "Sooo, applicant, tell me what you learned from the these 300 hours of 'Mile High Club' flights?" (Halfway jokingly) Wouldn't these flights be governed by part 135?

November 25th, 2004, 10:42	#7
GregCollins2 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hendersonville, NC Posts: 289	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. Have to agree with AviateGW, this is kind of tacky and inappropriate. The fact that a well known, and supposedly highly professional school, like Aero-Tech, provides these kinds of flights is disheartening. Anything to make a buck I suppose. I don't think I'd want to put my family in the back of that airplane for the next flight!

November 25th, 2004, 18:56	#8
Propilot Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 451	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. tack in inapropriate? please. God i get so sick of people butting in on what other people do. It doesnt hurt you. It doesnt hurt anyone. And dont come back with some loose statement about how it makes the aviation community look. There is aboslutely nothing wrong with someone wanting to have sex at 5,000ft. I think its awesome. let them have their fun. If you dont want any part of it, then go about your way and forget about it. anything to make a buck? more like anything to voice an opinoin on.

November 25th, 2004, 18:59	#9
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 18,969	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. While it MIGHT be tacky and inaproriate, you still have to make money. If there's a market for it, then it shouldn't just be thrown to the wayside. Especially in the aviation industry where it's hard enough to make a buck. Even Virgin Atlantic is putting beds in first class to take advantage of people willing to pay extra to joing the mile high club. Put a curtain in the back of the 172, and it's probably got MORE space than one of their seats......

November 25th, 2004, 19:06	#10
GregCollins2 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hendersonville, NC Posts: 289	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. I'm sorry you don't agree, but I stand by my post. I'm hardly a prude and I don't really care what people chose to do, it's the fact that a respectable school is offering the service that bothers me. Arlynn McMahon is a senior NAFI Master Instructor and one of the top advisors to NAFI Mentor. She is well known throughout the industry, and as such should be setting a high standard of professionalism. Flying around in an aircraft two feet away from strangers having sex is hardly setting a high standard. I'd feel the same way if it were Flight Safety or ERAU.

November 25th, 2004, 19:47	#11
stuckingfk Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: El Forko Grande Posts: 2,884	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. [ QUOTE ] I'm sorry you don't agree, but I stand by my post. I'm hardly a prude and I don't really care what people chose to do, it's the fact that a respectable school is offering the service that bothers me. Arlynn McMahon is a senior NAFI Master Instructor and one of the top advisors to NAFI Mentor. She is well known throughout the industry, and as such should be setting a high standard of professionalism. Flying around in an aircraft two feet away from strangers having sex is hardly setting a high standard. I'd feel the same way if it were Flight Safety or ERAU. [/ QUOTE ] You are here because of sex.... And least she is providing a safe alternative to joining the MHC. Did you hear about the accident where a pilot and his passenger crashed and DIED while trying to join (well maybe they did, just didn't pay attention during). Just think of this operation as a taxi cab......A taxi provides drinkers a safe ride home rather than driving. Stupid analogy I know, but it is somewhat related.

November 26th, 2004, 00:33	#12
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Bach's Arco Pitcairn Posts: 13,484	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. Hardly tacky. I give them props for offering the service.

November 26th, 2004, 00:37	#13
stuckingfk Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: El Forko Grande Posts: 2,884	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. [ QUOTE ] Hardly tacky. I give them props for offering the service. [/ QUOTE ] My thoughts exactly

November 26th, 2004, 15:59	#14
JaceTheAce Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On my couch Posts: 8,423	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. I think that's a great idea. Some people in this country are way behind the times. Sex is good and healthy! If this was posted in a European-based message board, there would be no objections.

November 26th, 2004, 16:42	#15
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Bach's Arco Pitcairn Posts: 13,484	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. You're right, Jace.

November 26th, 2004, 20:57	#16
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 18,969	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. [ QUOTE ] If this was posted in a European-based message board, there would be no objections. [/ QUOTE ] You're right. In fact, there might even be a body lotion banner ad off to the side offering more of a view than US ads.....

November 27th, 2004, 18:32	#17
aviategw Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 291	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. I've no moral, pretentious objection to taking people up to get their rocks off, as long as there is a buck in it for me, and hours to put in the logbook. If it is a legal service that people are willing to pay for, and I am capable of providing that service, i.e. my skills as a pilot, I'm all for it. My point is that it is GROSS. I would have to use my foggles to block my view from the inside of the cabin so that I could only see outside. I think that as guys, we think of sexual situations in images that are more akin to Miss (insert month here) as opposed to reality. Reality is that average people, both men and women, are not as attractive as the media would have us to believe. As the PIC of these flights, I certainly wouldn't be given the choice of passengers/customers. Again, showing some ignorance of the regs, but shouldn't these flights be flown under part 135? It sounds like a charter to me...

November 27th, 2004, 20:04	#18
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Bach's Arco Pitcairn Posts: 13,484	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. [ QUOTE ] Again, showing some ignorance of the regs, but shouldn't these flights be flown under part 135? It sounds like a charter to me... [/ QUOTE ] If you don't fly more than 50 miles from the departure airport and you don't land at any other airport besides the departure airport, it's a "sightseeing flight".

November 27th, 2004, 20:45	#19
GregCollins2 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hendersonville, NC Posts: 289	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. I guess I'm behind the times, but I'm happy there! Sightseeing flights have to stay within 25 nm of the departure airport. Technically, if you advertise in any way to provide sightseeing flights, or flights within 25nm of the departure airport for purposes other than flight instruction, the operation must comply with a couple of the 135 Regs that deal with random drug and alcohol testing of the pilots. Are you doing "MIle High Club" flights at Wings of Eagles yet Lloyd??? I think I'd have a tough time selling the idea to our Chief Pilot.

November 27th, 2004, 21:49	#20
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Bach's Arco Pitcairn Posts: 13,484	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. [ QUOTE ] Are you doing "MIle High Club" flights at Wings of Eagles yet Lloyd??? I think I'd have a tough time selling the idea to our Chief Pilot. [/ QUOTE ] We don't really offer them much...definately don't advertise them (our chief pilot is far too conservative to offer such a thing). As a representative of the flight school therefore, I can't offer these types of flights. Now, if a person wants a "discovery flight", well, we can work anything out.... There's already somebody offering these flights in Nashville, though....he stays busy!!

November 30th, 2004, 01:40	#21
FO_SHIZZLE Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: CLT Posts: 199	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. Sure beats Radio Disney for entertainment

November 30th, 2004, 02:32	#22
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 18,969	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. Ah yes. The only true use for an ADF in Orlando.....

November 30th, 2004, 12:19	#23
GregCollins2 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Hendersonville, NC Posts: 289	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. Another good use for the ADF in Orlando - We used to shoot the NDB approach to 15 at Kissimmee as an excuse to fly over Disney and Epicot during the evening parade and fireworks.

December 1st, 2004, 14:33	#24
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 18,969	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. I was fancy. I requested the GPS into Kissimmee to get that view.

December 1st, 2004, 23:25	#25
coldsolderjoint Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 33	Re: Get paid to listen, maybe see others have sex. heh, id hate to have to clean the plane up afterwards, and well im flying.. there better not be "anything" flying up to the front.... hehe, rear view mirror for "traffic avoidance" hey, i turned the landing light on!!

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