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Old February 20th, 2009, 13:11   #1
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Do employers use Flight Aware to verify flights in your logbook?
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Old February 20th, 2009, 13:44   #2
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Do employers use Flight Aware to verify flights in your logbook?
Who would have that kind of time?
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Old February 20th, 2009, 13:49   #3
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Default Re: Do employers use flightaware to verify flights in logboo

Plus, VFR flights don't show up.
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Old February 20th, 2009, 15:27   #4
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Default Re: Do employers use flightaware to verify flights in logboo

Some VFR flights do show up if you are getting flight following.

I cant imagine how useful using it would be, but I suppose a blatant wrongful entry could be caught.
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Old February 20th, 2009, 16:01   #5
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Some VFR flights do show up if you are getting flight following.

I cant imagine how useful using it would be, but I suppose a blatant wrongful entry could be caught.
Not really since I have waited 30 mins to depart before and all that taxi time is part of the block to block time.
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Old February 20th, 2009, 16:17   #6
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Default Re: Do employers use flightaware to verify flights in logboo

I was thinking more along the lines of logging flights to different places or total falsification of entries. Not just an extra few tenths.
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Old February 20th, 2009, 19:48   #7
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Default Re: Do employers use flightaware to verify flights in logboo

AG3FLy- you asked this in another thread also. Whats the catch??
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Old February 20th, 2009, 20:13   #8
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Do employers use Flight Aware to verify flights in your logbook?
For real?
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Old February 20th, 2009, 20:37   #9
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Default Re: Do employers use flightaware to verify flights in logboo

It's an interesting question. I'm thinking that if one's logbook is legit it really doesn't much matter either way though, does it?
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Old February 20th, 2009, 22:43   #10
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AG3FLy- you asked this in another thread also. Whats the catch??
I just wasn't sure where to post it. No catch. Ive only applied for one job and I've been at it for over a year. I'm not sure how the hiring process really goes. A new super (that knows nothing about aviation) was hired at my place of employment and brought up the subject, so I figured Id post the question.
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Old February 21st, 2009, 09:21   #11
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No, no and no. Most 121 recruiting ops assume that a very small percentage of everyones flight time is in error or BS.
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Old February 21st, 2009, 12:27   #12
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Do employers use Flight Aware to verify flights in your logbook?
If your flights are VFR it really would nto matter. Flightaware only tracks IFR Fights for the most part.
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Old February 21st, 2009, 16:30   #13
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No, at least I wouldn't think so. That would take entirely way too much time.Having said that, you should still keep your logbook straight.
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Old February 21st, 2009, 16:31   #14
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Prison time and up to $250,000 in fines if you get caught. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 05:01   #15
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Most 121 recruiting ops assume that a very small percentage of everyones flight time is in error or BS.


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Prison time and up to $250,000 in fines if you get caught. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
Only if you include the time on an 8710. Otherwise, you're probably only committing insurance fraud.
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No, no and no. Most 121 recruiting ops assume that a very small percentage of everyones flight time is in error or BS.
Why is that funny?

I can understand your reaction toward the "BS" part of that comment, but so far as errors in the logbooks, I have read in numerous places about questions in interviews about if the applicant thinks his/her logbook is 100% correct.

Apparently the gist of the ensuing conversation at the interview is that most peoples' logbooks have some error, somewhere....that a 100% correct logbook, especially at the time/experience level that people are applying for Part 121 flying, is unrealistic. There is usually something missed somewhere.

Again, I think you are correct that 121 agencies don't assume that their applicants have falsified time in their books...but I think they DO assume that there will be little errors here and there.
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Just laughing at the BS part.
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Flightaware would be useless unless you're loogbook shows something like 60hrs of ME time in the past week. Flightaware only goes back 3 or 4 days I think.
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I would almost hope they did, because there is a lot of BS in some logs.
How would it ever be possible to prove that, though?
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I sit corrected.
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The thing is all it takes is a call or message to them and you can have your tail number 'disappear' if you will. Many of the Fortune 500 companies or any company a/c will be 'unavailable' at the request of the owner.
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I doubt it.

If there's a question at all if you've got "Parker P-51 Time", they're not going to spend an inordinate amount of time to research it, they're not going to offer you a job.

Also, on the topic, most HR reps that deal with pilots are on a first name basis too!
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The thing is all it takes is a call or message to them and you can have your tail number 'disappear' if you will. Many of the Fortune 500 companies or any company a/c will be 'unavailable' at the request of the owner.
Why is that? I know it's true and all, but what does it really matter?
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Why is that? I know it's true and all, but what does it really matter?
A million reasons, but most of them come down to not wanting others to be "all up in their business".
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