Colgan Interview Questions - Page 2

FlyingNole · July 6th, 2006, 16:11

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Originally Posted by bumblebee

Plumber, backhoe operator, Contractor, Electrician, and the beat goes on . . .

A contractor is NOT blue collar....Maybe a crappy one. And find me a plumber/electrician that makes 80K that doesnt own a multi-employee company or something to that affect.

USMC-SGT · July 6th, 2006, 16:46

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Originally Posted by FlyingNole

A contractor is NOT blue collar....Maybe a crappy one. And find me a plumber/electrician that makes 80K that doesnt own a multi-employee company or something to that affect.

A general contractor is certainly blue collar, maybe the CEO of a very large contractor company is white collar, but even then you will typically find that the CEO's of the larger contractor companies started out as just general contractors and framers.

an electrician makes well over 30/hour after he passes all of his test and goes through his journeymen phase. And that is working for someone not owning the company, the same applies to plumbers, those are two GREAT paying jobs and will always be in high demand.

Bumblebee · July 6th, 2006, 19:46

My neighbor Joe said that even though he wasn't a white collar executive (being a skilled Flight Engineer and First Officer with over 15000 hours in the 727 for Pan AM) that his job was certainly better than working for a living. (crawling through attics, dusty backhoe, we all know what kind of ____ a plumber deals with . . .

meritflyer · July 7th, 2006, 10:46

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Originally Posted by FlyingNole

A contractor is NOT blue collar....Maybe a crappy one. And find me a plumber/electrician that makes 80K that doesnt own a multi-employee company or something to that affect.

Sorry to burst your bubble but a General Contractor is as blue collar as they come. I have a brother who is a GC and he'll tell you his collar is as blue as they come.

FlyingNole · July 7th, 2006, 14:41

Well not the ones I know...In fact one is neighbors with Dan Marino....

BrianNC · July 7th, 2006, 16:25

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Originally Posted by FlyingNole

Well not the ones I know...In fact one is neighbors with Dan Marino....

Technically speaking, it is still a blue collar profession regardless of how much one may make.

meritflyer · July 7th, 2006, 17:00

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Originally Posted by FlyingNole

Ok, everyone makes the "so and so makes more than an airline pilot his first year." That may be the case, but a 7-11 manager will never have the days off, bennies, and chance to make good money in his "career" at 7-11

Yeah, a 7-11 manager enjoys full medical, dental, and insurance, paid vacation and sick days, salary with bonus incentives, and oh yeah.. a stable job. You are also able to upgrade to a district manager which increases salary, gets you a company car, and offers tuition reimbursement. Do any airlines do that for their pilots? I dont think so.

Oh yeah, 7-11 also requires a bachelor degree as well to be a manager.

FlyingNole · July 7th, 2006, 19:39

Ya but you run a 7-11

Theotokos · July 7th, 2006, 20:38

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Originally Posted by BaylorPilot

So your saying that I cant wear my green suit and my yellow tie? Looks like i might have to be making a trip to wall mart for a new one.

Avoid Wal-Mart. You want somthing decently tailored. It by not means has to be Gucci, Armani or D&G, but Wal Mart is a no-no. Here is a decnetly priced one that may well be worth the money. A man should always own a good suit.

http://www.yoox.com/item.asp?rr=1&co...1992C&areaid=8

If that is too high a price, then at least stick to your mall retailers. Sam Walton is to be avoided. Maybe that is just me. I refuse to wear clothes bought at Wal-Mart. I would rather pay good money for designer clothes than somthing by Sam Walton. Walton's stuff never walked the runways of Milan or New York.

And it is low quality and does not fit well, which looks bad in an interview. When you are a kid, that is fine. But for an interview a suit should fit well, the shirt sleeves extending about half an inch out of the sleeve of the jackt, and fitting well in the shoulders. And get a good pair of shoes. Shoes complete the ensemble. Like Doug says, they will not know if you are wearing Armani or not. But they may look negatively upon a man who does not have proper fitting clothes.

CaptainChris87 · July 7th, 2006, 21:56

why must people share their actual salaries in which airline they fly for. that will only bring our reputation down. why not keep and maintain the old prestigous perception of an airline pilot.

meritflyer · July 7th, 2006, 23:24

Because its not true. Maybe if the public knows what crap wages are paid, they would think twice about flying for good. After all, who wants a low-salary pilot at the wheel. I think the public would like to see highly trained and PAID pilots at the controls.

meritflyer · July 7th, 2006, 23:25

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Originally Posted by FlyingNole

Ya but you run a 7-11

True... True...

CFIse · July 8th, 2006, 09:34

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Originally Posted by meritflyer

Because its not true. Maybe if the public knows what crap wages are paid, they would think twice about flying for good. After all, who wants a low-salary pilot at the wheel. I think the public would like to see highly trained and PAID pilots at the controls.

It's nice to think that, but it's not true. In fact if the airline industry got together and told the public that if they could cut their pilot's salaries by just $0.50 an hour they could save $5 on the price of a ticket the uproar to go ahead and do it would be deafening.....

meritflyer · July 8th, 2006, 13:50

Yeah, you are actually right... Cheap people..

Hootie · September 9th, 2006, 19:52

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Originally Posted by BrettInLJ

Yep, you need to wear a suit. But, btw, pilots are looked at as blue collar workers believe it or not.

Agreed, pilots are blue collar. Also you can make a lot more a lot faster being blue collar and halfway smart at Boeing, Intel, Crab Fisherman. Only you dont get to fly and you dont get to wear a monkey suit.

Hootie · September 9th, 2006, 20:13

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Originally Posted by CFIse

It's nice to think that, but it's not true. In fact if the airline industry got together and told the public that if they could cut their pilot's salaries by just $0.50 an hour they could save $5 on the price of a ticket the uproar to go ahead and do it would be deafening.....

There has to be a bottom to it though. Once they start paying sixty grand to 747 captains, either nobody will do it or they will have to find highly inexperienced people to do it. Once crashes start making some noise people will either stop flying or pay up for safe travel. Pilot salaries were super high
pre-deregulation because that was what benefited the the company (read up on history). Salaries will slowly trickle down (as they have been) but will still have to be in the six figures (for safety). As for entry level wages being low and the same the past 10 years, that is true in any industry. Wages aren't keeping up with inflation and that is just business, political, and economic cycles. Hopefully UND, ERAU, ATP, MPD, RAA, ETC. will lose enrollment as the truth of this career gets out and we could see some reduction of output of regional cult kids. Until then its supply and demand at the entry level.

MCP · September 11th, 2006, 04:24

I made more than a first year F.O. while I was a part-time sales guy at CompUSA about 5 years ago (would retail-hourly considered blue collar or white collar?). But that was sales, and commisions were a lot higher then. Now the higher commissions scale is gone and is much lower in comparison. I guess CompUSA finally decided they didn't want to fit the bill for that any longer. LOL

Of course, working at CompUSA isn't nearly as much fun as flying though.