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pilotkppsg · January 24th, 2006, 14:31

Ok, paperwork is a must. You've really gotta be meticulous w/ the paperwork, they look at that pretty hard. Ok, that said if you currently use NOS charts, STOP and use Jepps because that is what you will be quizzed on. Don't take this lightly, Jepps is a huge part of this interview, know them and that'll be at least 25 % of the battle (paperwork is like 50%). Now, I know most of the guys in the morning group didn't get hired, my friends told me that they were weak on Jepps and aircraft systems. In my afternoon group I know about 9 out of 13 got the job, don't know about the others. Most of us were instructors, a 135er here and there and that was it. As for the ATP instructors who did the CRJ course, some of them didn't get it also, so the previous poster is full of ##### about that one. You've gotta have a humble attitude and drop the cocky CFI attitude if you've got one. They don't give a rat's dick if you can fly a Seminole up God's ass, they want to know if you're not a toolbox ######bag who they can both train and fly with on a month long trip. Alright, all that said, I was asked a few situation questions directly from the gouge, bunch of Jepp symbols, speeds, holding info, aircraft systems from the biggest multi i'd flown (I imagine they hear Seminole crap all day), then what I had done to prepare for the interview and had I read the gouge. I was then asked what I had done to prepare myself from flying pudknocker pistons to prepare myself to handle an ERJ and what would my biggest obstacle be in training. HR wasn't tough at all, decode a METAR and a TAF (lots of unusual symbols on this, so read the FAA publication and review all symbols in METAR/TAF format) then the ILS into IAH w/ no IAF. The IAF is the GS intercept and that is also the FAF. Asked any busted checkrides, accidents, incidents, speeding tickets. Told to chill outside and got the offer in like 5 minutes. Orientation in Nov and class in Dec.

pilotkppsg · January 24th, 2006, 14:32

Showed up to F.S. on day 1 at 2 p.m. There were a total of 5 applicants. The sim instructor briefly went over our logbooks and gave us some instructions for the sim. Make sure to pay attention to every detail during the briefing. The sim was set up for Albany GA, and the profile is just like the one posted previously. During the ride I've made some mistakes, such as a full scale deflection on the glideslope, but always announced my mistake and just kept flying. I briefed the takeoff, the hold, and the approach to my partner, and tried to use as many standard call outs as possible. I believe they're not only looking at flying skills, but also at crew coordination. Called the phone number that evening, and made the cut. 1 person out of the five didn't make it. Went out to dinner that evening and studied some more. The next day, we met on the 3rd floor of ASA headquarters. We met 3 line pilots and an intern who gave us a quick company overview and showed us a short video. During that time, they did a detailed logbook review. That was followed by the drug test and a 30 question written test that was very easy (I would be surprised if I got more than 1 question wrong). After that, we had a 1 on 1 interview with a line pilot. They go over your application line by line, then ask some "standard" HR questions. I was then asked to briefly describe the landing gear system on my aircraft, and was then asked some jeppesen and part 121 questions. Every question I was asked, can be found somewhere on this gouge. However, I still did not know answers to some of the questions. Got a good news letter 2 weeks later.

Flyingbrick32114 · January 24th, 2006, 20:35

what are they looking for in the logbook review?

pilotkppsg · January 25th, 2006, 21:36

Well, actual IFR time, making sure your times add up (single plus multi equals total, etc....), IFR currency, types of a/c flown and quality of the time you've flown, checkrides and that's all I can think of right now.

manolo1492 · January 26th, 2006, 20:13

What was your TT??

pilotkppsg · January 27th, 2006, 18:34

Had about 1200 TT 200 multi., all CFI, never flew freight or anything like that; ATP written, FCC ticket, blah blah blah.

DE727UPS · January 27th, 2006, 19:58

Where did you do your flight training and CFIing at?

pilotkppsg · January 29th, 2006, 03:54

Well, did it a couple of places, 141 school (inst., comm., multi) for some, ATP (CFI's), a part 61 joint for private in north Mississippi. Instructed for the same 141 school I trained at for 2 years and 3 months, along w/ some Part 91 "charter work" for the school plus an EXTREMELY brief stint as a King Air 100 co-pilot for a real dirtbag 135 outfit, then got hired at ASA and XJT in the same one week period (very odd that they both came through at the same time like that). I had some students from KSDF who were obviously UPS pilot's kids, nice kids and usually got the job done right with very little extra effort.

IFly85 · January 29th, 2006, 17:01

Hey what flight school did you instruct at in North Ms? wouldn't happen to be at OLV would it?

kellwolf · January 29th, 2006, 18:18

Possibly the infamous Douglas Aviation. I almost went there being as it's about 5 minutes from my parents' house.

KLB · January 29th, 2006, 20:51

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Originally Posted by kellwolf

Possibly the infamous Douglas Aviation. I almost went there being as it's about 5 minutes from my parents' house.

One of my best friends is an instructor there. I think they are salaried plus they get payed by the hour on top of it. Good stuff. She's even keeping pretty busy. There is a little drama a buzz there though.

Another one of my friends is the daughter of the new owner of Air Venture out of Olive Branch also.

IFly85 · January 30th, 2006, 02:45

I did my private and instrument out at Douglas before I went to MTSU. Small world huh lol

January 24th, 2006, 14:31	#1
pilotkppsg Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 20	Express Jet Ok, paperwork is a must. You've really gotta be meticulous w/ the paperwork, they look at that pretty hard. Ok, that said if you currently use NOS charts, STOP and use Jepps because that is what you will be quizzed on. Don't take this lightly, Jepps is a huge part of this interview, know them and that'll be at least 25 % of the battle (paperwork is like 50%). Now, I know most of the guys in the morning group didn't get hired, my friends told me that they were weak on Jepps and aircraft systems. In my afternoon group I know about 9 out of 13 got the job, don't know about the others. Most of us were instructors, a 135er here and there and that was it. As for the ATP instructors who did the CRJ course, some of them didn't get it also, so the previous poster is full of ##### about that one. You've gotta have a humble attitude and drop the cocky CFI attitude if you've got one. They don't give a rat's dick if you can fly a Seminole up God's ass, they want to know if you're not a toolbox ######bag who they can both train and fly with on a month long trip. Alright, all that said, I was asked a few situation questions directly from the gouge, bunch of Jepp symbols, speeds, holding info, aircraft systems from the biggest multi i'd flown (I imagine they hear Seminole crap all day), then what I had done to prepare for the interview and had I read the gouge. I was then asked what I had done to prepare myself from flying pudknocker pistons to prepare myself to handle an ERJ and what would my biggest obstacle be in training. HR wasn't tough at all, decode a METAR and a TAF (lots of unusual symbols on this, so read the FAA publication and review all symbols in METAR/TAF format) then the ILS into IAH w/ no IAF. The IAF is the GS intercept and that is also the FAF. Asked any busted checkrides, accidents, incidents, speeding tickets. Told to chill outside and got the offer in like 5 minutes. Orientation in Nov and class in Dec.

January 24th, 2006, 14:32	#2
pilotkppsg Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 20	ASA (as promised) Showed up to F.S. on day 1 at 2 p.m. There were a total of 5 applicants. The sim instructor briefly went over our logbooks and gave us some instructions for the sim. Make sure to pay attention to every detail during the briefing. The sim was set up for Albany GA, and the profile is just like the one posted previously. During the ride I've made some mistakes, such as a full scale deflection on the glideslope, but always announced my mistake and just kept flying. I briefed the takeoff, the hold, and the approach to my partner, and tried to use as many standard call outs as possible. I believe they're not only looking at flying skills, but also at crew coordination. Called the phone number that evening, and made the cut. 1 person out of the five didn't make it. Went out to dinner that evening and studied some more. The next day, we met on the 3rd floor of ASA headquarters. We met 3 line pilots and an intern who gave us a quick company overview and showed us a short video. During that time, they did a detailed logbook review. That was followed by the drug test and a 30 question written test that was very easy (I would be surprised if I got more than 1 question wrong). After that, we had a 1 on 1 interview with a line pilot. They go over your application line by line, then ask some "standard" HR questions. I was then asked to briefly describe the landing gear system on my aircraft, and was then asked some jeppesen and part 121 questions. Every question I was asked, can be found somewhere on this gouge. However, I still did not know answers to some of the questions. Got a good news letter 2 weeks later.

January 29th, 2006, 18:18	#10
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 13,252	Possibly the infamous Douglas Aviation. I almost went there being as it's about 5 minutes from my parents' house. __________________ "I'm The Doctor, by the way. Run for your life!"

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January 24th, 2006, 20:35	#3
Flyingbrick32114 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 18	what are they looking for in the logbook review?

January 25th, 2006, 21:36	#4
pilotkppsg Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 20	Well, actual IFR time, making sure your times add up (single plus multi equals total, etc....), IFR currency, types of a/c flown and quality of the time you've flown, checkrides and that's all I can think of right now.

January 26th, 2006, 20:13	#5
manolo1492 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 64	What was your TT??

January 27th, 2006, 18:34	#6
pilotkppsg Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 20	Had about 1200 TT 200 multi., all CFI, never flew freight or anything like that; ATP written, FCC ticket, blah blah blah.

January 27th, 2006, 19:58	#7
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,481	Where did you do your flight training and CFIing at?

January 29th, 2006, 03:54	#8
pilotkppsg Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 20	Well, did it a couple of places, 141 school (inst., comm., multi) for some, ATP (CFI's), a part 61 joint for private in north Mississippi. Instructed for the same 141 school I trained at for 2 years and 3 months, along w/ some Part 91 "charter work" for the school plus an EXTREMELY brief stint as a King Air 100 co-pilot for a real dirtbag 135 outfit, then got hired at ASA and XJT in the same one week period (very odd that they both came through at the same time like that). I had some students from KSDF who were obviously UPS pilot's kids, nice kids and usually got the job done right with very little extra effort.

January 29th, 2006, 17:01	#9
IFly85 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Live in MEM but commute to RDU Posts: 462	Hey what flight school did you instruct at in North Ms? wouldn't happen to be at OLV would it?

January 30th, 2006, 02:45	#12
IFly85 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Live in MEM but commute to RDU Posts: 462	I did my private and instrument out at Douglas before I went to MTSU. Small world huh lol