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Coney · November 9th, 2005, 20:02

This is a great post, Bob! Congrats! This really motivated me to hustle up and knock out my CFI training. Thanks!

Captain_Bob · November 12th, 2005, 19:21

Coney...

"Git'r Done!"

Come on man... your only 2 years younger than I am... I know you can knock it out quick.

Good luck!

Where are you training at? Are you in DFW?

Bob

cfdoubleeye · March 5th, 2006, 03:18

Just to answer some of the questions:
I got hired with a few problems in my past like 1) failed instrument checkride (ADF approach, which drew smirks from the Chief Pilot), 2) ATP written at 76%, 3) 720TT / 125 ME

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You have got to tell them that you read the gouge - it is an essential part of the study process that I would expect from any pilot. Be truthful, and humble.

Captain_Bob · March 5th, 2006, 06:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfdoubleeye

I got hired with a few problems in my past like...

Hi cfdoubleeye,

Congrats to you as well... and... I really don't think XJT considers any of those three things as problems... "Discussion points" maybe... but not problems.

I thought you were going to say "trouble with the law" or something like that.

Welcome to JC!

Bob

Timbuff10 · March 5th, 2006, 20:43

Do they have ADFs in those planes? Also do they want to see that you already have taken the ATP written test? You only need it for upgrade right? I would think you would be able to score alot better after some experience as an FO for a while.

cfdoubleeye, congrats! Did you go through any particular program or get a reference to get hired at those times or did you just apply and come in "off the street"?

eta71 · March 6th, 2006, 02:16

What is the typical upgrade time from FO to CA?

Captain_Bob · March 6th, 2006, 12:08

Yes, they have ADF's, but we do not do NDB approaches.

No need to have the ATP written done prior to an interview unless you just want it have it on your resume to be "one notch" above someone else... and yes... you only need it for upgrade.

As far as getting a better score after being an FO for a while... I wouldn't know, but after reviewing the ATP questions, a lot of them are a bit antiquated... the overall test hasn't been updated in years.

Typical time to upgrade? I don't know if you are serious about this question or not... Since this type of question has been covered in depth on the boards here... The answer is... there is no "typical upgrade time". Guys who were hired just before 9/11 have pretty much had the chance to upgrade by now (4 years), and guys who came in at the beginning of '04 are now upgrading (2 years). However, there are still FO's who are choosing not to upgrade to take advantage of QOL until they can hold a decent line in the base of their choice... and when they decide to upgrade then this will push back others... I came onboard 11/04, and upgrade time is a huge question mark. I'm actually right about 400 numbers from upgrade which "by the numbers" would mean I'd upgrade in just over a year, however, when you factor in the guys who are senior to me and have chosen to stay as an FO until a later date, then that could easily affect that time frame. Other things that could affect it are... Company gains more contracts for flying, Company looses contracts for flying, Company furloghs, Company goes on a hiring spree, etc...

Short answer... There is no specific answer... when it happens, it happens.

Bob

eta71 · March 6th, 2006, 20:46

Fair enough, yes I was serious about my question. Thank you for your insight.

November 9th, 2005, 20:02	#26
Coney Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: 3T5 Posts: 256	This is a great post, Bob! Congrats! This really motivated me to hustle up and knock out my CFI training. Thanks! __________________ J. Cone My Blog http://www.jeromecone.blogspot.com

November 12th, 2005, 19:21	#27
Captain_Bob Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: DFW, based in ONT, wishing I was in Maine Posts: 3,852	Coney... "Git'r Done!" Come on man... your only 2 years younger than I am... I know you can knock it out quick. Good luck! Where are you training at? Are you in DFW? Bob __________________ My head is in the clouds and my heart is still in Maine... but my devotion and love belong to my wife and children. Pics!

March 5th, 2006, 03:18	#28
cfdoubleeye Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1	EXJ New Hire Just to answer some of the questions: I got hired with a few problems in my past like 1) failed instrument checkride (ADF approach, which drew smirks from the Chief Pilot), 2) ATP written at 76%, 3) 720TT / 125 ME . You have got to tell them that you read the gouge - it is an essential part of the study process that I would expect from any pilot. Be truthful, and humble.

March 5th, 2006, 20:43	#30
Timbuff10 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Coloradan in Orange County, CA Posts: 3,233	Do they have ADFs in those planes? Also do they want to see that you already have taken the ATP written test? You only need it for upgrade right? I would think you would be able to score alot better after some experience as an FO for a while. cfdoubleeye, congrats! Did you go through any particular program or get a reference to get hired at those times or did you just apply and come in "off the street"? __________________ My Photography My Airliners.net photos

March 6th, 2006, 12:08	#32
Captain_Bob Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: DFW, based in ONT, wishing I was in Maine Posts: 3,852	Yes, they have ADF's, but we do not do NDB approaches. No need to have the ATP written done prior to an interview unless you just want it have it on your resume to be "one notch" above someone else... and yes... you only need it for upgrade. As far as getting a better score after being an FO for a while... I wouldn't know, but after reviewing the ATP questions, a lot of them are a bit antiquated... the overall test hasn't been updated in years. Typical time to upgrade? I don't know if you are serious about this question or not... Since this type of question has been covered in depth on the boards here... The answer is... there is no "typical upgrade time". Guys who were hired just before 9/11 have pretty much had the chance to upgrade by now (4 years), and guys who came in at the beginning of '04 are now upgrading (2 years). However, there are still FO's who are choosing not to upgrade to take advantage of QOL until they can hold a decent line in the base of their choice... and when they decide to upgrade then this will push back others... I came onboard 11/04, and upgrade time is a huge question mark. I'm actually right about 400 numbers from upgrade which "by the numbers" would mean I'd upgrade in just over a year, however, when you factor in the guys who are senior to me and have chosen to stay as an FO until a later date, then that could easily affect that time frame. Other things that could affect it are... Company gains more contracts for flying, Company looses contracts for flying, Company furloghs, Company goes on a hiring spree, etc... Short answer... There is no specific answer... when it happens, it happens. Bob __________________ My head is in the clouds and my heart is still in Maine... but my devotion and love belong to my wife and children. Pics!

March 6th, 2006, 02:16	#31
eta71 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 513	What is the typical upgrade time from FO to CA?

March 6th, 2006, 20:46	#33
eta71 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 513	Fair enough, yes I was serious about my question. Thank you for your insight.

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