On Shutting Down Your Students

[moxiepilot]

Originally Posted by Dugie8

So CapnJim, we have established that is bad to yell at your students, but how bout putting your extremely good looking female student, who wears low kneck shirts ON EVERY FLIGHT, under the hood so you can get some hooter time??

i love hooter time

[CapnJim]

Oh yeah, moxie, your near death counter goes down by one every time you go inverted.

[n57flyguy]

Originally Posted by moxiepilot

i love hooter time

then she should realize she could make more money somewhere else.

I wouls like some hotter time before I quit though

[Chris_Ford]

Originally Posted by Dugie8

So CapnJim, we have established that is bad to yell at your students, but how bout putting your extremely good looking female student, who wears low kneck shirts ON EVERY FLIGHT, under the hood so you can get some hooter time??

That is the greatest idea I've ever heard.

Now where are you getting these hot students?

[CapnJim]

I've had a couple of hotties, and some good hooter time. Key points:
1. Must be summer. Summer clothes, you see.
2. Must see her coming first, because the other instructors will be on her like white on rice. Honestly, it's worse than 2:05am at Sherlock's.
3. Don't walk to the plane with the hood strapped to your head like a grey plastic pope hat. Or backwards like a grey plastic mullet. Only new CFI's think that's funny.

[ryanmickG]

Originally Posted by CapnJim

3. Don't walk to the plane with the hood strapped to your head like a grey plastic pope hat. Or backwards like a grey plastic mullet. Only new CFI's think that's funny.

You mean wearing a jiffy hood on yor head backwards and talking like darth vader on the mic is not funny!?!? Thats how I roll though!

[CapnJim]

*whew*
I though you were going to bring up the Samurai CFI incident.
Hajimemashte... Banzai!!!!!!

Dude- check your PMs. Didja get that... thing.. I sent ya?

[sargeanb]

Good points all around. I wrote this back when I was a student:

https://flighttraining.aopa.org/cfi_...m?article=4646

Now, after over 1000 hrs dual given, alot of that still rings true, but I've learned a LOT since then as well. I always think of us as being not only an instructor but a mentor. I always ask my students what they would like to do eventually, and tailor my instruction to that, or chat with them about job prospects when they have questions (that's where you all come in) I always try to make it fun, and am about the calmest guy you'll meet.

But, there are some things that get to me though, such as when my commercial multi student fails a check with these check pilot comments:

"IP terminated flight after multiple attempts at slow flight both clean and dirty both under hood and without hood. NO where near pts."

"over 6 attempts. All outside of pts 1 IP intervention to prevent exceeding limitation. Another attempt student exceeded both vfe and vlo before ip could intervein. SEE ABOVE"

It's very frustrating, both for the student and for myself. I am frustrated because this most basic of maneuvers cannot be performed correctly at the commercial multi level, after everything was dead on when he flew with me. This particular student gets very nervous on checks, and this may have something to do with it, but he has had enough experience that that shouldn't be an issue.

Also, it's when I see a general laziness or lack of effort on the student's part that I start to get kind of upset. I don't show this to the students, but I just don't understand it. For example, arriving late for every single activity, even after I discuss the importance of timeliness in this business, or not knowing basic procedures, which we had thoroughly reviewed many times, on the last dual flight before the checkride. I'll run through it with them, then calmly discuss why it is so important to know these things once we get on the ground. I'll always give the student the tools to succeed, teach them everything I know, motivate them to succeed, but I expect some self-motivation. Still I see these things sometimes.

The student is the customer, and it is their money (I read The Savvy Flight Instructor too )....that motivates me to teach as well as I possibly can, and get them ready to fly out there on their own, but it goes both ways. If they don't put in the effort, well, it is their money. Anyway, good post...lots to discuss there.

-Brock Sargeant
MEII