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DE727UPS · March 27th, 2006, 11:52

"Then due to the accidents mentioned above we stopped hiring gulfstreamers"

Blee, I was trying to find a reference on-line the other day about Pinnacle's decision to stop hiring Gulfstreamers. The best I could do was a flightinfo thread about the crash where it was mentioned as being either an insurance thing or an FAA thing. Nothing really concrete. You know any more about it?

I know you guys are back to hiring Gulfstream guys now, as does Colgan. Did the mins change at all? Why did they stop for a time?

bob loblaw · March 27th, 2006, 12:12

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Originally Posted by DE727UPS

"The reason he singled this guy out is by doing so, he can continue to fit in to a group who's rhetoric is short sighted"

Total BS. The kid's entitled to his opinion without you judging him.

"I see no difference in this whatsoever!"
"The only difference is the airplane I fly can't carry 18 more people."

Now I think you're just trying to start an argument (which is what you live for) rather than have an intelligent conversation. While you see no difference, the industry and standard practice see's a huge difference.

"They line up behind the majority just to fit in. It is a mob mantality which is really comical"

I find it interesting to see JCer's having opinions on things and post different things in different ways. It's like each person has a different on-line personality. If you think people here agree on things to fit in, you aren't paying attention. The few things we do agree on, you'll find general agreement with throughout the industry on.

Blah Blah, all you want to do here is argue and piss people off. It's fun and entertaining for you like we are the enemy or something. Grow up...

Instead of posting little tidbits of a post that others can't see, post the entire post. You already know I am being moderated, so posting partial posts of mine that won't see the light of day is truley absurd. I guess you will just use what fits to further your beliefs. Of course, this response probably won't see the light of day either since I am pointing out that what you're doing is wrong!

blee256 · March 27th, 2006, 12:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by DE727UPS

"Then due to the accidents mentioned above we stopped hiring gulfstreamers"

Blee, I was trying to find a reference on-line the other day about Pinnacle's decision to stop hiring Gulfstreamers. The best I could do was a flightinfo thread about the crash where it was mentioned as being either an insurance thing or an FAA thing. Nothing really concrete. You know any more about it?

I know you guys are back to hiring Gulfstream guys now, as does Colgan. Did the mins change at all? Why did they stop for a time?

DE727, you are correct, my mistake. I should have written "after" the accident instead of syaing "due to" I never did hear anything official about why we stopped hiring gulfstreamers.

From what I understand, they did start hiring streamers again. BUt it doesnt seem like its in the same numbers as they used to. Kellwolf might know since he is in class here.

DE727UPS · March 27th, 2006, 13:23

"Instead of posting little tidbits of a post that others can't see, post the entire post"

Now you're telling me how to post? Up yours....

"I guess you will just use what fits to further your beliefs. Of course, this response probably won't see the light of day either since I am pointing out that what you're doing is wrong!"

You think I'm wrong and I think you just like to stir up crap. We are both entitled to our opinions. You're getting moderated but it's not because of this thread. I don't follow you around to see what you post but you must have crossed Doug's line on how to behave at this site. I've deleted your stuff before when you got out of control but you don't see me doing that now.

I think you're a martyr in your own mind...

SteveC · March 27th, 2006, 13:58

Don, it is pretty confusing when you quote Vic's posts that are not available for public viewing. I went back through the entire thread trying to find the post that you were quoting, and finally gave up. I thought I was missing something.

Cherokee_Cruiser · March 27th, 2006, 14:53

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Originally Posted by SteveC

Don, it is pretty confusing when you quote Vic's posts that are not available for public viewing. I went back through the entire thread trying to find the post that you were quoting, and finally gave up. I thought I was missing something.

Skillet · March 27th, 2006, 15:04

When I was working with SWA in Orlando I'd run into Gulfstream pilot's quite abit, either on the employee bus or when they were jumpseating. I'd try to start up a conversation about the airline/job, you know the usual stuff and they would always be pretty short. I always thought it to be kind of funny. Pilots from other carriers like chatauqua (spelling??), comair and even mesa would spend time talking about their flying job. I got the impression that Gulfstream guys were almost embarrassed to be there, like they found out too late. If they would have only read this forum........(just my impression)

Kristie · March 27th, 2006, 15:10

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Originally Posted by SteveC

Don, it is pretty confusing when you quote Vic's posts that are not available for public viewing. I went back through the entire thread trying to find the post that you were quoting, and finally gave up. I thought I was missing something.

Don's still learning the moderator ropes guys!!

I caught it to and brought it to his attention.

BCTAv8r · March 27th, 2006, 15:11

If they'd only admit it and warn other potential Gulfstreamers that it's not worth it.

DE727UPS · March 27th, 2006, 16:17

"Don, it is pretty confusing when you quote Vic's posts that are not available for public viewing."

I thought he was saying he doesn't like my method of quoting. I didn't realize you all couldn't see his posts.

About all I've done here as a mod is delete posts. That's a lot of fun but doing to Vic (didn't know that was his name, do you know his last name, too?) will only serve to fullfill his martyr complex, in this case. I only delete posts when people are cussin' at each other.

DE727UPS · March 27th, 2006, 16:31

"I got the impression that Gulfstream guys were almost embarrassed to be there"

Not the ones I've talked to over at flightinfo. They are foaming at the mouth the second you question the place. I mean, all I need to hear is "I just want to succeed and any method I use is okay". You can't argue with that.

Or, in an intelligent, non-confrontative manner, get them to agree to disagree, which might have happened once, a long time ago.

I think, once they hit the real world, they realize why Gulfstream isn't too popular with professional pilots. Whether they see it as a mistake is another thing. The two streamers that frequent this site have both said it was a poor choice and wouldn't do it again. That says something...

By the way, Skillet rocks...

Adam2006 · March 27th, 2006, 16:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by DE727UPS

"Bigey, why would you single out this person and post them on a anti-gulfstream site????"

First of all, there are no pro-Gulfstream websites other than www.gulfstreamacademy.com

You'll find the same level of "attitude" about Gulfstream at all the sites. Look around if you don't believe me.

Second of all, I think a new Gulfstream thread is great every now and then. Newbies get to see something fresh to base their decisions on and I think that's a good thing.

I agree with the helping people out, and posting the truth on these schools so people can make more informed decisions. But, this can be done WITHOUT pointing the finger at an individual, and posting a link to him, possibly subjecting him to attack.

SteveC · March 27th, 2006, 16:34

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Originally Posted by DE727UPS

... Vic (didn't know that was his name, do you know his last name, too?)...

Yes.

(edit to add: I don't post real names publicly without permission. Key word "publicly".)

EatSleepFly · March 27th, 2006, 16:37

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Originally Posted by DE727UPS

(didn't know that was his name, do you know his last name, too?)

He has posted it, either here or on flightinfo- can't remember which. I'm sure I'm not the only one who made a mental note of it.

You would think someone who acts like such a fool wouldn't publicly give out their name, employer/airport, and drive around a truck with their full name , address, and phone number plastered to the back of it.

DE727UPS · March 27th, 2006, 16:37

"Yes"

Well, with networking being what it is, and all, it would probably be a good idea if you don't mention it.

DE727UPS · March 27th, 2006, 16:44

"But, this can be done WITHOUT pointing the finger at an individual, and posting a link to him, possibly subjecting him to attack"

The guy has a myspace account. Don't you think he likes people to visit?

I don't know much about myspace. Doesn't he have to approve people on his friends list? Anyhow, if he believes in what he's doing, I'm sure he likes the publicity. Why wouldn't he?

B767Driver · March 27th, 2006, 17:01

Professionals don't grandstand.

Individuals that bought a job to satisfy a low level of self-esteem...such as this...do grandstand...waving a flag in the air showing everyone his status.

A professional exudes quiet confidence...humble but capable...carries the big stick softly.

Be John Wayne...not MC Hammer.

BCTAv8r · March 27th, 2006, 17:42

Would a person get sued for defaming and etc if a website imforming people out there about GIA was put up. That way when someone does a search for it on Google, the top link or the one right below it on the search results could be that webpage explaining why it is bad to PFT.

Kristie · March 27th, 2006, 17:45

OH, i just got a new signature!

AFdude411 · March 27th, 2006, 20:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by B767Driver

Professionals don't grandstand.

Individuals that bought a job to satisfy a low level of self-esteem...such as this...do grandstand...waving a flag in the air showing everyone his status.

A professional exudes quiet confidence...humble but capable...carries the big stick softly.

Be John Wayne...not MC Hammer.

Couldnt have said it better myself!

Bigey · March 27th, 2006, 20:27

Ladies and Gentlemen, yes it is me, the one who tries to fit in on this online board, Jetcareers, but bagging on Gulfstream...

Wrong....

When i heard about it, it struck me confused.

Would you pay walmart to work for them, so you could have experience to move onto k-mart? No? Thought so...

This is more directed toward bob loblaw if he was the one that said im trying to fit in...

Bro, if you read my posts or actually pay attention to me, you see i sometimes draw controversy and such.

So, before you start saying stuff about me, really know what i am about..

bob loblaw · March 27th, 2006, 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam2006

I agree with the helping people out, and posting the truth on these schools so people can make more informed decisions. But, this can be done WITHOUT pointing the finger at an individual, and posting a link to him, possibly subjecting him to attack.

You see Adam2006, it is much easier to ride a bandwagon instead of fostering your own beliefs. It is easy to do this to someone he doesn't know when opinions are popular. I feel it was a cheap shot, and easy points on this board.

bob loblaw · March 27th, 2006, 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by DE727UPS

"Instead of posting little tidbits of a post that others can't see, post the entire post"

Now you're telling me how to post? Up yours....

"I guess you will just use what fits to further your beliefs. Of course, this response probably won't see the light of day either since I am pointing out that what you're doing is wrong!"

You think I'm wrong and I think you just like to stir up crap. We are both entitled to our opinions. You're getting moderated but it's not because of this thread. I don't follow you around to see what you post but you must have crossed Doug's line on how to behave at this site. I've deleted your stuff before when you got out of control but you don't see me doing that now.

I think you're a martyr in your own mind...

By out of control do you mean giving back to the clique what they give me. You also make me sick. I have had run-ins with you as well. Here is a news flash for you, quoting a thread that is basically invisible is a gutless thing to do. You think I am a martyr in my own mind? WOW, not only can you fly a plane, you are a psychologist as well. UPS must be proud. I would reach back and tell you what I really think of you, but I am not going to waste my time on you.

DE727UPS · March 27th, 2006, 22:59

First of all, in this thread, nobody started anything with you. It was all you, man, in your glorious self.

"Here is a news flash for you, quoting a thread that is basically invisible is a gutless thing to do"

Like I said before, I didn't realize nobody could see that post and secondly, I thought you were just saying you didn't like my style of quoting. Which I'm not going to change, by the way, cause I LIKE it that way. Beyond that, I have no idea what you're talking about. You'll be happy to note, however, that I have now figured out how to unmoderate your posts.

"I would reach back and tell you what I really think of you, but I am not going to waste my time on you."

Please, don't hold back, the more you type the dumber you look. Knock yourself out.

Gonzo · March 27th, 2006, 23:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob loblaw

You see Adam2006, it is much easier to ride a bandwagon instead of fostering your own beliefs. It is easy to do this to someone he doesn't know when opinions are popular. I feel it was a cheap shot, and easy points on this board.

It's not a question of what's popular or not, it's a question of right or wrong. Gulfstream Academy is wrong on so many levels. But using your logic make sure you tell your kids to form their own opinions about drugs and not to listen to what everyone says.

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March 27th, 2006, 11:52	#76
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,462	"Then due to the accidents mentioned above we stopped hiring gulfstreamers" Blee, I was trying to find a reference on-line the other day about Pinnacle's decision to stop hiring Gulfstreamers. The best I could do was a flightinfo thread about the crash where it was mentioned as being either an insurance thing or an FAA thing. Nothing really concrete. You know any more about it? I know you guys are back to hiring Gulfstream guys now, as does Colgan. Did the mins change at all? Why did they stop for a time?

March 27th, 2006, 13:23	#79
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,462	"Instead of posting little tidbits of a post that others can't see, post the entire post" Now you're telling me how to post? Up yours.... "I guess you will just use what fits to further your beliefs. Of course, this response probably won't see the light of day either since I am pointing out that what you're doing is wrong!" You think I'm wrong and I think you just like to stir up crap. We are both entitled to our opinions. You're getting moderated but it's not because of this thread. I don't follow you around to see what you post but you must have crossed Doug's line on how to behave at this site. I've deleted your stuff before when you got out of control but you don't see me doing that now. I think you're a martyr in your own mind...

March 27th, 2006, 15:04	#82
Skillet Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Orlando Posts: 80	When I was working with SWA in Orlando I'd run into Gulfstream pilot's quite abit, either on the employee bus or when they were jumpseating. I'd try to start up a conversation about the airline/job, you know the usual stuff and they would always be pretty short. I always thought it to be kind of funny. Pilots from other carriers like chatauqua (spelling??), comair and even mesa would spend time talking about their flying job. I got the impression that Gulfstream guys were almost embarrassed to be there, like they found out too late. If they would have only read this forum........(just my impression)

March 27th, 2006, 15:11	#84
BCTAv8r Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boca Raton Posts: 6,011	If they'd only admit it and warn other potential Gulfstreamers that it's not worth it.

March 27th, 2006, 16:17	#85
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,462	"Don, it is pretty confusing when you quote Vic's posts that are not available for public viewing." I thought he was saying he doesn't like my method of quoting. I didn't realize you all couldn't see his posts. About all I've done here as a mod is delete posts. That's a lot of fun but doing to Vic (didn't know that was his name, do you know his last name, too?) will only serve to fullfill his martyr complex, in this case. I only delete posts when people are cussin' at each other.

March 27th, 2006, 16:31	#86
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,462	"I got the impression that Gulfstream guys were almost embarrassed to be there" Not the ones I've talked to over at flightinfo. They are foaming at the mouth the second you question the place. I mean, all I need to hear is "I just want to succeed and any method I use is okay". You can't argue with that. Or, in an intelligent, non-confrontative manner, get them to agree to disagree, which might have happened once, a long time ago. I think, once they hit the real world, they realize why Gulfstream isn't too popular with professional pilots. Whether they see it as a mistake is another thing. The two streamers that frequent this site have both said it was a poor choice and wouldn't do it again. That says something... By the way, Skillet rocks...

March 27th, 2006, 16:37	#90
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,462	"Yes" Well, with networking being what it is, and all, it would probably be a good idea if you don't mention it.

March 27th, 2006, 16:44	#91
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,462	"But, this can be done WITHOUT pointing the finger at an individual, and posting a link to him, possibly subjecting him to attack" The guy has a myspace account. Don't you think he likes people to visit? I don't know much about myspace. Doesn't he have to approve people on his friends list? Anyhow, if he believes in what he's doing, I'm sure he likes the publicity. Why wouldn't he?

March 27th, 2006, 17:01	#92
B767Driver Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,830	Professionals don't grandstand. Individuals that bought a job to satisfy a low level of self-esteem...such as this...do grandstand...waving a flag in the air showing everyone his status. A professional exudes quiet confidence...humble but capable...carries the big stick softly. Be John Wayne...not MC Hammer.

March 27th, 2006, 17:42	#93
BCTAv8r Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boca Raton Posts: 6,011	Would a person get sued for defaming and etc if a website imforming people out there about GIA was put up. That way when someone does a search for it on Google, the top link or the one right below it on the search results could be that webpage explaining why it is bad to PFT.

March 27th, 2006, 22:59	#99
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,462	First of all, in this thread, nobody started anything with you. It was all you, man, in your glorious self. "Here is a news flash for you, quoting a thread that is basically invisible is a gutless thing to do" Like I said before, I didn't realize nobody could see that post and secondly, I thought you were just saying you didn't like my style of quoting. Which I'm not going to change, by the way, cause I LIKE it that way. Beyond that, I have no idea what you're talking about. You'll be happy to note, however, that I have now figured out how to unmoderate your posts. "I would reach back and tell you what I really think of you, but I am not going to waste my time on you." Please, don't hold back, the more you type the dumber you look. Knock yourself out.