Found a Proud Gulfstreamer Myspace - Page 2

Cherokee_Cruiser · March 25th, 2006, 16:34

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Originally Posted by Bigey

Got the reply woo-hoo!

That is the only way the airline get first officers is through that program. Technically i am not paying for my job because the hours i pay for i am not even an employee of the airline. I have no benifits or nothin right now. Once the 250hrs is over with then i become an employee. So really i didnt pay for the job. I only paid for the training in that a/c. After the 250 i still have to go through an interview to see if the company even likes me. Plus i get to the majors MUCH faster then anyone else with my time. While u are sitting around instructing to get 1000 and 1 before any regional airline will look at u. Then when u get that regional job ur upgrade is gonna be a minimum of 3yrs. Me on the other hand upgrade right at 1500TT and start building turbine PIC while u are sitting on ur ass at a regional getting SIC. I get PIC time for another 2 years then get to go right into the majors. Now i am sitting at a mojor and u will still be sitting at the regional not even upgraded yet. Also i am gaining turbine multi and 121 experience before u even think about airlines. Oh yah then i will have my seniority number at a major before u will. Now u get into the majors and they layoff people. Well now u are laidoff and i am still with the company because i got there quicker. Its all ******** about people saying that airlines dont like our guys because we get hired by regionals and majors every month. Say i dont get hired after my 250 well regionals take us after that. Pinnacle has taken 70 of our F/O's with just 500TT this year alone. Express Jet has hired our F/O's this year already. American Eagle has Hired F/O's. Captains have gone too Continental, AirTran and Southwest this year already. To kinda answer ur last question. Gulfstream is not a career airline. The airlines purpose is for people to time build and get enough hours for the majors then get the **** out so the next guy can go through. The only way the airline gets F/O's is through the program. They fly their time upgrade to captain get a couple thousand PIC then go right into a major. If u do all ur training 141 like comair academy its pretty much the exact same thing. Once u have paid ur 50K or wut ever to go through the program and instruct for them well U get a job at a regional. If u say my program has no instruction involved well that is technically wrong too because when we are captains most of our F/O's have very little time and we have to instruct them as well and make sure they fly the airplane in the safest possible manner. That is my 2 cents so take it or leave it. If u call that selling myself short. I still work my ass off everyday so i can get into an airline. How is flying average of 90hrs a month not hard work huh? How is building my TT up just like everyone else for the same exact goal not hard work huh? I am just going a different and quicker route.

HOLY ##### !

Bigey · March 25th, 2006, 16:42

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Originally Posted by Cherokee_Cruiser

HOLY ##### !

Yeap, so hard to respond to it.

BCTAv8r · March 25th, 2006, 16:56

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when we are captains most of our F/O's have very little time and we have to instruct them as well and make sure they fly the airplane in the safest possible manner.

Doug Taylor · March 25th, 2006, 17:02

Whatever helps him sleep at night.

wheelsup · March 25th, 2006, 17:04

Wut?

Has anyone tried sending in emails to news/media companies to get their attention about this 'program'? The media is extremely interested in aviation related safety factors...

On second that, it would be a bunch of free advertising and probably increase their "enrollment"

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Maximillian_Jenius · March 25th, 2006, 17:07

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Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Whatever helps him sleep at night.

Maybe he went to PFT Gulfstream grammer school to because that was just horrible!

Cherokee_Cruiser · March 25th, 2006, 17:09

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Originally Posted by wheelsup

Wut?

Has anyone tried sending in emails to news/media companies to get their attention about this 'program'? The media is extremely interested in aviation related safety factors...

On second that, it would be a bunch of free advertising and probably increase their "enrollment"

!

Nope, no one in the news/media will really care.

As long as no passengers have been killed (safety record is perfect), the media won't care.

And as far as passengers: as long as the fare is rock bottom $39 one way between Orlando and Miami, passengers won't care.

caliginousface · March 25th, 2006, 17:13

who knows, maybe this WILL be the only way in the years to come.

tiiiime, why you punish meee

IndianaPilot · March 25th, 2006, 17:14

maybe not the media as in....the local news. but somethin more like 60 minutes, or one of them type shows maybe.....get barbara walters on it !

meritflyer · March 25th, 2006, 17:22

Have you read all of the 'letters of thanks' on the Gulfstream site? Why would a bunch of major airline Capts send their kids there?

Beyond me..

UND_Flyer · March 25th, 2006, 17:44

1. That guy is an idiot!
2. His MySpace site sucks!!
3. I vomited after reading his response.
4. I hope I never run into this guy...

Gonzo · March 25th, 2006, 17:45

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Originally Posted by meritflyer

Have you read all of the 'letters of thanks' on the Gulfstream site? Why would a bunch of major airline Capts send their kids there?

Beyond me..

Checked the ALPA master SCAB list that should answer all your questions.

Doug Taylor · March 25th, 2006, 17:49

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

Checked the ALPA master SCAB list that should answer all your questions.

Correct answer.

sopdan · March 25th, 2006, 18:19

Well, he obviously doesn't understand (or refuses to acknowledge) what exactly it means for him to be paying to sit in that seat. F 'em, hope I never meet him down the road.

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Income:$30,000 to $45,000

hmmm... maybe that comes from being "taxi and runup certified on both a/c"... or he got 'income' confused with 'debt'

Flysher · March 25th, 2006, 19:12

holy ##### what a tool. sounds like canned responses/reasons given to him by his company cause they know they're gonna take #####.

E_Dawg · March 25th, 2006, 19:25

All I heard was blah blah blah, blah blah blah.

Timbuff10 · March 25th, 2006, 23:29

Do they do flight instruction/121 ops in their brasilias too? I thought they just had b1900s

BCTAv8r · March 25th, 2006, 23:48

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Originally Posted by Timbuff10

Do they do flight instruction/121 ops in their brasilias too? I thought they just had b1900s

According to their website:

News

Recently, Gulfstream has acquired Embraer Brasilia aircraft. These are flying into some of our popular destinations, including Freeport, Nassau, and Orlando.

Timbuff10 · March 26th, 2006, 00:17

Interesting...

Now here is a question. Do Gulfstreamer FOs log Dual received for their flights? Do captains there log Dual given?

What about their mechanincs? Do they pay to turn wrenches there?

Gotta have FAs on those Brasildos... Are they PFTers too?

SmitteyB · March 26th, 2006, 01:15

Bigey, I used to think you just hung around JC too much, but what you did was........AWESOME.

Earned my respect. Now, go study.

Doug Taylor · March 26th, 2006, 01:20

Bigey's my dawg, yo.

Screaming_Emu · March 26th, 2006, 01:45

I wonder if that was the same tool I ran accross a while back. Was reading one of those "what do you fly" threads on one of the aviation groups. Some tool said "I am a first officer for Gulfstream International Airines" so I posted "so, how'd buying a job work out for you?....Scab" He never responded (that I saw) but I did get a PM from some dude who was like "heh, exactly what I was thinkin, just didn't type it."

Doug Taylor · March 26th, 2006, 01:57

You CAN'T be an FO for Gulfstream... You're the 20th passenger.

Timbuff10 · March 26th, 2006, 02:40

Calling them scabs isn't right though, even if their Dad's are... I saw somewhere recently where they should be called Warts? Sounds good huh?

Actually, "Gulfstreamer" is pretty derogatory in its own right... At least in my view.

Anyone got another name to refer to this group of PFT pilots?

Doug Taylor · March 26th, 2006, 02:46

Good question. We certainly have the traffic to make a 'precedent' on what to refer to them as.

March 25th, 2006, 17:02	#29
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 39,830 Blog Entries: 1	Whatever helps him sleep at night. __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

March 25th, 2006, 17:13	#33
caliginousface Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: san jose, ca Posts: 2,025	who knows, maybe this WILL be the only way in the years to come. tiiiime, why you punish meee __________________

March 25th, 2006, 17:22	#35
meritflyer Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Winchestertonfieldville Posts: 6,247	Have you read all of the 'letters of thanks' on the Gulfstream site? Why would a bunch of major airline Capts send their kids there? Beyond me.. __________________ The simplest answer tends to be correct.

March 25th, 2006, 17:44	#36
UND_Flyer Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CVG Posts: 990	1. That guy is an idiot! 2. His MySpace site sucks!! 3. I vomited after reading his response. 4. I hope I never run into this guy... __________________ "A mile of highway will take you a mile. A mile of runway will take you anywhere!"

March 25th, 2006, 19:25	#41
E_Dawg Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: chicago Posts: 4,147	All I heard was blah blah blah, blah blah blah. __________________ Yeah, I just stare at my desk; but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch, too. I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work.

March 25th, 2006, 17:04	#30
wheelsup Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: _ Posts: 5,182	Wut? Has anyone tried sending in emails to news/media companies to get their attention about this 'program'? The media is extremely interested in aviation related safety factors... On second that, it would be a bunch of free advertising and probably increase their "enrollment" !

March 25th, 2006, 17:14	#34
IndianaPilot Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 423	maybe not the media as in....the local news. but somethin more like 60 minutes, or one of them type shows maybe.....get barbara walters on it !

March 25th, 2006, 19:12	#40
Flysher Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: LCK Posts: 444	holy ##### what a tool. sounds like canned responses/reasons given to him by his company cause they know they're gonna take #####.

March 25th, 2006, 23:29	#42
Timbuff10 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Coloradan in Orange County, CA Posts: 3,233	Do they do flight instruction/121 ops in their brasilias too? I thought they just had b1900s __________________ My Photography My Airliners.net photos

March 26th, 2006, 00:17	#44
Timbuff10 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Coloradan in Orange County, CA Posts: 3,233	Interesting... Now here is a question. Do Gulfstreamer FOs log Dual received for their flights? Do captains there log Dual given? What about their mechanincs? Do they pay to turn wrenches there? Gotta have FAs on those Brasildos... Are they PFTers too? __________________ My Photography My Airliners.net photos

March 26th, 2006, 01:15	#45
SmitteyB Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ithaca, NY Posts: 1,942	Bigey, I used to think you just hung around JC too much, but what you did was........AWESOME. Earned my respect. Now, go study. __________________ Colgan SAAB FO "Colgan Air...Pissing off the world 34 people at a time"

March 26th, 2006, 01:20	#46
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 39,830 Blog Entries: 1	Bigey's my dawg, yo. __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

March 26th, 2006, 01:45	#47
Screaming_Emu Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 3,094	I wonder if that was the same tool I ran accross a while back. Was reading one of those "what do you fly" threads on one of the aviation groups. Some tool said "I am a first officer for Gulfstream International Airines" so I posted "so, how'd buying a job work out for you?....Scab" He never responded (that I saw) but I did get a PM from some dude who was like "heh, exactly what I was thinkin, just didn't type it." __________________ Commercial Pilot - ASEL, AMEL, Instrument CFI/II 850TT CRJ-700 FO at Southernjets Connection Former flight instructor out of KBWI and W29 Loves Dutch chicks "jtrain609: I wish I had a pair"

March 26th, 2006, 01:57	#48
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 39,830 Blog Entries: 1	You CAN'T be an FO for Gulfstream... You're the 20th passenger. __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

March 26th, 2006, 02:40	#49
Timbuff10 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Coloradan in Orange County, CA Posts: 3,233	Calling them scabs isn't right though, even if their Dad's are... I saw somewhere recently where they should be called Warts? Sounds good huh? Actually, "Gulfstreamer" is pretty derogatory in its own right... At least in my view. Anyone got another name to refer to this group of PFT pilots? __________________ My Photography My Airliners.net photos

March 26th, 2006, 02:46	#50
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 39,830 Blog Entries: 1	Good question. We certainly have the traffic to make a 'precedent' on what to refer to them as. __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

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